June 21Jun 21 It's a (potentially) fantastic upgrade over a G2, if you can afford one. I liken it to upgrading from a '70s TV to a high end 2026 4K TV. The day has finally come that crisp high def 2D panel visuals can be had in VR. A jaw dropping improvement compared to my G2, but for those with the latest crop of OLED HMDs this is not news. Coupled to my 5090, I run full Ultra at its native resolution, DLAA, and at sim locked 36 fps (half of its native 72 htz). It's as smooth and solid as my G2 at 45 fps. MSFS looks fantastic. All the subtle texture details of the cockpit pop out at you, as does all details of what's outside the aircraft (now full ultra is finally revealing all it glory to me). Dang, no going back to the G2! Its BIG downside is its facial interface which is uncomfortable, leaks light unnecessarily, and makes for an effectively TINY FOV. I tried using it without the interface installed: when I put my eyes up close to its lenses, it opened the FOV up to G2 size while still looking just as sharp, focused and stunningly amazing as it was with the interface installed. I'm definitely going to replace that junk, hopefully soon with the replacement that Pimax has promised to ship, but in any event at least there are 3rd party options available.There is zero screen door effect. If you look really closely you can see pixel grain but its definitely less than the G2's grain. I had to fine tune the IPD adjustment to dial in maximum sharpness, for it's lenses seem quite sensitive to being perfectly aligned with your eyes. The controllers and their tracking seem fine, at least as good as the G2's. The audio is slightly less detailed than the G2, but still quite good for my needs. Considering its BSB 2e rival, cost wise (unless you already own VR base stations and controllers) getting a DA SE is a no brainer but crud, you have to deal with that FUBAR facial interface . Edited June 21Jun 21 by TheFamilyMan CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -20| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W | OS: Win 11 Pro 64Pimax Dream Air SE VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
June 21Jun 21 I asked chatgpt to compare the Pimax Dream Air SE to my Pimax Crystal Light:Pixel count comparisonDream Air SE: 6.55 million pixels per eyeCrystal Light: 8.29 million pixels per eyeSo the Crystal Light has about 26% more pixels per eye than the Dream Air SE.Why many people still find the Dream Air SE attractiveThe Dream Air SE uses Micro-OLED panels, which provide:much deeper blacks,higher perceived contrast,a dramatically smaller and lighter headset.The Crystal Light counters with:higher native resolution,glass aspheric lenses,potentially more detail in flight sims and racing sims when driven by a powerful GPU.For sim racing / flight simulationIf your priority is maximum detail and instrument readability, the Crystal Light still has the resolution advantage. If your priority is comfort, weight, and OLED image quality, the Dream Air SE is compelling despite the lower resolution.....................then I asked for the different lenses of both headsets:Dream Air SE lensesPimax describes the Dream Air SE as using ConcaveView pancake lenses optimized for Micro-OLED displays, with a large sweet spot and edge-to-edge clarity. The company specifically highlights wide stereo overlap and reduced glare compared with earlier designs.The advantage of pancake optics is that they allow the headset to be incredibly small and light (under 140 g headset-only).The downside is the same trade-off seen in most pancake headsets (Quest 3, Beyond, etc.): some level of internal reflections and glare, especially against bright objects on dark backgrounds. Community discussions around the Dream Air series suggest this remains a concern, although final production impressions are still limited.Crystal Light lensesThe Crystal Light inherits the Crystal family's glass aspheric lenses, which are one of its strongest features. Pimax has repeatedly emphasized these lenses for their clarity and low distortion.Compared with pancake lenses, glass aspherics generally provide:less glare and fewer reflections,higher light transmission,a very crisp central image,better perceived contrast in bright scenes.The trade-off is size and weight: the optical stack is much bulkier than a pancake design.Which is likely better?For flight simulation and sim racing, I'd still give the optical edge to the Crystal Light today because:It has higher native resolution (2880×2880 vs. 2560×2560 per eye).Glass aspheric lenses have an excellent reputation for cockpit readability.They avoid much of the glare associated with pancake optics.For comfort, portability, and long VR sessions, the Dream Air SE is in a different class. At under 140 g, it is dramatically lighter than the Crystal Light while still offering modern pancake optics and Micro-OLED image quality.Here’s how the **Pimax Dream Air SE vs Pimax Crystal Light lenses behave specifically in flight and racing sims like MSFS, DCS, X-Plane, and iRacing—focused on what you actually notice in the cockpit.Cockpit readability (gauges, MFDs, HUD text)Crystal Light (glass aspheric)Sharper “true center” clarity for small textVery stable focus when looking straight at instrumentsSlight falloff toward edges, but cockpit centers stay extremely crispBetter for reading distant instruments in MSFS / DCSDream Air SE (pancake)More uniform sharpness across the viewSlightly softer micro-detail compared to Crystal Light due to lower resolution + OLED subpixel structureStill very readable, but fine text (tiny MFD labels, distant runway signs) won’t be as crisp👉 Winner for pure instrument clarity: Crystal Light👁️ Sweet spot (where the image is sharp)Crystal LightLarger “perfect center zone”Edge clarity depends more on eye alignmentYou may naturally “look with your head” more in simsDream Air SEPancake lenses give a more even clarity across the lensLess need to hunt for the perfect eye positionMore “glasses-like” viewing experience👉 Winner for ease of use: Dream Air SE🔭 Stereo overlap (3D depth feeling in cockpits)Crystal LightStrong depth perception in cockpit layoutsSlightly more pronounced “screen window” effect in high contrast scenesDream Air SEPancake optics + OLED give a more seamless “floating world” feelingSlightly more natural edge blending👉 Winner for immersion feel: slight edge Dream Air SE🌞 Glare, reflections, and night flyingCrystal LightVery low glare (big advantage of glass aspheric lenses)Excellent for:night approachesdark cockpits (DCS aircraft, space sims)Dream Air SEPancake lenses introduce:mild internal reflections (“god rays”-like artifacts in some conditions)more noticeable in high-contrast HUD + dark sky scenes👉 Winner for clean optics: Crystal Light✈️ Simulator-specific behaviorMSFS (civil aviation, long-distance flying)Crystal Light: better runway signs, distant detailDream Air SE: more comfortable for long sessions Edited June 21Jun 21 by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
June 21Jun 21 Author I would have got a Crystal Light a long while back, but its weight and massive size is a no go with my weak neck. My G2 was barely acceptable...usually. CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -20| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W | OS: Win 11 Pro 64Pimax Dream Air SE VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
June 21Jun 21 1 hour ago, TheFamilyMan said:I would have got a Crystal Light a long while back, butand I would have got a DreamAir by now, if it wasn't for the poor build quality and comfort troubles, as you mentioned already. so the wait goes on for me for the next "perfect" VR upgrade. a real shame Pimax can't get their act together. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
Tuesday at 05:01 AM5 days Author The SE is such a quandary for me. If they only had spent some quality time developing a really good facial interface, they have a runaway smash hit product flying off the shelves IMO. Not cheap by any means, but dang that super light weight coupled with such excellent visuals, I can't bring myself to return it. Did a ripping WWI dogfight in Flying Circus that would have wrecked my neck in my G2 within 30 seconds...now it's nary any concern with the SE. Build quality...we'll see...keep you posted. Edited Tuesday at 05:02 AM5 days by TheFamilyMan CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -20| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W | OS: Win 11 Pro 64Pimax Dream Air SE VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
Tuesday at 05:59 PM4 days I need an entirely new system to even consider this or the Crystal.At this point it's easily 8k USD lol. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
Tuesday at 06:48 PM4 days Author 39 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:I need an entirely new system to even consider this or the Crystal.At this point it's easily 8k USD lol.I imagine all the companies making these $$$-$$$$ VR HMDs know this and are privately freaking out about it.I simply got lucky timing wise when I built my dream FS rig a year ago. It's really weird to think my $2700 5090 was a good deal 🤪. CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -20| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W | OS: Win 11 Pro 64Pimax Dream Air SE VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
Tuesday at 07:39 PM4 days 50 minutes ago, TheFamilyMan said:I imagine all the companies making these $$$-$$$$ VR HMDs know this and are privately freaking out about it.I simply got lucky timing wise when I built my dream FS rig a year ago. It's really weird to think my $2700 5090 was a good deal 🤪.I guess we are now brainwashed to think a consumer GPU should be 2700 hehe. Aren't they like 4000 now? One could buy a used car for that price. Well... a junker haha! | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
Tuesday at 08:44 PM4 days Author 54 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:I guess we are now brainwashed to think a consumer GPU should be 2700 hehe.I remember years ago when I first paid over 400 for a gpu that I'd lost my mind...little did I know where that would lead me. CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -20| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W | OS: Win 11 Pro 64Pimax Dream Air SE VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
Tuesday at 09:16 PM4 days 31 minutes ago, TheFamilyMan said:I remember years ago when I first paid over 400 for a gpu that I'd lost my mind...little did I know where that would lead me.Yeah I should just commit to the 5090 and a 9800x3d or something. The money isn't really the issue... it's my wife beating me after I do it LOL.Kidding. She'd be like "whatever fly your fake planes" HAHA | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
Wednesday at 02:34 AM4 days 5 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said:ittle did I know where that would lead me.to 400 fps and 50-80 fps in VR Edited Wednesday at 02:35 AM4 days by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
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