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Must say I am no expert at this, so would appreciate people avoiding telling me that I am being stupid. As if anyone would be so unkind!! :-)I've always found that having to go back to panel view from spot view when I need to make aquick alteration to the Autopilot a bit of a pain - and FS9 doesn't like swapping backwards and forwards in this way either. So I thought I would add a small autopilot panel which would appear at the top of the screen in spot view when I press F9.In fact, I use a Nostromo N52 keypad, so have engineered all my panel.cfg files (yes, after backing up the previous versions) so that when I press the same key on the pad, I get the little autopilot panel. I set it up and it works a treat: I find it useful.However, what I don't understand is why, when I go through panel views by pressing 'w', this autopilot panel appears unbidden when I arrive back at the full cockpit (not VC) view again. I'd be very grateful if anyone could tell me what the connection is between the various windows listed in the panel.cfg file and the 'w' ('panel on/off' option in assignemnts), and how I can avoid the little autopilot window being present every time I get back to the full panel view after pressing the 'w' key three times.Hope this is clear. I'll add a sample copy of my panel.cfg below so that you can see what is going on - [Window 09] is the autopilot one. (My other additions, as in Window 07, work fine - they don't suddenly make an unrequested appearance when I go through panel views!).As I say, please be gentle with me if I am doing something stupid!!!!Thanks in advance,Martin-----------------------------------------[Window Titles]Window00=747-400 Glass CockpitWindow01=TCASWindow02=RadioWindow03=GPSWindow04=StartWindow05=VFRWindow06=GroundhandlingWindow07=PedestalWindow08=Flight One PalmSpotterwindow09=AutopilotWindow10=Flight One TCASFixed Window33=Rear[Views]VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,175,10,50,225,250,MINI_PANELVIEW_FORWARD_DIR=-1.0, 0.0, 0.0VIEW_REAR_WINDOWS=33[Window00]file=B747dlx5.bmpsize_mm=1280position=0visible=1ident=MAIN_PANELgauge00=FSNAV.EHSI, 525,550,252,249gauge01=se.744!Compass, 1037,61,88,86gauge02=se.744!Nav Lights Switch, 741,2,40,72gauge03=se.744!Strobe Lights Switch, 805,2,40,72gauge04=se.744!Panel Lights Switch, 869,2,40,72gauge05=se.744!Landing Inboard Lights Switch, 966,7,60,64gauge06=se.744!Landing Outboard Lights Switch, 1030,7,56,64gauge07=se.744!Taxi Lights Switch, 1086,7,48,64gauge08=se.744!Beacon Lights Switch, 677,2,40,72gauge09=se.744!Master Warning Light, 560,336,34,34gauge10=se.744!Clock, 76,561,140,139gauge11=se.744!Standby Attitude Indicator, 796,432,124,124gauge12=se.744!Standby Airspeed Indicator, 796,567,124,124gauge13=se.744!Standby Altimeter, 796,702,124,112gauge14=se.744!Gear Lever, 1208,560,56,164gauge15=se.pbk, 904,935,70gauge16=se.744!EICAS Display, 934,510,250,250gauge17=se.744!EICAS Display Switch, 1134, 446 ,36,40gauge18=se.744!Autobrakes Switch, 1204,740,78,72gauge19=se.744!Throttle Quadrant, 920,874,430,210gauge20=se.744!Autopilot Master Switch, 1214,356,18,8,1gauge21=se.744!Autopilot IAS-Mach Selector, 830,375,50,50gauge22=se.744!Autopilot Heading Selector, 906,348,100,40gauge23=se.744!Autopilot VS Selector, 980,354,48,72gauge24=se.744!Autopilot Altitude Selector, 1070,351,50,50gauge25=se.744!Autopilot IAS-Mach Window, 823,324,44,24gauge26=se.744!Autopilot Heading Window, 911,324,44,24gauge27=se.744!Autopilot VS Window, 973,324,66,24gauge28=se.744!Autopilot Altitude Window, 1055,324,66,24gauge29=se.744!Autopilot Speed Switch, 794,371,18,8gauge30=se.744!Autopilot IAS-Mach Switch, 794,404,18,8gauge31=se.744!Autopilot Hdg Switch, 924,405,18,8gauge32=se.744!Autopilot Nav Switch, 878,339,18,8gauge33=se.744!Autopilot VS Switch, 1032,406,18,8gauge34=se.744!Autopilot Altitude Hold Switch, 1076,406,18,8gauge35=se.744!Autopilot Approach Switch, 1132,404,18,8gauge36=se.744!Autopilot Localizer Switch, 1132,372,18,8gauge37=se.744!Autothrottle Switch, 792,321,20,32gauge38=se.744!Flight Director Switch, 762,351,18,24gauge39=se.744!Nav-GPS Switch, 1183,356,18,8gauge40=se.744!Autopilot Master Switch, 1193,405,64,9,2gauge41=se.fsnav.plan, 1245,355,18,7gauge42=se.fsnav.mode1, 878,405,18,7gauge43=se.fsnav.mode2, 878,372,18,7gauge44=se.747.fsnav.prev, 1182,379,20,13gauge45=se.747.fsnav.next, 1214,379,20,13gauge46=se.747.fsnav.hold, 1244,379,20,13gauge47=se.747.fsnav.gps.switch, 630,351,52,39gauge48=se.pb.pfd, 245,559,240,236gauge49=se.ap.lvl.annun, 923,390,20 //MCPgauge50=se.ap.lvl.annun, 390,556,22,10 //PFDgauge51=se.ap.yaw.annun, 390,546,23,12gauge52=se.ap.mstr.annun, 255,546,23,11gauge53=se.ap.spd.annun, 288,546,22,10gauge54=se.ap.mch.annun, 288,556,22,10gauge55=se.ap.alt.annun, 312,546,22,10gauge56=se.ap.hdg.annun, 338,546,22,10gauge57=se.ap.nav.annun, 338,556,22,10gauge58=se.ap.apr.annun, 364,546,22,10gauge59=se.ap.bcs.annun, 364,556,22,10gauge60=se.744!Gs, 238,760,56,20gauge61=se.hg.radalt, 422,544,55gauge62=se.rcs.baroset, 707,327,33,30gauge63=se.744!Anun_Starter1, 788,850,100,20gauge64=se.744!Anun_Starter2, 788,869,100,20gauge65=se.744!Anun_Starter3, 788,888,100,20gauge66=se.744!Anun_Starter4, 788,907,100,20gauge67=se.744!Ice, 1223,869,48,20gauge68=se.744!Pitot, 1229,838,46,28gauge69=se.744!Exit, 1230,896,40,20gauge70=cpt.toggles.avncs!Chase, 516,18,20,20gauge71=cpt.toggles.knob!DeIce, 9,642,30,30gauge72=cpt.toggles.knob!SmokeSystem, 9,688,30,30gauge73=cpt.toggles.knob!AutoCoordinationToggle, 9,736,30,30gauge74=cpt.toggles.knob!Avionics, 9,782,30,30gauge75=cpt.toggles.knob!AllLights, 9,828,30,30gauge76=cpt.icons!Overhead, 1248,14,28,28gauge77=cpt.icons!IFR, 784,939,20,20gauge78=cpt.icons!Radio, 806,939,20,20gauge79=cpt.icons!GPS, 828,939,20,20gauge80=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 851,939,20,20gauge81=cpt.icons!Checklist, 1232,939,20,20gauge82=cpt.icons!Map, 1258,939,20,20gauge83=737-400!Flaps Ext, 309,868,28,14gauge84=737-400!Flaps Transit, 309,855,28,14gauge85=boeing777-300!Audio, 980,780,164,34//gauge86=RwyInfo!V1, 804,832,68,18//gauge87=737.WCgpws, 260,855,28,26gauge88=cd.crs2, 701,367,17,17gauge89=fsd_warn.parkbrake, 361,855,28,16gauge90=fsd_warn.dh, 361,871,28,12gauge91=MILITARY.CONFIG, 410,900,60//gauge92=TC.FUELSTATUSCG, 70,712,150,150 //This gauge will not work with an unregistered version of FSUIPC !!!!!!!!!!gauge93=TA7x7.Brake_press, 623,826,48,48gauge94=BOEING767-300.HGHB_TOGA, 1208,440,70gauge95=cessna!IOAT, 8,898,104,38gauge96=TAB-SPOILER, 947,843,60gauge97=rp_trim, 1120,844,44gauge98=rcb_groundhandling!Icon_Pushback, 494,18,20,20gauge99=PalmSpotter2004!PalmKey,0,0,0,0,65gauge100=UltimateTraffic2004!TCASKey,0,0,0,0,66gauge101=Autosmoke!ExtraAutosmoke, 0,0,1gauge102=Autosmoke!LightsAutosmoke, 0,0[Window01]file=B747dlx5.tcas.bmpsize_mm=284,290visible=0ident=175window_pos= 0.397, 0.545gauge00=F16!Radar, 16,34,250,190gauge01=F16!Radar Mode, 38,242,80,26gauge02=F16!Radar Range, 168,242,80,26[Window02] //imported from B777_300 panelfile=RADIO.bmp size_mm=624window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0visible=0ident=RADIO_STACK_PANELwindow_size= 0.382, 0.404window_pos= 0.620, 0.445gauge00=74SP_RADIO!ADF, 314,290,260,114gauge01=74SP_RADIO!Audio, 313,2,263,56gauge02=74SP_RADIO!Comm 1, 53,290,262,111gauge03=74SP_RADIO!Comm 2, 55,405,260,114gauge04=74SP_RADIO!Nav 1, 315,60,260,114gauge05=74SP_RADIO!Nav 2, 314,175,262,113gauge06=74SP_RADIO!Transponder, 315,405,262,115gauge07=747SP_INS!LONGITUDE, 183,67,107,33gauge08=747SP_INS!LATITUDE, 82,67,89,33//[Window02] //old radio panel - no NAV radio !!!//file=B747dlx5.mfd.bmp //size_mm=280,142//visible=0//ident=50//window_pos= 0.720, 0.870//gauge00=se.fpda.radio, 36,23,200,116//gauge01=se.cd.xpdr, 54,110,70,22[Window03]size_mm=456,378window_size= 0.382, 0.404window_pos= 0.620, 0.445position=8BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,0VISIBLE=0ident=GPS_PANELgauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0[Window04]file=B747dlx5.start.bmp size_mm=1280position=1visible=0ident=250gauge00=se.744!Engine Start Knob 1, 402,359,33,32gauge01=se.744!Engine Start Knob 2, 465,359,33,32gauge02=se.744!Engine Start Knob 3, 528,359,33,32gauge03=se.744!Engine Start Knob 4, 591,359,33,32gauge04=se.fpda.air, 1069,616,44,29gauge05=se.dfd.light.1, 52,736,30,4gauge06=se.dfd.light.2, 114,736,30,4gauge07=se.dfd.light.3, 227,736,30,4gauge08=se.dfd.light.4, 295,736,30,4gauge09=se.dfd.light.1, 1009,637,30,4gauge10=se.dfd.light.1, 1134,637,30,4gauge11=se.dfd.light.1, 1202,637,30,4gauge12=se.dfd.light.2, 942,825,30,4gauge13=se.dfd.light.2, 1000,825,30,4gauge14=se.dfd.light.3, 1007, 737 ,30,4gauge15=se.dfd.light.3, 1133,737,30,4gauge16=se.dfd.light.3, 1073,812,30,4gauge17=se.dfd.light.4, 1138,824,30,4gauge18=se.dfd.light.4, 1199,824,30,4gauge19=se.dfd.gen.light.1, 46,578,36,35gauge20=se.dfd.gen.light.2, 112,578,36,35gauge21=se.dfd.gen.light.3, 227,578,36,35gauge22=se.dfd.gen.light.4, 291,578,36,35gauge23=lear_45!Fuel Crossfeed, 614,660,30,30gauge24=lear_45!Fuel Left Standby, 469,583,40,39gauge25=lear_45!Fuel Right Standby, 666,583,40,39gauge26=lear_45!Fuel Left Standby, 553,583,40,39gauge27=lear_45!Fuel Right Standby, 746,583,40,39gauge28=dfd_soundsw1!snd_sw1, 961,383,20,33gauge29=dfd_soundsw2!snd_sw2, 987,383,20,33gauge30=dfd_soundsw3!snd_sw3, 1013,383,20,33gauge31=dfd_soundsw4!snd_sw4, 1039,383,20,33gauge32=dfd_soundsw5!snd_sw5, 1065,383,20,33gauge33=dfd_soundsw6!snd_sw6, 1091,383,20,33gauge34=dfd_soundsw7!snd_sw7, 1117,383,20,33gauge35=dfd_soundsw8!snd_sw8, 1143,383,20,33gauge36=dfd_soundsw9!snd_sw9, 1169,383,20,33gauge37=dfd_soundsw10!snd_sw10, 1195,383,20,33gauge38=cpt.toggles.rocker!Fuel1, 483,658,36,36gauge39=cpt.toggles.rocker!Fuel2, 546,658,36,36gauge40=cpt.toggles.rocker!Fuel3, 677,658,36,36gauge41=cpt.toggles.rocker!Fuel4, 740,658,36,36gauge42=cpt.toggles.777!Alternator1, 40,505,48,54gauge43=cpt.toggles.777!Alternator2, 108,505,48,54gauge44=cpt.toggles.777!Alternator3, 220,505,48,54gauge45=cpt.toggles.777!Alternator4, 287,505,48,54gauge46=cpt.toggles.777!Avionics, 144,357,36,41gauge47=cpt.toggles.777!StartJet1, 399,407,40,45gauge48=cpt.toggles.777!StartJet2, 463,407,40,45gauge49=cpt.toggles.777!StartJet3, 526,407,40,45gauge50=cpt.toggles.777!StartJet4, 590,407,40,45gauge51=cpt.toggles.777!Autostart, 164,427,48,54gauge52=cpt.toggles.777!Avionics, 202,357,36,41gauge53=cpt.toggles.777!PitotHeat, 690,795,40,46gauge54=cpt.toggles.777!PitotHeat, 734,795,40,46gauge55=cpt.toggles.777!DeIce, 413,821,40,46gauge56=cpt.toggles.777!DeIce, 546,821,40,46gauge57=cpt.toggles.777!DeIce, 479,847,40,46gauge58=cpt.toggles.777!DeIce, 458,793,40,46gauge59=cpt.toggles.777!DeIce, 503,793,40,46gauge60=cpt.toggles.777!Dummy, 1004,556,40,44gauge61=cpt.toggles.208!PanelLights, 84,36,36,40gauge62=cpt.toggles.208!LogoLights, 128,36,36,40gauge63=cpt.toggles.208!WingLights, 172,36,36,40gauge64=cpt.toggles.208!StrobeLights, 216,36,36,40gauge65=cpt.toggles.208!BeaconLights, 260,36,36,40gauge66=cpt.toggles.knob!Battery, 277,362,56,56gauge67=cpt.toggles.knob!Alternator, 40,362,56,56gauge68=cpt.toggles.knob!ElectricVacuumPump, 34,784,56,56gauge69=cpt.toggles.knob!ElectricVacuumPump, 100,784,56,56gauge70=cpt.toggles.knob!ElectricVacuumPump, 213,784,56,56gauge71=cpt.toggles.knob!ElectricVacuumPump, 280,784,56,56gauge72=cpt.toggles.avncs!Dummy, 948,584,30,6gauge73=cpt.toggles.avncs!Dummy, 1075,584,30,6gauge74=cpt.toggles.avncs!Dummy, 1134,584,30,6gauge75=cpt.toggles.avncs!Dummy, 1200,584,30,6gauge76=cpt.toggles.avncs!Autopilot YAW, 1140,281,26,26gauge77=cpt.toggles.avncs!Autopilot YAW, 1194,281,26,26gauge78=cpt.toggles.avncs!Alternator1, 49,671,30,6gauge79=cpt.toggles.avncs!Alternator2, 115,671,30,6gauge80=cpt.toggles.avncs!Alternator3, 230,671,30,6gauge81=cpt.toggles.avncs!Alternator4, 296,671,30,6gauge82=cpt.icons!Overhead, 1205,32,26,26gauge83=cpt.toggles.light.square!Autostart, 799,465,44,44gauge84=cpt.toggles.light.square!BatteryAlternator, 711,465,44,44gauge85=cpt.toggles.avncs!Exits, 944,30,30,30gauge86=cpt.icons!Checklist, 1017,30,30,30gauge87=cpt.icons!ATC, 1131,30,30,30gauge88=FPDA.FIRE.1, 484,65,50,80gauge89=FPDA.FIRE.2, 564,65,50,80gauge90=FPDA.FIRE.3, 649,65,50,80gauge91=FPDA.FIRE.4, 731,65,50,80gauge92=HGHB_FF_5DIGIT_1, 464,717,50,25gauge93=HGHB_FF_5DIGIT_2, 550,717,50,25gauge94=HGHB_FF_5DIGIT_3, 662,717,50,25gauge95=HGHB_FF_5DIGIT_4, 741,717,50,25gauge96=boeing777-300!Fuel_Selector, 609,577,38,38gauge97=HGHB_seat-belts, 932,261,48,50gauge98=HGHB_no-smoking, 1012,261,48,50[Window05] position=7size_mm=551,151child_3d=1background_color=0,0,0ident=MINIPANELgauge00=737-400!Airspeed, 64,36, 90,90 gauge01=737-400!ADI, 155,39, 90,90 gauge02=737-400!HSI, 246,37, 90,90 gauge03=737-400!Altimeter, 336,37, 90,90 gauge04=737-400!Vertical Speed, 427,47, 70,70 //[Window05] //HUD displayBackground_color=0,0,0 size_mm=400,400position=4visible=1ident=MINIPANELchild_3d=1gauge00=F16!HUD Max, 0,0,400,400gauge01=cpt.toggles.light.square!Autopilot, 0,380,20,20gauge02=cpt.toggles.light.square!Autothrottle, 380,380,20,20//------------------------[Window06]size_mm=196,100 // The relative window size in pixels.ident=10005 // The ident used by Icon_Pushback.visible=0 // 0: hidden when aircraft is loaded.window_size= 0.3,0.2 // Window screen size: 30 % Hor., 20 % Vert.position=0 // 0: opens in top-left of screen.background_color=16,16,16gauge00=rcb_groundhandling!XMLSoundSwitch, 0, 0, 50, 36gauge01=rcb_groundhandling!AutoTaxiAfterLanding, 50, 0, 48, 36gauge02=rcb_groundhandling!AutoTaxiAfterParkingbrake, 98, 0, 48, 36gauge03=rcb_groundhandling!ParkingBrakeSwitch, 146, 0, 50, 36gauge04=rcb_groundhandling!PushbackDisplay, 0, 36, 86, 64//gauge05=rcb_groundhandling!TaxispeedFS2004, 86, 36, 60, 64 //NOTE-1//gauge05=rcb_groundhandling!TaxispeedFS2002, 86, 36, 60, 64 //NOTE-1gauge05=rcb_groundhandling!TaxispeedNoBrakes, 86, 36, 60, 64 //NOTE-1gauge06=rcb_groundhandling!BrakePressure, 146, 36, 50, 64gauge07=rcb_groundhandling!PushbackStates, 0,0gauge08=rcb_groundhandling!XMLSoundServer,0,0gauge09=rcb_groundhandling!BrakeSound, 0,0gauge10=rcb_sound!sound,0,0,,,9998 9999 95 // 95:Default overall sound volume[Window07]file=ATC.BMP size_mm=250window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0visible=1ident=THROTTLE_PANELwindow_size= 0.25, 0.35window_pos= 0.095, 0.250gauge00=ATC-WHM!ATC-1 Switch, 32,147,9,9gauge01=ATC-WHM!ATC Switch, 57,129,30,10gauge02=ATC-WHM!ATC-0 Switch, 103,170,9,8gauge03=ATC-WHM!ATC-9 Switch, 85,170,9,8gauge04=ATC-WHM!ATC-8 Switch, 67,170,9,8gauge05=ATC-WHM!ATC-7 Switch, 50,170,9,8gauge06=ATC-WHM!ATC-6 Switch, 32,170,9,8gauge07=ATC-WHM!ATC-5 Switch, 103,147,9,9gauge08=ATC-WHM!ATC-4 Switch, 85,147,9,9gauge09=ATC-WHM!ATC-3 Switch, 67,147,9,9gauge10=ATC-WHM!ATC-2 Switch, 50,147,9,9[Window08]file=....Flight One GaugesPalmSpotter.bmpsize_mm=272.5,500position=1visible=0ident=65gauge00=PalmSpotter2004!PalmSpotter,0,0,272.5,500,65[Window09]file=Autopilot.bmp size_mm=270window_size_ratio=1.00 position=2visible=0ident=0gauge00=b52v2.autopilot, 20,22,230[Window10]size_mm=500,622.5position=2visible=0ident=66gauge00=UltimateTraffic2004!TCAS,0,0,500,622.5,66[VCockpit01]size_mm=512,512pixel_size=512,512texture=$747_1background_color=0,0,0gauge00=Boeing747-400!Standby Altimeter, 0, 113, 111, 101gauge01=Boeing747-400!Standby Airspeed Indicator, 112, 114, 111, 110gauge02=Boeing747-400!Standby Attitude Indicator, 113, 1, 111, 111gauge03=se.pb.pfd, 20,260,230 gauge04=FSNAV.EHSI, 300,290,200 gauge05=Boeing747-400!Clock, 1, 1, 113, 113gauge06=Boeing747-400!EICAS Display, 286, 2, 224, 252gauge07=Magnetic_Compass!Magnetic-Compass,225, 166, 60, 59gauge08=Boeing747-400!Autopilot IAS-Mach Window, 233, 0, 45, 15gauge09=Boeing747-400!Autopilot VS Window, 226, 15, 59, 16gauge10=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Heading Window, 233, 31, 45, 15gauge11=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Altitude Window, 226, 47, 59, 16gauge12=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Hdg Switch, 259, 253, 25, 29gauge13=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Localizer Switch, 256, 64, 29, 30gauge14=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Approach Switch, 226, 96, 29, 29gauge15=Boeing747-400!Autopilot VS Switch,256, 96, 29, 29gauge16=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Nav Switch, 226, 126, 29, 29gauge17=Boeing747-400!Autopilot IAS-Mach Switch, 256, 126, 29, 30gauge18=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Speed Switch, 257, 285, 29, 29gauge19=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Altitude Hold Switch, 226, 64, 29, 30gauge20=Boeing747-400!Autopilot Master Switch, 259, 227, 25, 24[VCockpit02]size_mm=256,256pixel_size=256,256texture=$777_2background_color=0,0,0gauge00=Boeing777-300!Comm 1, 0, 0, 127, 54gauge01=Boeing777-300!Comm 2, 0, 54, 127, 54gauge02=Boeing777-300!Nav 1, 0, 108, 127, 54gauge03=Boeing777-300!Nav 2, 0, 162, 127, 54gauge04=Boeing777-300!Transponder, 129, 0, 127, 49gauge05=Boeing777-300!ADF, 129, 49, 127, 54gauge06=Boeing777-300!Audio, 0, 216, 125, 26[Fixed Window33]size_mm=1280Background_Color=16,16,16visible=0position=0nomenu=1ident=33Gauge00=777_Cabin!Rear, 0,0,1280,980Day=255,255,255Night=233,166,134Luminous=201,64,64[Default View]X=0Y=0SIZE_X=8191SIZE_Y=2770

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Oops - nothing in square brackets came out in the post. The autopilot section is this one, near the bottom (listed as Window 09 both to[p and bottom):file=Autopilot.bmpsize_mm=270window_size_ratio=1.00position=2visible=0ident=0gauge00=b52v2.autopilot, 20,22,230

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You have assigned your window an ident of 0. This value is the same as that assigned to the main panel. Change the value on the "ident=" line to a unique value - try something between 10000 and 20000.Doug

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Hi Martin,I won't call you "stupid" :-)In fact, you just discovered a new feature (at least: for me), where a window can be hidden behind the non-PureBlack spots of the main panel bitmap !!!I assume with "unbidden" you mean "unhidden" ?? This is caused by the ident=0 line in the window definition of your AP window.Use ident=10000 (or any value undefined by FS, or by another gauge) instead, and the problem is gone !!.And if I might make another suggestion: use my Groundhandling V4.0 package (rcbgh-40.zip). Much better ...LOLCheers, Rob Barendregt

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Hey Doug ....This isn't the first time we replied to a post at the same time :-) :-)And with the same answer ..Cheers, Rob

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I hadn't understood what the indent line did - it just seemed to 'indent' the window from the screen margins. As soon as I get back to FS9 later today, I'll try what you say. I got the same advice from another friend last night, so looks as if this is the solution. Rob, (I did mean unbidden, but unhidden is also true!): would try your pushback panel but it would mean me changing all my cfg files again! Not sure I have the heart - this week I have also had to revise them all putting the 'autosmoke' feature in (from AVSIM library): lots of trial and error each time gauging where to put the gauge (so to speak). It'd be good to have a facility to put a grid onto the panel whilst working on it so as to be able to see precise co-ordinates, but haven't seen such a thing!Thanks very much for the replies. I'll post back with results...Martin

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Rob,Dowloaded your update anyway - whilst I am changing the cfg files with the indent, I can add this too! Always found the groundhandling gauge very useful - especially the autotaxi speed on landing. Found one or two other goodies by using your name in the serach box too!M. :-)

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Changing the indent to 10000 or 20000 stops the autopilot gauge appearing at all - the Palmspotter gauge appears instead. Don't see why, as I haven't changed the window order in the cfg file.However, tried indent=1000 - and problem solved (at least in the B777 I tried).. Thanks again.Martin

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>Changing the indent to 10000 or 20000 stops the autopilot>gauge appearing at all - the Palmspotter gauge appears>instead. Don't see why, as I haven't changed the window order>in the cfg file.>>However, tried indent=1000 - and problem solved (at least in>the B777 I tried).. Thanks again.>>MartinHi Martin, if 10000 or 20000 idents doesn't work, it means that they are used in other gauge in your panel. If you haven't made errors, and you claim that the wrong window is opening: This is what must be happening: a gauge detects that a window with ident=10000 is opened, and then automatically opens its own window with ident=65. So that window is on top of the AP with ident=10000.Note also that window order is very complicated in FS2004.It's a combination or order-of-definition, order-of-opening, and value of ident number. (depending if it is a FS defined ident or not)But after two years FS2004 I still haven't figured out exactly how ...:-)Cheers, ROb

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>Changing the indent to 10000 or 20000 stops the autopilot>gauge appearing at all - the Palmspotter gauge appears>instead. Don't see why, as I haven't changed the window order>in the cfg file.>>However, tried indent=1000 - and problem solved (at least in>the B777 I tried).. Thanks again.Martin, the keyword is "ident", not "indent"...ident as in, identity... ;)As for your "grid" desire, I cannot recommend FS Panel Studio any higher for a very simple, visually oriented approach to panel development...It isn't 'free,' but it is by FAR the best $30 I've ever spent! ;)

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