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GeForce3 Titanium or Geforce 4 4200?

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I Cant Make Up My Mind!!! Aghhh!! Anyone Got Any Comments, Help, And Suggestions? Some say Geforce 3 Is Better then 4 while tohers say 4 is better than 3! Any Comments Are Appreciated! Thanks!

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Personally.. I'd go for the GeForce 4. Why? Because they're not much more in price, and they clock better. That, and they're newer ;-)

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If money isn't a serious issue, go for the 4ti over the 3ti.Check out http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/index.html for a good comparison of the features (clock rates, data bus sizes, etc.) of the various GeForce3 and 4 cards.Using that comparison chart (which includes not only specs, but also FPS rates for each card with a variety of different games), I ultimately selected the GeForce 4Ti 4400. It was $100 cheaper than the 4600 for only a small amount of difference in performance. On the other hand, it was only a bit more expensive than the 3Ti's but with better numbers.Hope this helps.--Tony(edited to get the correct URL inserted)P.S. - I see so many questions about video cards I think I'll post a separate message here and at FlightSim.com with the link so folks will see it. I found the chart that helpful!

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Performance-wise, you might find them to be similar, but the GF4 will give you a broader feature set for the same price (in some cases - for less).J

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For the small price difference between the GF3 Ti and GF4 Ti (4200), I would choose the 4200. Then again, I'm a techno-geek and I tend to splurge on the latest and greatest whenever I have the means to do so ;) I think you will find that the GF4 will stand the test of time a bit better than the GF3 though, if you are taking that into consideration. Also keep in mind the excellent FSAA performance of the 128MB GF4 cards, even in comparison to the GF3s. FSAA is a very useful feature for flight sims, and I think most simmers would prefer an AA'd sim vs. a non-AA'd sim. On a side note, I'd just like to mention that Nvidia has stated that one of their goals for future products is zero (or near-zero) performance loss when FSAA is enabled :)Max Cowgill

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Its the Geforce 4 MX you have to avoid...not the other geforce 4'sCrag Kiltie

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I personally consider a Geforce 3 Ti more than adequate for FS2002, as you can still crank up all the options that hit the video card (ie texture size, colour depth, resolution, etc) with just about no noticeable performance hit. However, seeing as the Ti4200 probably won't cost much more, you might as well get the latest. And it is faster than a Geforce 3, even though that in itself won't make much difference to FS2002.

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Yep, don't make the same mistake as me, I got the GeForce 4 MX420, and found that all the reflective textures had disappeared! Fortunately a kind soul on this forum told me that the card doesn't support alpha-channels. So I took it back, got a refund, and I now have an order in at dabs.com for a Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb. Cost

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I'd take any Geforce3, Ti or not over a GF4 MX.But I would pick the Geforce4 Ti4200 over any Geforce3.

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Ok Thanks Guys, GeForce 4 Ti4200 It Is! Im going to pick it up this weekend ;) :-jumpy Goodbye VooDoo!!!

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And the gf 4 supports dual monitors natively. Once you go dual monitor there's no going back

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>Ok Thanks Guys, GeForce 4 Ti4200 It Is! Im going to pick it >up this weekend ;) :-jumpy Goodbye VooDoo!!! Ahhh. So a soon-to-be ex Voodoo owner. I was in the same boat as you three months ago. I had had Voodoos since the "beginning" and the Geforce 3 was my first "serious" Nvidia card (I halso have a very servicable and reliable TNT in my "work" machine).Be prepared for a lot of tweaking and spending a lot of time coming up with the best settings for FS2002. It took me a couple of months of playing with registry entries and drivers to get it working like I wanted. If you had a Voodoo 5500, You WILL miss the 3dfx anti-aliasing (still the best imho) but on the other-hand, you can crank the resolution, textures and colour depth right up - something which would have made the Voodoo choke.Don't expect a significant frame rate increase but you will get a much better image. I also recommend using Digital Vibrancy (I use the low setting) and anisotropic filtering as it really improves the look of FS2002. When I recently put my Voodoo back in for comparison purposes I couldn't believe how much better FS2002 was looking with the Geforce.

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" I also recommend using Digital Vibrancy (I use the low setting)"Can you explain what this is please?Stamatis

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Stamatis, Digital vibrance is a technology that NVidia came up with that allows you to control the color being displayed. It controls the seperation and intensity of the color. It allows you to have more or less color saturation. Go to this link: http://www.nvidia.com/ and at the top of the page there is a search function, type in digital vibrance, the search will produce several results, click on the first one and it will give you a good description and pictures that show it in action.I have a geforce 4 TI4400, and use it at the second or third setting, and just love the effect it gives, especially in FS2K2.Hope this helps, Scott..

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Scott,Thanks for replying.I have a GeForce 3, maybe it is a "GeForce 4 only" feature?But I will visit the link anyway.Stamatis

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Stamatis,It's a feature on a Geforce 3 as well, If I had more time I could explain how to get to the settings but I really got to sign off here and get going on my day, if no one else responds with how (can't remember the exact procedure) to do this, I will later on when I get back home I will go through it. You could look around for it though its under advanced display settings under color management or correction I believe.Scott...

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>Roy has tested the last GeForce4 Ti4600 and says : >>http://www.roychaffin.com/rcs-panels.html >Date : 15th May 2002 No offense to Roy, but that's a pretty sad "review." Does he actually think the "previous best card for FS" was a GF2MX? LOL! He claims "twice the FPS" but doesn't list what his system specs are, nor does he list any of his FS2K2/video settings so that information is unqualified. Ok, that's enough out of me, don't mean to rag on anyone...Max Cowgill

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Geez, give the guy a break, he designs Freeware flight sim panels, not professional hardware reviews. So he posts on his website his experience with his new card. There is no need to berate someone for that. Scott..

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>Geez, give the guy a break, he designs Freeware flight sim >panels, not professional hardware reviews. So he posts on >his website his experience with his new card. There is no >need to berate someone for that. Firstly, I never implied that Roy is a hardware reviewer, nor that he should know everything there is to know about PC hardware. Secondly, since when am I not allowed to state my opinion? I didn't realize that freedom of speech was outlawed on the internet. If you'll notice in my post I said "No offense to Roy" and "not to rag on anyone." Why take it so personally then? I didn't call Roy any names, I simply stated the information he placed on his website regarding this matter is incorrect. I don't see how that's "berating" him. Roy can say whatever the heck he wants to on his website, it's his website. I never said he couldn't. Is society so politically correct now that we can't correct misinformation because it might offend the disseminator of such? Max Cowgill

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