JD,On a flight from KMCO to KORD last night, I was holding short of runway 36R. There was an A320 on final about 3 miles out. I called the tower (actually Otto called them). I was told to "taxi into position and hold".I would have expected to have had to wait on the inbound plane since it was less than 3 miles out. I waited for the aircraft to land and then taxied into position. I was then given the "cleared for takeoff"... but the A320 had not cleared the runway.Not sure if this was the correct behavior, so I thought that I would post the report. I was using the latest build posted Sunday morning.

are you guessing 3 miles? if it was 4 miles, i don't worry about it. next time you fly, have trafficlook.exe running, and check the distance. or pause the sim, run trafficlook.exe and check the distancejd

Hello JD, May I ask a dumb question? Where is TrafficLook? Is it part of the upbuild or have I missed the boat entirely?Regards

should be in the current fsuipc.zip file (download it seperately from schirtatti.com)jd

>are you guessing 3 miles?The aircraft tag read "UA320 3.2" (or something like that)... this is what I was using. I will see if I can try it again tonight, using the "trafficlook.exe" program.Bryan

Thanks JD, Yep, I'm a dummy. Missed that one entirely.Regards

Bryan,To be certain, make sure you are running RC v3.1.Also, Trafficlook will have the exact same data RC is getting, so regardless of what FS says, you'll know what RC sees. Also, make sure you have in FSUIPC.ini this line:TrafficScanPerFrame=100This tells FSUIPC how much of the AI to update per frame. 100 means 100%.

I ran a quick test late last night (so late that I forgot to post the results). :-lol When the inbound aircraft was showing 3 miles in trafficlook, I called the tower. They had me wait and cleared the inbound plane for landing. Then after a short bit, ATC had me taxi into position and hold. However, I was cleared for takeoff before the landing aircraft had cleared the runway.I will hopefully try out a few more scenarios this evening.Thanks!Bryan

i will look at the criteria i use to clear you for takeoff.jd

good catch! i wasn't checking if there was a plane on the runway, after i tell you to taxi into position and hold.the way it was, as soon as you lined up, you were cleared. i have a new build, hopefully will not clear you for takeoff if there is a plane on the runway. send me an email, and i'll send you this build to test, if you wouldthanksjd

Hello JDThis same thing happens to me all the time. There's either a incomeing AC that's 3-4 miles or there's an AC on the runway and ATC clears me on the runway or clear me for takeoff. This has been an ongoing issue that I ignored. I grown accustomed to waiting until all AC was clear before I taxied onto position on runway. Also I was hopeing you would change the ATC direction heading from "fly heading so and so" to turn left or right to heading So and so.I still enjoy your productBill M

JD,Ran some tests last night with the file that you sent...Case 1: Two planes on final called tower when first plane was 3 miles out and the second was about 7 miles out). ATC held me until after the second plane landed. I then was told to taxi into position. I was cleared once the second plane was off the runway.(aborted TO and went back to wait for the next arrival)Case 2: Called tower when aircraft was 3 miles out. Told to hold. The landing aircraft landed a bit far down the runway... ATC had me taxi into position and hold before the landing plane actually touched down (but it had passed the normal touchdown zone)... this was pretty neat. I was cleared one the plane was off the runway.(aborted TO and went back to wait for the next arrival)Case 3: Called tower when aircraft was 2 miles out. Told to hold. Told to taxi into position after plane landed. The aircraft actually turned off of the runway onto a taxiway, did a 180 and came to a stop (its nose was actually a tiny bit near over the edge of the runway). I was never cleared for takeoff and the other plane never moved. I think this may be a bad hold point in the AFCAD, so MSATC was holding the other aircraft because I was on the runway... and RC was holding me because the other airplane was slightly on the runway.Thanks!Bryan

the problem is being tested as we speakas far as turning left and right, that is now a 50-50 thing. you will either be given a heading, or a direction to turn and a headingthat is in 3.1 now.jd

sounds like it is working. thanks for testing it.i'm rebuilding my machine tonight, so it will be the weekend before i can upload the latest buildjd