TurboTomato

I ended up reading Wings on my Sleeve, a book by the test pilot Eric 'Winkle' Brown. Fascinating stuff, and a great read

So you're saying that the following plan (EGKK-LSGG)

ID Frequency Track Distance (nm) Coordinates Name/Remarks

EGKK - 0 0 N51°08'53.00" W000°11'25.00" LONDON GATWICK

BOGNA - 184 27 N50°42'07.00" W000°15'06.00" BOGNA

BENBO - 145 18 N50°27'05.00" E000°00'37.00" BENBO

HAWKE - 145 6 N50°22'27.00" E000°05'25.00" HAWKE

XAMAB - 145 12 N50°12'16.00" E000°15'53.00" XAMAB

VEULE - 145 25 N49°51'24.00" E000°37'12.00" VEULE

INPAX - 140 35 N49°24'29.00" E001°10'47.00" INPAX

RESMI - 141 64 N48°34'07.00" E002°11'31.00" RESMI

ODEBU - 134 24 N48°16'52.00" E002°37'34.00" ODEBU

OGULO - 155 4 N48°13'06.00" E002°40'09.00" OGULO

LUSAR - 131 138 N46°40'08.00" E005°10'46.00" LUSAR

LSGG

Would be read as "find a BOGNA SID and LUSAR STAR"?

Hopefully that edit should have sorted it...

Nice shot, almost looks like a photograph!

This!

OFP is not aware of the current weather and active runways. That is up to the PIC. Then fly your own SID and STAR.

This is more based on the fact that the OP said the following:

 

 

does fuel calculations,programs SIDS and STARS too 

I'm far to lazy for that lol. I basicly just want to hop in the plane load a .Rte file in the FMC. Push back,start up and blast off. If I'm flying in the real world I'll take the time to plan a flight out but I'm not gonna take the time to do it in a sim.

Just done a quick EGKK-LSGG route. No SIDs or STARs in the flight plan (nor departure or arrival runways, which the SIDs and STARSs depend on).

Great stuff! Was going to ask if they were your own sky textures but you've answered that already

I did EGKK to LSGG last night, without using the co-pilot to actually do the checklist items, for the first time. So we are all learning at the moment!

I use it without problems in P3D 2.5

Make sure that all the items in the autopilot are in 'managed' mode - ie with a dot next to them by pushing the knob. If you forget that then trying to follow the tutorial won't work. Keep trying though, it took me a number of goes to complete a flight...

Persevere Pe11e - I was a pure Project Airbus 320 series simmer for a long, long time, with no payware aircraft at all. I cracked after being fed up of not being called a retard when I landed  . So I bought the Aerosoft A320/321 (this is all in P3D but it shouldn't make any difference). I too hoped that I could just fire an FSX/P3D flight planner created plan at the FMC but it wasn't so. So I took the time to do the (very good) tutorial and realised that, with the checklists and co-pilot on, it really wasn't that difficult. I now start from cold and dark, and yes does take longer than in the PA320 to get going, but quite a lot of that is just waiting for the INS to align.

In respect of a flight plan, you may want to get a flight planner of some sort. I quickly got bored of trying to find the routes on the net, and keying them all in. So I bought PFPX, which I now use for planning. It's easy to use and has a pretty good interface - better than EFB and miles better than FSCommander, and best of all it exports directly to the Aerosoft Airbus format.

But then you get into the problems of nav data AIRAC cycles... 

Not a recommendation (shock horror) but I would assume there would be flight schools at Biggin Hill, Redhill and Headcorn (in fact I know someone learning at Headcorn so there must be one there). All not too far from London.

I'd wait for the Aerosoft A330 to be honest. I have the A320, my first payware aircraft, and it was a nice progression from flying things like that A330 and the PA A320 series.

Just a quick update, it looks as though the site has moved, and they also have 1m scenery available now as well!

http://italyphotoreal.weebly.com/

I've been turned off photoscenery recently but these shots show perfectly how amazing it can look. Tone and colours are really spot on

Here as well.

Hang on a sec. Didn't 'HighMemFix' go out on the Ark with FSX?

PFPX is correct because there isn't a transition and the star ends at waypoint GG514 and max 220 KT only with

ATC approval you may turn on to final base which is SPR the IF... and start the ILS 23 approach...

 

That's why you need charts as they do in the real world ;-)

 

Cheers,

 

 

 

Thanks. Tried EGKK to EDDM and yes, the thing I needed to get from the STAR to the ILS approach was on the chart for EDDM. So that's what I will look out for.

Yeah I just picked one that I fly to regularly that I know has at least 1 STAR transition. Sounds like possibly a bug in PFPX so I'll probably post in their forum unless someone can shed any more light. Thanks for your help.

As it happens Ray, I tried that last night in PFPX after a bit of searching on Aerosoft's forum, side-by-side with EFB. I couldn't get it to offer up any STAR transitions as the drop down box was always greyed out. As an example I tried an LSGG runway 23 ILS approach. For the route I selected the usual 'Auto' which will get me the STAR DJL1R. When I then select 'Edit' (for the route) I'll get the map on the RHS, as you say but only the STAR drop down is available for selection, and the last waypoint I see on the route is SOVAD. Whatever I do in terms of changing the STAR (or even switching the runway back and forth), the transition drop down is always greyed out. Yet in EFB, after selecting the STAR it gives me the correct choice of (just the one) SPR. Which is the VIA I need to select in the Airbus FMC. So either PFPX isn't working correctly, or I need the chart.

Well yes I realise that, my point is that actually I'm only missing a tiny bit of what I want from PFPX - STAR transitions to approaches. The way I fly (and I realise that this isn't the most realistic but it's what works for me) is to import the flight plan created from PFPX into the Aerosoft Airbus FMC. Since PFPX doesn't export the SID or STAR I manually input them into the FMC (this is all being done during the pre-engine start checklists). As I say I realise that inputting the STAR and STAR transition at this point isn't very realistic as it would be done in flight depending on conditions but it suits me to put it in when I'm inputting the STAR. In the A320 (as you probably know) you'll need to put a VIA in to get from the last waypoint to the approach otherwise you'll end up with an overall approach flight path that doesn't work. When I look at the list of VIAs I have no idea which one is where, what STAR it's appropriate for etc. If you pick the wrong one it will totally mess up your approach flight path/speed etc etc. So it's at that point I either need a) something like EFB has which gives the appropriate VIA for the STAR or b) a chart so that I can actually eyeball the VIA to check which one is correct (as presumably Navigraph charts would do) or c) something else that I may not be aware of that does that job.

I've only read one so far and enjoyed that - Capt Chesley Sullenberger's Highest Duty. I have Sled Driver (about the SR71) to read but I'm looking for something to read on holiday soon, so interested in this thread. I've asked elsewhere and Chickenhawk has been mentioned so I'm guessing that that's pretty good.

Yes it does. Bear in mind it's what comes through from Navigraph that decides that, not EFB. By using a single source (Navigraph) I can be reassured I'll see the same STARs and VIAs for a given runway in EFB as I do using Project Magenta's CDU.

Yeah I'm aware of that - hence with I personally have NavDataPro supplying the data for both PFPX and the Airbus A320.

I downloaded the trial last night and gave it a go - yes it does do that STAR transition that I want but it does a lot of other stuff not as well as PFPX, and a lot of other stuff I don't need/want (moving map etc). So I'm a bit loathe to spend out quite a lot of money just to get that tiny extra bit of functionality. Perhaps Navigraph is what I need? PFPX provides the route and STAR so all I need are the charts with the transitions on them to be able to choose the correct one. Maybe I need to start a new topic on the subject...

I have a subscription for the FMS data which I update 4 times a year. That gives me all I need for Project Magenta CDU / ND and EFB's database.

 

I don't need real-world airport layouts as my 3rd party airports may not be the same. EFB reads all my scenery files and displays my airport layout. Perfect and at reasonable cost.

Ray, does EFB give you STARs that include VIAs as well? I use the Aersoft Airbus and use PFPX for flight planning along with a single cycle from NavdataPro. PFPX is fine, and pretty easy to use - from that I'll get my SID and STAR and I'll use whichever one it advises. Problem is when I get to inputting the SID and STAR into the FMC in the Airbus I'll need to select and appropriate VIA and I'll have to pretty much guess. If I try googling for a chart I may get something with a VIA that doesn't match my cycle of nav data.