Amrick615

You’ve been very helpful, and so have many others in this topic. The off topic responses have provided greater insights to things I haven’t yet thought about in regards to “living” with MSFS. It sets my expectations accordingly, so I really do appreciate how much discussion my humble rant sparked. I’d like the discussion to continue so that it helps others going forward, because not all Google searches are answered directly to someone outright asking it. That’s how I’ve found many answers to my questions on flying, auto mechanics, cooking, and many more things. I welcome any and all thoughts, as I’ve said before!

I have MSFS2020 installed and have opened it up to fly a few times. That’s why I’m asking the question.

I figure I'd be doing the same thing for quite a while, but more transitionary while developers continue to provide new and better airplanes for MSFS. But I still need to take the time to actually memorize the "MSFS way" while also enjoying the fruits of P3D. Also, I don't use hyperthreading, I run P3D on all my physical cores. I have a Ryzen 7950x3D. Because of its architecture, single core loads on v-cache cause higher temperatures, which is something that is meant to be improved on the 9000 series. If I run P3D on the non-3d cores, then temperatures get better but I lose out a little bit on the lack of v-cache (the higher clock speed makes up for this. I also suspect the temperatures in P3D vs MSFS are the result of having more addons in P3D and only running stock in MSFS).

Hey everyone, these are all real helpful responses. I think for about another year or so, I’ll end up slowly switching to MSFS. I think there’s value in keeping up with the times, and also using my higher-end pc on a platform that’s optimized well. I notice my temperatures are high on P3D and doesn’t efficiently utilize the CPU/GPU as well as MSFS does, which makes total sense. I appreciate everyone’s replies and wisdom. If there are any help guides on how to fast track the switch, that would be great! The more people engaged in what’s current, the better it is for flight simming in general 😁 blue skies, everyone

I wish I knew how to make this reply ping all 3 of you who have discussed the topic so far, but does MSFS 2020/2024 feel like a game rather than a sim? I'm much more interested in using my home 'cockpit' as a tool to learn how to fly for when I start flight training at some point. FSX and P3D seemed to have done a great job at this. Do flight dynamics and immersion feel study-able in the new sims? Also, if I haven't even really switched over to MSFS2020, do you suppose I am better off just jumping ahead to 2024, then?

Hello everyone! This is a rant, but I am looking for some advice from anyone who felt this way before completely moving to MSFS after using FSX/P3D for the last 15 years, like me. I'm having the hardest time getting myself to make the big switch from Prepar3dv5 to MSFS2020/24. I have MSFS2020 downloaded and ready to go in its out-of-the-box state, but everytime I load it up, it feels like it's just a game. I think I'm just too used to the way FSX and P3D were, in that they were just raw flight sims that cared about nothing other than flying airplanes and making the world your own. At the same time, the visuals in MSFS are simply too gorgeous to ignore and not smile at. I'm also annoyed at how different the keybinds are as compared to FSX/P3D. I also put so much money into all the addons that make P3D feel life-like, so moving away from it feels pointless, in that regard. Does anyone here resonate with what I am saying? What was the switch like for you all? I think I speak for a lot of us when I say we put a good amount of money into the prior generations of flight sims, so switching is easier said than done. I do recognize that MSFS is meant to be cheaper overall given the amount of freeware and stunning sceneries. Thanks all for reading my incoherent rant. I appreciate any and all responses!

Hello all! I built this PC for flight simming: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bv2wMV it’s a high end build that’s made me interested in learning about gaming performance and whatnot. Question I have is about RAM frequency as it relates to performance. In P3Dv5.4, I see no difference in performance between 4800 MT/s and 6000 MT/s (achieved via AMD EXPO). I don’t understand whether this is because my CPU and GPU are already fast enough to not need faster RAM, or if it’s P3D related? (Does P3D not need 6000 MT/s in order to be as fast as it can get?) Any thoughts would be helpful! I’ll certainly have more PC related flight sim questions in the near future! 🙂

All the responses cleared this up, thanks everyone!

Thanks for this, Ray! I have it loaded in the sim. In the PMDG 777, the FMC won't show runway 7/25 center, only left and right. Navigraph is fully up to date. All prior versions of VHHH are uninstalled. Any clue what might be happening?

So 50 fps at 100% utilization wouldn't translate to, say, 70 fps at a lower utilization? (forgive me, I don't really get how GPU utilization works other than it depends on the CPU's productivity).

Hello all! I built a PC in July for the first time, here’s the highlights: Ryzen 9 7950x3D MSI RTX 4080 Super Suprim X 64 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM Samsung 990 Pro 4TB PCIe 4.0 NVME Corsair RM850x (2021) This PC is a monster at gaming and anything I throw at it. But I’m wondering if it’s being sold short with the GPU, as psychotic that is of me to say. My GPU utilization averages between 70-100% in almost all circumstances with VRAM not going beyond 11GB at a max. While the VRAM usage is within its means, would I get any benefit from stepping up to a 4090 given the utilization I have now? (I’m pretty sure would have to upgrade the PSU to ATX 3.0 for this to work ([~1k wattage]). Im hoping the answer is a very confident, obvious “NOOOO” but I’m having a hard time convincing myself there wouldn’t be a material increase in performance 😆 (performance = FPS, in my opinion). Thank you everyone!

Hello Everyone, So far no issues with the sim. What I do want to know is would there be any real difference in performance if I upgraded to a 4090? I don't really see anyone compare the 4080S and the 4090 to each other for P3Dv5. If my GPU is posting high utilization, then does that meant there is headroom to be had? (The way I understand is high GPU utilization = more available from the CPU, therefore it can better utilize a more powerful GPU). Thank you,

Hello Everyone, I highly appreciate all of your inputs. I believe my problem was closely related to my overclock settings. I had my CPU's curve optimizer set to -15 on all cores and some other limits to wattage, etc. In addition to that, I used MSI Afterburner's auto-OC mode, which put my GPU's core clocks up to 2850MHz and memory at +200MHz. I reset these all to default and just did 3 long haul flights in a row without issues. I do want to be able to use my CPU and GPU to their fullest, but I think I need to go back to the drawing room before I can consider overclocking anything yet. If anyone has some basic tips on what I can expect out of my PC, I'm happy to learn! At least I am back to a safe square-one. Thank you again.

I saw this but didn't apply it since the post was from 2021. I figured by now MSI would have implemented a solution to direct 12 compatibility. Is this still a valid solution that I should follow?

I have it at the latest driver. Is there a procedural way to narrow down which driver will work for me, or is it purely trial and error? What do I do when a new driver comes out? (try it and revert back if the problem comes back?)