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Ah...that makes perfect sense. I just looked it up. My trip will have been 14 or 15 years ago (weekly to Brussels for around 2 years or so) and the extension was c 12 years ago according to Google. So the 747 I saw did indeed land on the runway before it was extended. I'll see if I can find some old press reports.
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Was that the one where excess weight had to be removed for it to be able to take off again? Maybe the runway has/had since been extended but I remember walking through the terminal and saw a 747 at a stand and said to the nearby airport security man, 'I didn't think that Birmingham was long enough to take 747's??' The security man replied, 'It isn't. This one had been diverted and was just about OK to land, but they're taking stuff out of it so it's light enough to be able to take off again.' He may have been joking, of course, but in probably hundreds of visits to the airport, it was the only time I have ever seen a 747 there !
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I can vouch for the Pyreegue EGBB. The detail when you are at a gate is stunning. This was a startup of the recently updated ATR at a stand at EGBB. I use the airport frequently as a rl passenger and it really does look like this:
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Ref the Airports, EGBB Birmingham is Pyreegue and EGCC Manchester is Inibuilds. They are both very good indeed!
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As a one-time regular passenger in this aircraft I've always had a soft spot for it. I tended to class it with some of the other similar short/medium hop turboprop which, generally, got you there efficiently but not very comfortably. This one was maybe a bit more refined but some of the Dash aircraft had the reputation of every landing being closer to a controlled crash than a landing from many regular commuters 😀 But, as I say, the ATR was/is a bit more refined than that. And I flew in them so often that I got to like the sound and dynamics of the turboprops and learnt the trick - as I spotted many of my many fellow passengers also did - of lifting myself off the seat a few centimetres just before touchdown...every little bit of cushioning, cloth or airspace, helped! And this new version of the ATR has taken me back a decade or so to those times. To me, it now looks right, sounds right and feels right 👍 Short flight EGBB Birmingham to EGCC Manchester. Both airports are 3rd Party enhanced but - as I type - I can't remember whose. I'll check in the morning! The flight was done in VR with OBS Studio capturing video from the Pimax Crystal Light. These are stills taken from that video footage. Cold and Dark at a stand at Birmingham. Very nice detailing of the pathways, barriers, etc.. I promise to check the developer and report back tomorrow! The parked and moving aircraft are using the new subscription 'live' aircraft in the splendid FSHud Air Traffic Control package: Flight plan loaded, fuel and passengers aboard, engines started and heading towards the designated taxi-way: Holding short R33, waiting for ATC clearance to take off: I It does look the part, doesn't it! Lined up and last check that all systems are OK for T/O: And we're airborne: I think the developers have made a really nice job with this update: It's a short flight and before long it's time to start configuring for landing: Two reds and two whites and the ILS telling me that glideslope has been captured is always a relief (and often a surprise!): Still looking good and time for the passengers to start lifting themselves off their seats a touch: And down!! Passengers can gently lower themselves back into their seats. A couple of 'live' tubeliners taxying out in front: And another landing crew and passengers can walk away from 😄 :
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👍😄 Great shot
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Yes - like that. How does it fly?
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Having spent too much time frustrated and unsuccessful by falling into many and most of the traps mentioned and already highlighted in this thread, I have nevertheless just finished a full short flight: cold and dark start all the way to ILS landing, taxi and shutdown. And - although I wouldn't be able to easily put my finger on what and where the ATR differences are - the whole thing felt much improved and turned out as a very, very satisfying flight. It looks good, sounds just like the real ones that I have been passenger in many times over the years - and feels just as quirky 😀 I was using FSHud air traffic control with their new 'live' traffic enhancement and was in VR, recording it 'through the lens' using OBS Studio . I will post some screen shots in the Screen Shot section of the forum when I get a chance.
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For engine start - it is mentioned above but worth emphasising that all of the covers MUST be removed or the engines will spin but NOT start. I've never tried the external walkabout removal method, but there is an innocuous button in the 'Aircraft' section of the EFB - at the bottom of the list of 'States' (Cold and Dark/Ready for Taxi/Etc) 'Remove all Covers'. Clicking this seems to do absolutely nothing...but in reality it does remove the covers and allows the engines to start.
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^^ This The 2020 version needs to remain in your sim for it to know that you qualify for the free 2024 version. But the 2020 version MUST be Disabled in your Library. The Marketplace will still recognise that you owned the 2020 version even when it is disabled in your Library.
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This is a longshot - but there is growing evidence that a recent change in MS Windows is affecting some folks in MSFS2024, especially relating to Flight Plans and ICAO retrieval. It is that MS, in a recent Windows update has started duplicating certain folders in 'the cloud' in their OneDrive app. It is meant as a helpful automatic backup of important files for us...and, by default, it includes the Documents folders... In my case, in the Leonardo Maddog MD-82, it would NOT load my flight plan and returned that the 'ICAO not in the database'. What seems to have happened was that the sim searches for the flightplan in Documents....and finds the duplicate folder on OneDrive and can't access it. I tried around 16 failed flights trying all the stuff I could think and had read about elsewhere...then started seeing occasional reference to similar issues relating to OneDrive. What solved it for me was to simply go into the Windows programs menus and disabled OneDrive. Immediately it now found the airport on the MD82! This is what Google says about it: "Yes, issues where Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS 2024) fails to find ICAO airports can occasionally be related to Windows OneDrive folder syncing, but it is typically caused by a few other well-documented database discrepancies. [1, 2, 3] Here are the most common reasons this happens and how to fix them: 1. The OneDrive/Cloud Sync Conflict If Windows OneDrive is set to actively backup your Documents folder or your user AppData directories, it can lock crucial cache or configuration files while the simulator is trying to write to them. The Fix: Go to your OneDrive settings and ensure that the simulator's folders (e.g., your Communityfolder and SceneryIndexes) are set to "Always keep on this device" or excluded from cloud syncing entirely." Might not be the answer in your case - but worth a try. If it makes no difference, you can always turn OneDrive back on.
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And - with it mysteriously fixing the flightplan import all by itself, I was able to try to remember (I've been waiting for an update for some time) how to do a cold and dark start, taxi, take-off and climb to cruise. And managed it! I'll do a full flight this evening but, with what I've seen so far, I think I'm going to be a happy chappy 👍
