francobfort

Anyone lying to my face and profiting from it, yes, is a sellout. In any event, discrediting me over name calling doesn't make the evidence any less a fact.

Multiple videos and still telling me my eyes are lying? No. I will judge on what I see. 5:05 Is the plane sweating? This is terrible. How can ObsidianAnt say "It's Never Looked This Good Before"? Sellout

Again, rain is invisible in FS2024. Before SU5, ie Xbox release

Rain lines are not visible in 2024. It is a long standing bug introduced with the Xbox release and now marked as Won't Fix. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/closing-of-bug-reports/661182

Still the same harsh brown lighting as in current FS2020. "Not representative", I know. My point is the overall lighting and clouds before SU5 was just on a different level and still not restored. You also had rain lines visible outside which was recently marked as "Won't fix". I wonder if the old global illumination system had something to do with that and was just too much for Xbox to continue using.

What about the joy stolen from simmers like me? Who is still waiting for their sim to be restored to the fidelity and quality I spent a year enjoying, experiencing and documenting before it all got taken away with SU5 and 7? Spending years filing bug reports and wishlists hoping for change only to be ignored, silenced and banned. To then have the audacity to categorize them as a grumpy simmers and thieves of joy after this? It must take a special kind of worldview to say something like that and believe it.

I'm not so sure about that. But hey, let's wait and see right. Old build and all that.

I see, so this thread is just about posting "stunnings" and "amazings" about the alpha.

Why do you guys always comb through and attack the person's posting history? Anyways, I saw that video and posted screenshots from it. Where are your screenshots showing the "better clouds than anything Asobo was able to muster before"?

Do you really think people passionate about MSFS are trolling when they expect better and posting their opinions? Okay so it wasn't "that kind" of alpha, but surely anyone pushing this out knew people will judge it as what to expect a month before release. Saying it's an old build and blaming the testers for not understanding, to me that is trolling. Anyways, if the live weather clouds are just as bad and even worse as current 2020 then why are people gushing over them in the supposed "not representative" alpha?

Content like new planes and airports I can understand was limited, but would you not provide your latest version with all new core features and data services enabled to stress test? Why give out a worse version for people to test and showcase? Where are the screenshots? I keep seeing words. Call me disillusioned but words don't mean much at this point.

Not until I see evidence of live weather and lighting that is like pre-SU5 FS2020 will I buy another MSFS.

Isn't that the point of this thread, for those that did not get access to the Alpha?

Sorry but I don't know if there is some sort of mass delusion going on but the live weather looks exactly as in current FS2020. How can people praise the same weather issues they criticized before as now being "tremendous" and "stunning" just because it has a 2024 sticker on it? For context this is from 2020 before SU5 (2021). The lighting was way more realistic and the clouds way more detailed stretching to the horizon. How can anyone say 2024 is an improvement over this?

Yes there were plenty of cherries to pick from during 2020 / 2021 Hubris...

Attacking the victims seeking asylum from the abusers. Fantastic...

As you were one of the people invited to the event you must keep in mind it was all funded thanks to us, the "critical voices".

Look I'm tired of the gaslighting and word play after 4 years. You know word not allowed well what I meant in the context of the topic. Blocked because I don't have the energy any more.

No criticism of focusing on taking photos of Bambi in the woods... that's visionary. Ask for Improved atmospheric conditions? Get out of here with your whining.

Until the global illumination and clouds match the first year of MSFS 2020 I will not buy another Microsoft Flight Simulator. Right now 2024 looks more like a reskinned 2020. In a blind test without UI I bet you would not be able to tell the difference in the air. MSFS 2024 Preview MSFS 2020 c. 2020-2021 Which version do you think comes closer to reality, which btw this previewer said was less impressive than MSFS 2024. This is the kind of clouds and lighting I was expecting for a real next generation flight simulator after 2020.

I'm not a consumer. I have a vested interest in improving the sim and calling out lies when I see it. Something more journalists and interviewers should be doing *ahem* What happened to Jorg's quote: "You are directly helping steer the ship"

Treating me like the consumer I am right. No say in the matter. Just buy or not.

They said the weather advanced to a point that they required a new title. Now it turns out advances in weather were minimal. Basically selling us the same product again with added canned stuff.

Just proving my point. You are one of the interviewers and journalists covering for them. Clearly biased. I'm not interested in marketing. I only care what we as customers are getting. Look, it's not my fault if the truth is inflammatory. They decided to play this card and now are upset when people like me call their bluff. They used dynamic simulated tornadoes as one of the reasons a new paid title was required due to advances in weather simulation. Now we are back playing semantics again on what they meant. Come on, enough is enough.