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I am wondering if PMDG has a WX Radar on their 737's. I am wanting to know, because on my plane, all the buttons for the WX Radar are there, but the mouse doesn't turn into a hand when you mouse over them.Thomas Bate

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They do not work because there is no weather radar on PMDG's aircraft yet, "yet" as we hope they will in the future but not now..[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]

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Guest Wills402

I added reality xp's weather radar so my pmdg has one. :-)Will

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Guest DVA1966

How much does the Reality XP Radar Cost?

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Guest bobsk8

Go for Active Sky Weather. The fantastic weather and cloud effects will make you wonder why you didn't buy it long ago . It comes with weather radar.

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>I am wondering if PMDG has a WX Radar on their 737's. I am>wanting to know, because on my plane, all the buttons for the>WX Radar are there, but the mouse doesn't turn into a hand>when you mouse over them.>>Thomas BateThey don't and they won't put it in the 747 either. I guess it's not a high priority for them since any weather radar system is, at this moment, a redundant piece of equipment due to the simplistic weather rendition in FS9. Poor weather (e.g wind shear, CAT, icing, Thunderstorms) has never been a true safety issue in MSFS so no true weather warning system is needed either. I understand why PMDG has given it such low priority.Bring on FS10!Regards,Sebastian

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Guest pagotan

Hi,Fortunately most advanced weather utilities do not rely at all on the MSFS weather engine. I think some users have mentioned at least two weather utilities in this thread both of which render accurate weather conditions and inject the correct weather datas into MSFS. As to WX radar integration into PMDG and other aircrafts here is a picture taken at Jakarta airport (WIII) today, from a PMDG 737-800 rendering accurate weather conditions as I could see from my window. I guess it demonstrates that integrated weather radar can be done. The real issue, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, is whether such goodie is high on the priority list of the major add-on aircraft developers.Cheers,Michaelhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/104483.jpg

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Looks more like Pablo Picasso than the WX radar found on the ng ;-) It can be done but not to PMDG standards, that has been Lefteris' remarks but we have not seen the beta yet so better not speculate until we see if this has changed. RealityXP are the only ones to have made a descent WX radar (that is the logic) all others are purely eye candy if you can call them that ;D [h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]

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Hi Randy,I have Active Sky and I'm no weather radar expert in any way but what I've seen I think it seems to do what it should and I think it's quite cool to watch it. But of course it would be even more fun if it actually made any difference in FS what weather you fly in and if you had a real reason trying to avoid real bad weather.Cheers,

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Guest mattiassjolund

Will,Can you give me all data on how to fit the wx to the PMDG panel please.... Do you have 800/900 or only 600/700???/m

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Guest pagotan

Hi Randy,I personally think Picasso's paintings are of a much higher standard than any weather rendered in any aircraft present or future but that is my personal opinion only and no offence to PMDG if they are going to develop one. As talented as the PMDG developers may be it will be very difficult to be up to Picasso's art level.Maybe I was rushing out when I posted my first message. There was no intention to imply that the program used in that picture is of high standard or of comparable standard to the expectations of the PMDG group. I am sorry if was understood it that way. It was merely to address the issue which comes up once a week at least in this forum one for all of whether a WX radar is conceivable or not. The program used may not be what PMDG is thinking about but I must say it gave a fair representation of the terrible storms we had here yesterday. Of course and I think I mentioned it in my post both Reality XP and AS2004 have the most accurate and advanced technology not only for graphic rendition but also as overall weather data analysis and compilation.Michael

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Guest mattiassjolund

CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO FIT REALITY XP TO PMDG 800/900 PANEL...Kind regards/mattias

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Hey Michael, I'm with you, just ask Lefteris about my constant naging over a WX radar ;-). It is true that it has been brought up many times and PMDG have been clear that the type of radar they would like to make is simular to Reality XP's version since it is in fact the only one that accurately pinpoints proper formations (this of course is true only if one has FULL clouds selected). It has also been mentioned that the developement of such a radar would require extended amount of time since MS has not given any indications on how to accurately produce one from the SDK so one can understand how a developer can charge full price on WX radar alone. My desire and hope is that PMDG have looked more into this, maybe a co-development with Reality XP or perhaps the new members of the PMDG team have some knowledge to lend to the proper developement for the 744. Sorry if my first reply came across the wrong way, I did not intend to poke fun at your picture or lesson the importance of the discussion.[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]

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Just out of curiosity, what are the main differences between Reality's wx radar and the wx radar included in Active Sky?

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Guest _sebastian_

>Just out of curiosity, what are the main differences between>Reality's wx radar and the wx radar included in Active Sky?In short, Reality's is a weather radar _system_, Active Sky's is not. This will probably be contested by some, and I must give it to AS that it is a good add-on they have made considering that their main goal is weather making and not weather detection. Furthermore, Reality offers an easy way to install theirs as a gauge, and I believe (don't qoute me on that) that the frame rate hit is considerably lower than that of Active Sky's. Overall I would say that the difference is comparable to that of the default MSFS737 and PMDG737. The default one is okay, good and enjoyable to fly, but it isn't really a 737 from a system point of view. It get's you from A to B in a transport jet kind of fashion and that's all. Both radars are generic though, so if you want a true Boeing overlay you have to wait for PMDG to make up their minds as they haven't went public with any of their intentions yet. As previously stated by someone in this thread no one really knows exactly what to expect in the 744. It is my opinion that MSFS have still to go some way before a generic weather radar system makes logical sense (in the meaning that it is to be used for severe weather avoidance), so the only justification I can spot to implement one in the PMDG 737/747 would be from a systems point of view, which would imply that PMDG has to go out of their way and simulate a true non-generic Boeing radar system. And THIS, at it seems, is no simple matter so I can understand if it is considered low priority by some. Still, it could be kind of cute to have one :-)Until that final day arrives, if you want to study the basics of a generic weather radar system I don't think Active Sky's radar will appeal to you that much. You should go for Reality's. If, on the other hand, you are more inclined towards the specialized Boeing overlay that nobody sells today, but hopefully will soon, I think you should give the AS version a go in the wait. AS2004 offers so much in the weather rendering department that you're bound to celebrate the whole ordeal no matter what./seb

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Hi there Seb,Thanks for your very informative answer! Maybe that wasn't clear in my previous posts, but I'm already a very happy owner of AS2004 and I consider it one of the best add-on's for FS I've spent my money on together with PMDG's 737 of course ;-) Think it's fun to have a look at the wx radar included in AS once in a while but as discussed in your post I don't see the real deal why spend money on a "real" wx radar until you will also have some real use for it. But then again, that's just my 2 cents...All the best,

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Guest pagotan

Hi Randy,Thanks for your message. I appreciate your point of view and me too I hope one day some bright mind will develop a realistic WX radar.ThanksMichael

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Whats the first thing you do before you plan your flight or jump into your plane?you check ATIS, yes you check the WEATHER!the weather is one of the most important aspects of flight and flight planning, don't know why no commercial developer has seen this as a crucial piece of information necessary for flight especially in flightsim. Its in all real live commercial jets, why not PMDG's?

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Guest pagotan

Hi Clayton,You are perfectly right, but the Wx Radar is not what will help you plan your flight. This is why AS2004 is becoming a vital tool for flight planning it gives you all necessary information to make an accurate flight plan whether it is the weather condition at the airport of departure or the winds aloft enroute and therefore the fuel projection. Combined with FSBuild you get in my opinion a fairly good flight plan / dispatch report.Hope this help.Michael

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Yup but you need a radar has weather can change enroute, especially an 8 hr flight, with a radar you can choose an alternate, just like the real thing :(

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Does someone of you guys know if there is a program somewhere that can convert PMDG's flighplans to a format AS2004 can read, ie rte=>pln?TIA,

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Hi,No, unless I missed something down the road there is no rte-->pln converter. However FSBuild does the job of converting flight plans to whatever format you need. You can input the route you programmed in the PMDG FMC in FSBuild and export it as a PLN format.Anyone has a better solution?Michael

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Guest pagotan

Clayton,Sorry if I misunderstood your original question I thought you were talking about preparing a flight plan. Of course a WX radar would help somewhat for a re-routing however you would still need some hard data which AS 2004 and also FS Flight Keeper for that matter are giving you. Is that not so also that a WX Radar will show weather events up to a certain distance in front of the plane. Would that be sufficient for your purpose? I personally doubt but that is my own opinion.Michael

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