June 16, 200718 yr This is the only way I can maintain speed whenever I fly at the equator. The only time this happens is when I'm at the equator. Now I know real pilots don't avoid this region. There has to be something I haven't tried yet. Any thoughts? Also, how long can I run like this before something really bad happens?EDIT: I re-enabled the EEC but even if I throttle to idle, the red boxes around my N1 is still there. Did I break something? Ryan GamurotLucky to live Hawai'ihttp://www.virtualpilots.org/signatures/vpa296.png Ryan Gamurot
June 16, 200718 yr Author I'm now about 10 degrees south of the equator and safely back at FL370. I ended up descending to FL185 just to maintain speed. I was thinking, if they know they'll be flying over bad weather, will pilots carry less cargo to lighten the aircraft? I was flying with a maximum ZFW. If I were to carry only passengers and their luggage (assuming 75lbs each), may this help?Also, those red boxes around my N1 are still there.Ryan GamurotLucky to live Hawai'ihttp://www.virtualpilots.org/signatures/vpa296.png Ryan Gamurot
June 16, 200718 yr Commercial Member Ryan,You using real world weather? If so I'm betting some pressure/temp values are out of range for whatever reason in the data...There is a ton of CB activity in that area (called the Intertropical Convergence Zone) but I doubt that's the issue here. Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
June 16, 200718 yr Author Yeah, I was using Active Sky. I got caught in some heavy turbulence which is also when the problem started. Since this always happens with CB activity in the ITCZ, I guess AS does something funny with the numbers.What about the conditions of the engines? If it were real life, would they still be on the wings after 15 minutes?Ryan GamurotLucky to live Hawai'ihttp://www.virtualpilots.org/signatures/vpa296.png Ryan Gamurot
June 16, 200718 yr Your OAT is way too high...in the first shot, it's hard to read, but it looks like a TAT of -7 deg C and a TAS of 675 (!!) at FL370. Looks like you're getting wacky temp data from AS...and that'd do exactly what you're seeing.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
June 16, 200718 yr By any chance, where you zooming along in accelerated mode? I've got a suspicion (but untested) that TAT will increase running FS9 at Rx4 or x8; I've ruled out ActiveSky as the culprit. I've had TAT increase on long trips then finally settle back to normal after wx update yet the previous station was reporting normal temps. I'm going to play with this one of these days but other things are higher on my list of things to do. Dan Downs KCRP
June 16, 200718 yr Author Nope, I was running at 1x speed. And it's a TAT of +7 and TAS 479 at FL256. It looks like I'm climbing in that image but only for a few seconds. Like I said, I ended up at FL185. I'm still wondering if AS is really a wacky as we all think though. I know thunderstorms do release a lot of heat into the atmosphere from all the rain. Also, thunderstorms usually form in areas of low pressure. It could be that in the ITCZ, the pressure drops so much and so much heat is released that the air density falls ridiculously low and the aircraft simply must descend. (Now I wish I paid more attention in my high school meteorology class!)Ryan GamurotLucky to live Hawai'ihttp://www.virtualpilots.org/signatures/vpa296.png Ryan Gamurot
June 17, 200718 yr I am certain you shouldn't see +7 at that altitude. Anyway, thanks for settling my hypothesis. Thunderstorms work primarily on the concept of a parcel of air being lifted to where it is warmer than surrounding air and gains positive boyancy. The heat flow is carried by the water in the lifting air that releases energy when the air parcel finally cools to below saturation and vapor turns to precipitation, releasing the heat to the much cooler upper air. The pressure drop is mostly confined to the lower levels where the storm is fed energy from; although you may see minor dips on the 500mb constant level charts (a little lower than your flight) most of the pressure drop is lower (my understanding, but I'm an engineer not a meterologist).This last time I had the high TAT the ASv6 guys suggested I increase my suppression range to 120 nm; which I've done and not had the problem reoccur but I've not reallys tested it to confirm the fix. Dan Downs KCRP
June 17, 200718 yr Author I think the SAT was -20 or somewhere around there. At FL185, I had an SAT of -12 and TAT of +12 until my airspeed started dropping again. I'm not sure how increasing my suppression range will change anything but I'll give it a try on my flight back to London tomorrow.Thanks,Ryan GamurotLucky to live Hawai'ihttp://www.virtualpilots.org/signatures/vpa296.png Ryan Gamurot
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