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The reason of this message is because some guys are flooding several e-mail addresses offering a 3CD pack with FS Freeware at $120.I presume that you, as freeware producers or users, should know this case. I think this one in particular is even worse because these guys are spamming and they have a homepage where you can see the contents of their "packs". Moreover, they don't state that they are selling freeware! Please check it out, their address is www.fsclub.com.arReading the prices I'm not afraid to promote the site!

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Just another site that needs to be shut down. :(People are taking advantage of the fact that some people make these files for no profit. :'(

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There's a few of mine as well (E-S3,P-3C,A-6E) and they don't have my permission to sell my "Freeware" aircraft! Anybody know if anything can be done about it? Rick Sasala

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They do not state the author's names in their listings, but by the size of the file I believe theyve also inlcuded one of my ATR'sThey do not provide any contact info, but there is an email address at the end of the CD content list: comandante@fsclub.com.arPaco

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>Anybody know if anything can be done about it?It may not do any good but the address www.fsclub.com.ar resolves to the ip address of:216.46.184.42and a Whois for 216.46.184.42 shows ...Internet Quality Services, Inc. (NETBLK-IQS-BLK-1) 3560 E. Russell Road Las Vegas, NV 89120 US Netname: IQS-BLK-1 Netblock: 216.46.160.0 - 216.46.191.255 Maintainer: INQU Coordinator: Pereda, Julio C. (JCP31-ARIN) hostmaster@WEBSTORAGE.COM 702 435 8233 (FAX) 702.435.8244_______________________________Good luck in resolving this problem.Brian

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Yup, this is definitely a club for low-lifes. Might I suggest that the proper owners of the pirated works drop these guys a line saying that they have been discovered, and all materials and information has been handed over to the FBI and/or Interpol for investigation of software piracy. Then I suggest you do contact these agencies and let them deal with it. Software piracy is something that those agencies take a very dim viewpoint of. Just a suggestion, and good luck! If these guys do reside in the USA, then they are relatively easily "got".Glenn

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Is it just me, or does that site look a LOT like Carenado's?Strikingly similar, I might add. So similar I'd venture a guess that they're somehow related.Wouldn't surprise me too much...

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I live in Vegas so I will be at their front door first thing Monday morning as office hours are Mon-Fri (naturally)...Rick Sasala

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Thanks Rick.......they have a few of my files on there as well. Keep us posted! I did fire off a few emails to the address listed, and they didn't bounce yet.banner1.gif

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The "Hackers" Convention is here in town (Las Vegas) this weekend. Maybe I could get some of them to do us a favor???? Rick

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Dear Sir (Owner of FS Club) It has come to my attention that you have made an unauthorized use of my copyrighted works entitled EscenariosFS2002 Scenery--NEW YORK LA GUARDIA AIRPORT (1,963,693 bytes in 1 files), file name LGA2002.zip (the "Work") in the preparation of a work derived therefrom. I have reserved all rights in the Work, which was first published in 2001 and 2002 on www.flightsim.com and www.avsim.com, and I have registered the copyright. Your work entitled and which appears on your web site at http://www.fsclub.com.ar/, is essentially identical to the Work and clearly used the Work as its basis. You neither asked for nor received permission to use the Work as the basis for nor to make or distribute copies of it. Therefore, I believe you have willfully infringed my rights under 17 USC

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>Man there are so many #### people in the FS Community :( >:-mad Well, I hardly consider individuals and groups like this to be part of the community. It is very obvious that they are working outside of our community and care nothing about holding that community together. So we force them out of the neighborhood if this is what they choose to do.

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Aaaaah I hope that site got sued soon, any lawyer here ?

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Tell them to take a look at FSPlanet as well ;) Take careMike

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Ok guys, My native language is the spanish, and I just read what a fellow simmer posted about that banner, basically they are saying that they are not selling the files wich, they state, is freeware, what they say is that they are selling is the "service" of selecting and compilating everything into three CDs. That's the most stupid Idea I've ever heard, there is a lot of people in this and other forums giving suggestios about what's of really good quality to be dowloaded, and they are not aasking for a single penny in return, I asked about the "must have files" some time ago, and had more than 40 responses and advices!! all for free.I just hope that this "disclaimer" is not a legal trick to get money out of other's work!!good Luck in the investigation!!

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sorry, but this is a lost battle, this people is based on buenos aires, argentina. in south america piracy is very very extended (about 70-80% of the total mass), and the authorities are really not very interested, this is very true. you can go to fbi interpol and they will say you the same thing. so don't waste your time with this guys.if this is not enough to you, there are a lot of legal issues, and probably their "work" is licit, not ethic, of course.they can argue, they are just doing the very same flightsim.com do, profit from a service, compilating the work of many talented (and some not too much) freeware designers, you must notice, you don't get a penny from flightsim.com with their "additional cost, first class service", and they do the same thing because while flightsim offers preferent bandwith to download "your" files, this guys do it in cd! and you did not authorize,implicit or not , to profit from your work, in none of both ways.so really although you think this must not be tolerated (me too), don't waste energy, because the chance you can win is 1/10^8, really!p.s. they offer each cd at us$ 11, not 40 (remember the devaluation),and they are not related to carenado, carenado is based on chile, and they rectified their situation, and i am not from carenado :)regards from santiago...and sorry for my bad english :(

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