April 19, 200323 yr BozhanSincere grateful thanks for this workaround, taxi is far more realistic thanks to you.Regardswings737
April 19, 200323 yr Bozhan,Thanks for all the help in getting the AirEd entries to work properly. I tried all the taxi configurtions yesterday and they worked well.However I have reservations, have you noticed that the fuel flow at idle is now much higher than before? I was getting about 1.4K pounds/hr per engine flow before, now it is over 3.0K/lbs/hr. During taxi the fuel flow is almost 10K/lbs/hr per engine. This is of course way too high.Has anyone else seen this pheonenon on their system?CheersBob
April 20, 200323 yr I had mentioned to Bozhan in an email regarding my reservations too. Of course I am the bad guy when it comes to telling those who tinker with the airfile without indepth beta testing that it could contain other issues not noticed. I very much like the idea that you can taxi with less thrust and keep it going with less thrust, but like I said before, just claiming that this does not effect anything else, is at best, wishful thinking. If he can come up with a set of numbers that work close to what we had then I will be first in line.[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. SmithSan Jose Ca[/h5][h3]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"[/h3]AMD [pink]XP[/pink] 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF3 64 MEG |WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19" Randy J Smith
April 20, 200323 yr Hi Randy,Let me first to say that Bozhan, has done a GREAT job with this little chante to the PIC aircraft.cfg file. I think as we tweak this some more it will be a great addition to this outstanding model. As simmers continue to make new aircraft and updates to some existing models, nothing can at this date compare to the PIC 767. My old buddies have done such a great job on this model that it remians at this date, long in the tooth, the very best aircraft in MS 2002.Just take a look at this forum, know rant and raves, just good simmers trying to do more with the BEST!!!!!!!! It is such a pleasure to fly this great plane.To say I am "NUT", it is a under statement, I LOVE this work.Now for Bozhan, go get it big guy, and do what ever it takes to make the taxi even better.CheersBob
April 20, 200323 yr Hi Bob,Thanks for your kind words.There is no chance to correct idle thrust fuel flow on ground, it's wrong on orginal PIC767, it's wrong on default MS 737, it's just wrong on any aircraft and there is no way to fix it. Let's say it is a MSFS bug.Otherwise, while you taxi with orginal 767PIC you have to open up the thrust levers to about ~40 N1 for stable taxi speed, and that takes ~1.8t FF per engine ( I use metric ). So if you compare this cheat to orginal PIC767 there is a little change in total fuel used while taxi. (may be none at all). Don't worry about it, enjoy yourself :-)And Randy, please let the people explore these things and enjoy yourself too.
April 21, 200323 yr I like this taxi mod very much, I have already stated this fact my friend. You seem to know what you are doing, so why not tweak this or better yet, "fine tune it" so we can have the best of both worlds here. All the PIC simmers here messing with and throwing out differn't numbers won't work because most have no clue what these do exactly when it comes to a airfile. So all I am asking is, what set of numbers so far work with a minimal effect upon the original flight dynamics? Then I would like to try it myself and yes to enjoy it too.[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. SmithSan Jose Ca[/h5][h3]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"[/h3]AMD [pink]XP[/pink] 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF3 64 MEG |WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19" Randy J Smith
April 22, 200323 yr Matthias,Tested your new 4 line table for spection 1506, worked very well, this seems to really make the taxi issue simple. Everything was easy to do.I am going to fly a round robin tomorrow KDEN to KLAX and back, will give the inflight portion a real work out.Thanks for all the efforts.Bob
April 23, 200323 yr Matthias,Works very well both on the ground and in the air. For those that were used to a sluggish taxi get ready to watch your taxi speed this really does move quite well on the ground.Thanks for both you and Bohzand's efforts this is a job well done.CheersBob :-)
April 23, 200323 yr Hi Bob and Bozhan,nice to hear that you like it! :-)Bozhan, thanks to you again, without your description of section 1506 I couldn
April 23, 200323 yr Matthias and Bozhan,Well the temptation was too much for me so I bit on this. I found the AirEd program here on the AVSIM file library but there is a later version on William M. Roth's website which also includes an updated ini file. After loading those up, I opened the taximod air file as directed in the easy to understand readme file Matthias provides. I then proceded to follow Matthias's directions exactly. After completing the last step which is to save the file, I fired FS up and went for a little test drive. After starting up the engines and doing a long taxi around the airfield, noting that idle throttles were allowing me to taxi with an increase of about 1 knot every 4 or 5 seconds. I rolled out and did a normal climb to 5000 at which time I initiated a procedure turn back to the airfield. I noticed no difference in the ability to slow the beast down and get back down to the glide slope. The landing was then completely normal with the exception of the last few seconds before turnoff. A quick shove (up and back to idle) on the throttle to kick out the autobrakes and drop the spoilers allowed me to pull back to idle and gently brake to the turnoff. It was nice to glide through the turn without having to add 50% thrust as I had become so used to.I must say that this modification works very well with no noticable effect in the air. You guys done good!Question to the real world drivers: I described a slow acceleration above at idle thrust. That was with a GRWT of about 285,000 pounds. How close is that to what you get in the real thing?
April 23, 200323 yr >I must say that this modification works very well with>no noticable effect in the air. You guys done good!Thanks, Mike! :-)>Question to the real world drivers: I described a slow>acceleration above at idle thrust. That was with a GRWT of>about 285,000 pounds. How close is that to what you get in>the real thing?Yes, would be interesting to know what acceleration and speed you get with idle thrust on the real 767 and how much it depends on weight.Regards, Matthias
April 23, 200323 yr Ah, I was waiting to see what Mr. Bevington would think about this. Must give it a run now. I see that you have stepped up in the Vatsim world there Mike.Matthias, I see that you have changed you log on name? Almost did not know it was you...[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. SmithSan Jose Ca[/h5][h3]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"[/h3]AMD [pink]XP[/pink] 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF3 64 MEG @ 215/545|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19" Randy J Smith
April 23, 200323 yr Hi Randy!>Matthias, I see that you have changed you log on name? Almost>did not know it was you...I have not changed my log on name. If you mean Matthias1975, that
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