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SF. 260 or the Cardial... Which one should I buy?????

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I have 25-30 bucks to spend (Thanks to my wife!!!!!!!!!!!) :) :)I have heard so many great things about both aircraft I reached an impass!!I love Dreamfleet and thier past work. I have the 737. But I also love what I have heard about the RealAir SF. 260........HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Which one should I get?Thanks to all who respond!!!Shane

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If you really have to choose and can't get both (!) than it's the SF260.Why? Because it has absolutely stunning and unique flight characteristics. Because it is beutifully and faithfully modeled. It has a superb VC and some unique VC features. But also becasue it is a totally different aircraft than a (any) Cessna.With the Cardinal you get a beautiful aircraft with also a superb VC and 2D cockpit that handles great and looks magnificent...but....... it is yet another Cessna and I would guess you already have a few of those ;-)Just the 2 cents of a happy owner of both aircraft :-jumpy :-outta Francois :-wave[table border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0][tr][td valign=bottom" align="center]"At home in the wild"[/td][td valign=bottom" align="center][link:avsim.com/alaska/alaska_052.htm|Don's Alaskan Bush Charters]"Beavers Lead the Way"[/td][td valign=bottom" align="center][link:www.avsim.com/vfr_center/mainpages/vfr_flights_main_page.htm]VFR Flight Center]"Looking Good Outside"[/td][/tr][tr][td valign=top" align="center]http://avsim.com/hangar/air/bfu/logo70.gif[/td][td valign="top" align="left" colspan=2]http://www.fssupport.com/images/moose2.gif[/td][tr][/table]________________________Francois A. "Navman" DumasAssociate Editor &Forums AdministratorAVSIM Online![/bemail: fdumas@avsim.com________________________

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Good point Francois :)I do have quite a few Cessnas in the hanger. I think that was one of the reasons the SF.260 grabbed my attention. It is, well, different :)Thanks for the post Francois!Anybody else out there have any opinions?Shane

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Shane,I love the Dreamfleet Archer and was planning on buying the Cardinal. But then the SF.260 came out and made my mind up for me!I'll still buy the Cardinal later but as Francois says it is just another Cessna (although probably the best yet) whereas the SF is something unique.I reckon the Dreamfleet 2D panel will be more advanced with it's stunning gauges and GPS but the SF looks and flies better than anything I have ever seen in FS.Final word: buy both! But get the SF first!Iain Spowart,Scotland.Webmaster and photographer,Scottish Claymores 2002Cheerleaders Fan Sitehttp://avsim.iainspowart.com/2002-s.jpghttp://www.claymorescheerleaders.comhttp://www.iainspowart.com

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Get the SF; it's a class apart.I think the genius of this aircraft must lie in the flight model. It actually feels like you're controlling a moving object which is subject to the laws of space and time. It gives a convincing impression of mass, inertia and movement. It's hard to explain.... but try it and you'll see what I mean. :-)

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I can guarantee you won't be disapointed with either aircraft and I do recommend getting both without any hesitation. The SF however does slightly edge out the Cardinal for that feeling of actually flying though IMO. It's very hard to describe - both are extremely good but something just feels slightly different with the SF and it's something that I've never "felt" in another FS aircraft.

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My vote goes for the SF260 without a doubt. One of the top FS aircraft I've ever come across. Plus the only one that will spin properly in FS.I have both the Cardinal and the SF260 in my hanger, and whilst the Cardinal is an exceptional piece of work, My choice goes the the 175 knot cruising SF260, a masterpeice in my opinion!Just wish there was a re-paint in UK reg scheme available!Happy flying whichever one you decide on!regardsTim

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>I can guarantee you won't be disapointed with either >aircraft and I do recommend getting both without any >hesitation. The SF however does slightly edge out the >Cardinal for that feeling of actually flying though IMO. >It's very hard to describe - both are extremely good but >something just feels slightly different with the SF and it's >something that I've never "felt" in another FS aircraft.Since I have been able to fly a real Marchetti SF260 and a number of high wing Cessna's (but not an actual Cardinal), I would say that both of these products do well in implying the "feeling" of flight within the limitations of a PC. However, as previously described, the RealAir SF260 does go beyond the normal flight envelope into the area of spins, exceptional slip control, etc. And for many............ it's just probably more fun to fly!!!! I like more horsepower, sliding canopy's for a better view, and ability to perform aerobatics! The SF260 is also plenty stable for enjoyable long cross country flight too!I do have the Dreamfleet Archer, Cardinal, and RealAir SF260. I'm not disappointed with any of them, and it just depends on the flying mood..L.Adamson

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Everyone is most kind.....but I would not want enthusiasts for the SF260 to make this an us/them situation. The Cardinal is a rather different aircraft, and though I don't personally have it, I know the quality and standard of Dreamfleets work is very high.So please, buy both!! Rob Young

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Don't worry Rob, I don't want this to turn into a flame war about "who is better".I just wanted some opinions from fellow simmers :)Shane

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Shane, these are currently my two favorite aircraft.. how choose?I think Francois hit the nail on the head.. the SF260 is something really different and lots of fun to fly. The Cardinal is the best Cessna I've got, but the previous Dreamfleet Cessna's were pretty good too.. so not as special..My suggestion, in sequence:1. SF2602. Archer3. CardinalIf you can afford it, get all three!

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Of course Shane. I understand entirely. Just wanted to keep cordial relations with our developer colleagues!Best Regards,Rob

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I don't think there is a danger here Rob... we all like the Cardinal as well.... and I think Lou knows that. Don't apologize for making a great product though ! ;-) :-outta Francois :-wave________________________Francois A. "Navman" DumasAssociate Editor &Forums AdministratorAVSIM Online!email: fdumas@avsim.com________________________

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Rob,I'll be buying the Cardinal just as soon as my credit-card recovers from the shock of buying the SF.260 as well as Emma Field, Georender 1 and the England/Scotland/Ireland meshes from Lago!I love the Archer and I reckon that the gauges/GPS etc from Dreamfleet in the Cardinal will be well worth it. It's just the fact fact that the SF.260 will spin and fly upside-down that made me buy it first! :-)Iain Spowart,Scotland.

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Francois,5 minutes difference - what took you so long? :-lolIain Spowart,Scotland.

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Howdy Shane,I will give you an easy solution, tell the wife that you absolutely must have a new weed whacker, get the credit card from her purse, perhaps when she isn't looking, then buy all three, the Archer, the Cardinal, and the SM260. Not necessarily in that order, but they are listed here by alphabetical order :)No need to go into the ethics of this situation, its simply a have to case. The price we have to pay is necessary, our punishement is deferred until she finds out, punishment is not instant so no use worrying about it. A win win situation if ever I saw one.Don't worry she will get over it, and who knows if you are really clever, it's possible no one will know!!!!!!!!!!!!!guilt will eventually subside, and this is the price we pay for simming.Sorry for not capitolizing the word guilt above, I just discovered my keyboard is going defunct.

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LMAO Ron!!!!I'm actually the one who holds all the credit cards though. We have a mutual understanding : No new aircraft = No new clothes :) lolShe is pretty cool about my flying though, she thinks "airplanes are neat". heheShane

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That's why you always have to keep a separate hidden account somewhere for just such dilemmas. I am in sort of the same boat with the 260, cardinal and emma field. Plus I figure, is my wife actually going to load up flightsim and count my airplanes? :-hah

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Good Grief man,You are in luck indeed. Who needs clothes? SIM IN THE BUF!! Life gets simpler when you have nothing to hide.A no brainer here get all 3

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