*raises hand*With clock speeds up to 3.16GHz and 6MB L2 cache, the new E8xxx series will surely help boost performance and frame rate issues. I am definitely getting a E8400, which supposedly will sport a price tag of less than $200. If there is a upgrade for my aging(?) AMD X2 4800+ then this is probably it. I have high hopes for FSX with those new CPUs and maybe I'll be finally able to run complex airliners and glass cockpit add-ons with FSX.Pat

Some info on the .45's if anyone is interested, http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html...W50aHVzaWFzdA==.45, sounds cool doesn't it. Like my stainless steel Springfield Armory 1911-A1. :-bang

I won't be first in line (I am never first in line for any computer hardware...), but I will get one fairly soon.As you probably know, the E8xxx you are getting is a dual. I am going to get a quad. This system I build will be primarily for FSX, although it will have an eye towards FS11. My 3700+ was primarily for FS9, too, but look how well it has lasted.Nice that you link to {H}. I kind of like their takes on the tech scene.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

Whats the multiplier math on the E8500 9.5 *333 or 10 *316 or ???

The Peryn quad-cores will absolutely be the best that will available for FSX at an affordable price (expect for the Quad Extremes), but who knows when they're going to be available (latest was Q1 2007). Last I heard and read in here is that the quad will definitely show some improvements over the dual-cores and I think that the comparable quad (Q9450?) for $266 would be a good alternative in the future. We'll see, if dual-cores with higher clock speeds or four-cores at lower clock speeds prevail.For a sub-$200 price tag the dual-core will perform just fine and still a very good (top five) performer. I think I read an article recently that had FSX benchmarked on the E8400 (default settings, 4GB, 8800 GT, not overclocked) with 60 fps, which is certainly not shabby at all. If I can get 20fps out of it with a complex add-on, high (not ultra) settings and some 50% traffic, I will be jumping for joy.Pat

For the E8500: 9.5 x 333

> We'll see, if>dual-cores with higher clock speeds or four-cores at lower>clock speeds prevail.I think the dual-cores given their higher clocks will give more raw fps, but the quads will give faster texture loading.That's a guess based on the fact that the texture loader is threaded whereas the actual frame rate of the sim depends more on the clock rate.That's pretty much the situation we see right now with the conroes too I suppose.Now for FS11, that's a different matter. I would bet the farm that FS11 will make even better use of many cores. RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

I hope....heheI like my AMD6000, but I wish I would have waited a while longer, of course it only cost me 170 bucks.... but I would gladly pay 300 for a new quad core.....hehIf only my wife will let me upgrade in another year hahah

I'll get an E8500 soon. My current CPU is quite fast though I figure I'll get about 30% gain @ 4.2GHz given the bigger cache.

>>If only my wife will let me upgrade in another year hahahTime to start sofa mining for extra coins...RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

Will you have memory that will handle that FSB? I think the E's n Q's are locked, no?