Please help me with blurries/shimmering issues on new computer running FS9. (Have used FSX only a little but no blurries or shimmering-only frame rate issues.)My system is an HP Quad Core Q6600 2.4ghz with 3gb physical memory, Nvidia 8500GT, Vista Home 32. Add-on programs are Just Traffic, all PMDG and Level-D 767.I know that this has been addressed from a lot of different angles-I have read many, many posts on the issue but I cannot find any solution that is even close to acceptable. I have tried turning AA on and off both on the card and within FS9, have tried turning sliders up and down in many different combinations but the only noticable changes are to frame rates, which are not a problem. No matter what resolution nor slder setting or combination of makes any difference, just continue to get jagged edges, "moving buildings and trees" as well as some mountains that pop up and down.Tried to not make this too long, so if I need to provide anything more specific, please ask. I've tried so many different combinations, I can't list them all.Thanks for any guidance.Mark

I may be able to helpits been a while with FS9First, in FS9.. its the same as FSX.. AA Unchecked, Filtering TrilinearThere is a slideer in FS9 FSX does not have:Mip Quality should be 4, no highermake sure your resolution is correct. it should be the same as the desktop and the native resolution of the monitor x32If you are using a CRT instead of LCD, make sure the SCREEN REFRESH RATE is at least 85Hz.In Nhancer, use the same setup and settings as pointed out here:http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...d=437662&page=7(scroll down to the Nhancer setup)Give that a go and see if it helpsAs for FS9 settings... try this:Save a copy of your current FS9.cfg file in a safe place. Then DELETE the FS9.cfg file being used by the sim. Start Flight Simulator. You will be starting clean with a new FS9.cfg file Let the sim boot and go to the SETTINGS area. Make the following changes: DISPLAY BUTTON: Scenery Tab: All sliders to 100% and ALL check boxes checked (water FX on 100%) Aircraft Tab: Drop down box, select HIGH, which should enable everything Weather Tab: 60 -40

Nick:Thanks for your help. I made all changes and settings recommended, including de-frag. Graphics are now great-BUT-frame rates are now terrible. Before the blurries fix, I had most, if not all, sliders and settings maxed and got steady 30-35 fps, easily. Now It swings wildly from 3-4 to 18-20 fps, so lots of stuttering. I've changed most settings one at a time to see what might be the most beneficial but it doesn't seem to matter whether maxed or minimal, the rates stay low. Any thoughts? One specific question: Is there any one (or two) setting to focus on that really have the most effect on frame rates. Thanks again.Mark

well yeah, you have a low end video card, and setting higher AA or AF levels won't help a lot....Can you go back to where you started and see if performance is the same?But a few things, yeah setting maximum density for FS9 clouds will hurt FPS, especially if you use real weather and have multiple layers of clouds. Run FS9 without clouds and with and look at the difference. OR try setting the density to medium etcAs far as texture bandwidth multiplier goes, try it at 160, and go from there if things are too blurryUnder the GRAPHICS sections, find this, and make it :WATER_EFFECTS=0For some reason on my 8xxx series card that effect has a huge affect on FPS....

What is the video memory size on this card?Make weather CLEAR SKIES.. (no clouds) and see what happens.. the same?after weather has been tested, bring traffic to ZERO and test with no traffic and no weatherI would prefer you leave -all- the settings where I posted before testing that

i have the same horrible problems in FSX!!!very bad shimmering on the ground, but in the air at FL380 it is finehave a lookhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/186791.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/186792.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/186793.jpg

Clayton Looks like you fly without AS or AA filtering. Is that true? Turning those on, either in the sim or in your card will help alot. Bob

I'm not very good with computers but more interested in aviation, so thanks to all for hanging in there and trying to help.My card has 256k dedicated and 512k overall video memory.I tested all of the various combinations of weather and traffic, (variables were zero or 75% traffic and zero or 60% weather), and used all of the combinations with the default Cessna, PMDG 737, 747-F and 1900C. All testing was done at KSEA but also looked at other less graphic intense airports but results about the same-just trying to establish a baseline, at any rate. Bottom line is that whether traffic was 75% and weather 60% or zero for both, or any where in between, the results were similar. In parenthesis are what I would call the average frame rate in any combination. PMDG 737 (15), PMDG 747-F (14), default Cessna (17-18), PMDG 1900C (13).Is there logic in that the previously I had excellent frame rates but bad blurries/shimmering and now that we have made adjustments to get great graphics, the frame rates suffer so much? Guess I'm trying to at least get a happy medium and am getting either/or and not found anything that positively impacts frame rates.Again, thanks.Mark

I think you are dealing with a few issues.. a slower video card and a system that is overrun by background activity, and/or improper setup/installtion of Windows/hardware.. The second part of that is just a guess however even with the video card you have not being the best apple in the barrel you should not be slammed the way you are after removing traffic and weather.Keep the same settings I posted above except drop traffic to 50% and make the following edits in the config fileUPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=22TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=240 TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=20 TERRAIN_AUTOGEN_DENSITY=4 TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=6.5TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=4.5 TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=1If your system wont handle that, then I can safely say you have something running in the background and/or the system is heavily taxed by poor disk fragmentation most likely a combination of both, and/or, you have hardware issues which could be memory or related BIOS settings, possibly something to do with 3GB unmatched memory sticks and not 2 or 4 match

thanks Bobi finally got it crisp and clear after some tweaking, my AF was not on in the nvidia control panel, this and some other tweaks did the trick.

Okay. Latest update. I've tried all of the recommended changes within FS9 config and through menu with no better results. I tried the MS default defrag last week and not sure that it was effective so have ordered Ultimate Defrag and will try that soon.See if this is any clue or as expected: when I cycle through alt/enter I can get the locked fps (26-which is fine with me) in a small window or large with FS menu at top-BUT with blurries (back to where we started). Or, I can cycle one more time and have no menu at top, no blurries but the 15 fps issues.I may have mis-spoke on my video card description but it actually says 256 dedicated and 1535mb partially shared.As far as other programs in the background, I used task manager and it showed no applications but under processes: 58 processes, cpu usage at 3% and physical memory at 28%. That's at start-up.Thanks again for the help.Mark

58 processes??? on WinXP?That needs to come down to 35 or lessWe went from bad graphics with high frames to good graphics and performance issuesThe combination of the card and the background I suspect is the issueclassic symptoms hereThis is a internet diagnosis however the symptoms fit the diagnosis at this point:)

Probably doesn't matter, but is Vista and not WinXP and even though a lot of processes, cpu usage stays low (I'm really out of my knowledge area here). I'll try to figure out what processes aren't needed but at first look, isn't very intuitive.Are there any settings on the Nvidia dashboard that should be addressed? I have turned off AA in FS9 and on from the control panel but it only works in FS9. (I turn it off in FS9 and on at the control panel and it stays off-so I don't know if it is ignoring other settings on the dashboard as well.)

Opppsss Senior Moment LOL I should have gone back up and looked at what OS was installedHowever it does still matter. What you have running in the background will strongly affect the sim... and since you videc card is not really that great it will affect it even moreOEM computers come loaded with all sorts of junk that bog the system down before you even start installing software like MSFS.In Vista do the following and see if there are any changes...==============================In Vista, disable the following:1. Completely shut down the Defender Program/Service2. Completely disable UAC3. Completely disable Aero4. Completely shut down the Indexing Service5. Completely shut down System Restore (optional)6. Completely shut down Automatic updates but only the GUI automatic update setting, not the service and manually go (browse) to Windows Update once a month. (optional)7. Use NOD32 as the security software, nothing else (highly recommended and does not need to be shut down)NOTE: For testing, Shut down the AV and any firewall programs.. Also, go through the TRAY by the clock and shut down anything not needed to fly.As with XP you need to go through the start registry and make sure nothing is booting not needed... like Real player, MS messenger, etc.. those do not need to start with Windows and can be launched from a shortcut on the desktop if desired. Many software packages install unneeded startup keys. Adobe Acrobat is one, useless startup that does not need to be there.. and many software packages have "automatic monthly updating' features that are also not necessary and clog up the works. You should always enter the settings for newly installed software and check to see if it has 'auto update' and 'start with windows' enabled.. if so, kill those features.===========================================Even so, 58 processes is pushing the limits on your resources and with the video card you use.. that will multiply the problemYou may want to switch Nhancer from SUPERSAMPLE 8xS to MUTLTISAMPLE 4x on both the FSX Profile and GLOBAL if you are using Nhancer. This may relieve some of the AA stress. If after you clean out the items I mentioned above you are still not seeing an improvement, something is not right... if do see marked improvements then the issue is exactly as I posted.. too many items killing resources and magnified by the card you are using