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I have the CH Pro Pedals and for some reason they are extremely sensitive in FS2004. They work just great in FSX but in FS9 it's so sensitive that your wings tilt over when making a turn. Is there a setting or anything that I need to change. I just reinstalled it and still have the same problem. I don't have the special CH software but I have the drivers and they work just over sensitive. Thanks for the help.Kevin

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Get yourself a registered version of FSUIPC and calibrate with that. Much more control.

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Thanks for the fast reply I have it but I am not exactly sure what to edit in it. Any ideas?Kevin

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Thanks for the fast reply I have it but I am not exactly sure what to edit in it. Any ideas?Kevin
Yeah I messed around with the settings in FSUIPC and couldn't figure anything out. I will continue to look into it. Kevin

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Pardon me if this is obvious, but opitions/controls/sensitivities has several axis adjustments on the screen (if you have several controllers), so you may have to use the scroll bar to see those hidden out of sight on the very bottom.Anyways, back years ago after 1st installing FS9, I wasn't used to the new menus and didn't see the pedal adjustment.

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You have three options to calibrate.1. Use the FS9 controls2. Use the CH software. You say you dont have it, but could you download it ?3. Use a registered (paid for) version of FSUIPC. The instructions are in the manual that comes with the download.Which one you choose to go for is up to you, but remember you will get best results if you avoid conflicting settings....ie use one of the above, not a combination.My preference is for FSUIPC which I find has the best control sensitivity settings. I dont use the CH software, and I have disabled the FS9 joystick controls altogether. Everything is programmed through FSUIPC.

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You have three options to calibrate.1. Use the FS9 controls2. Use the CH software. You say you dont have it, but could you download it ?3. Use a registered (paid for) version of FSUIPC. The instructions are in the manual that comes with the download.Which one you choose to go for is up to you, but remember you will get best results if you avoid conflicting settings....ie use one of the above, not a combination.My preference is for FSUIPC which I find has the best control sensitivity settings. I dont use the CH software, and I have disabled the FS9 joystick controls altogether. Everything is programmed through FSUIPC.
Ok thanks for that but it still does it even when I edit the config for FSUIPC, I read the manual and that made no sense so I messed around with it and nothing helped. I can also edit my sensitivities in FS9 and that doesn't help either. I tried the CH one and that made it not work all together. I am not really sure what to do now I am kind of stuck. I don't play it anymore since when I turn on taxiways the wings wobble ridicously. Anyone have any other ideas or help with FSUIPC?Kevin

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I have the saitek rudder pedals, with those its just plug in and play! h

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Ok thanks for that but it still does it even when I edit the config for FSUIPC, I read the manual and that made no sense so I messed around with it and nothing helped. I can also edit my sensitivities in FS9 and that doesn't help either. I tried the CH one and that made it not work all together. I am not really sure what to do now I am kind of stuck. I don't play it anymore since when I turn on taxiways the wings wobble ridicously. Anyone have any other ideas or help with FSUIPC?Kevin
kevin, what don't you understand about my advice? Do you have the registered (paid for) version of FSUIPC ?

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I have the saitek rudder pedals, with those its just plug in and play! h
And I have a Jack Russell that likes to chase its own tail.Sorry, but I just don't see how comments like that are useful to the OP.

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kevin, what don't you understand about my advice? Do you have the registered (paid for) version of FSUIPC ?
I do have a registered copy installed. I went through and tried to change up the settings but it just made it even worse. I read through the manual and made nothing out of that either. FSUIPC control panel isn't the easiest thing to use :) if you could maybe give me a tip on how I do that it would be great. I understand that you move the pedals then set it but that really helped nothing. ThanksKevin

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I do have a registered copy installed. I went through and tried to change up the settings but it just made it even worse. I read through the manual and made nothing out of that either. FSUIPC control panel isn't the easiest thing to use :) if you could maybe give me a tip on how I do that it would be great. I understand that you move the pedals then set it but that really helped nothing. ThanksKevin
Ok my advice is as follows:1. Uninstall any CH software you may have installed and reboot.2. Start FS9 and in the settings section ensure that auto-rudder is off.3. Go to FS joystick assignments and remove the assignment for rudder. yes remove it completely.4. Read the FSUIPC User guide sections on (a) Axis Assignment and b ) Joystick Calibration.5. Basically you need to assign the rudder as an axis in the axis assignment tab, and the you need to go to the Joystick calibration tab and calibrate it. This involves setting a max left and right input; setting a null zone; and setting a slope if you wish. The latter is very useful for the rudder as it will give you very little movement of the rudder when you first press the pedals, but will give you progressively more movement of rudder for more pressure on the pedals. This makes very fine adjustment of your plane during taxi/takeoff/crab approach possible and is one of the best features of FSUIPC in my opinion.

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I'd like to add one small detail here for clarification. When you are in the AXIS Assignment window of FSUIPC, click on the 'SCAN' tab until all the boxes are empty, e.g., no showing of any axis at all. Then press on the pedal to set the rudder axis, then go to the drop down window and select the proper function, hit rescan again to clear the boxes, step on the left brake pedal and use the drop down again to make the assignment, rescan button again to clear the box and repeat for the right brake pedal. then go to the AXIS calibration window. Also, if you want to save your settings for a specific AC, check that box BEFORE assigning any axis. If you leave the 'Specific aircraft' box unchecked, your settings should apply to all your aircraft.Hope this adds a little to help you set it up.Jim D.

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It's nothing to do with FSUIPC or sensitivities, just turn off Auto Rudder in your a/c settings, this will stop your wings going over on the ground :0)

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They work just great in FSX but in FS9 it's so sensitive that your wings tilt over when making a turn. Is there a setting or anything that I need to change.
Technically, the wings should bank when turning with the rudder. It has to do with the wing on the outside of the turn going faster than the wing on the inside of the turn, thus the outside wing having greater lift than the inside. So my question would be, how much rudder do you have to kick in before it makes drastic yaw movement?

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Technically, the wings should bank when turning with the rudder. It has to do with the wing on the outside of the turn going faster than the wing on the inside of the turn, thus the outside wing having greater lift than the inside. So my question would be, how much rudder do you have to kick in before it makes drastic yaw movement?
JohnHe means when taxying (if you read post #7). When airbourne of course there will be a lifting of the wing, the secondary effect of yaw is roll & visa versa, and it's quite pronounced, even in an airliner :)

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Okay well I gave up on the FSUIPC setup because that was extremely difficult and confusing. And yes auto rudder is turned off. I just want to figure out how to fix this without having to do all that saying that it should work with default install anyway. Thanks for all of your help guys.Kevin

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Okay well I gave up on the FSUIPC setup because that was extremely difficult and confusing. And yes auto rudder is turned off. I just want to figure out how to fix this without having to do all that saying that it should work with default install anyway. Thanks for all of your help guys.Kevin
Kevin,Why did you give up? It really is very easy to set it up in FSUIPC. In fact I only use FSUIPC to assign axis and buttons & key assignments for all my aircraft (except for MCP assignments for the PMDG 737). And if any aircraft has multiple paints, one only has to program one livery and then make a small adjustment in the FSUIPC.INI file and all the other paints will respond to your original assignments without having to reprogram each livery. If you want some help, PM me and I'll be more than happy to steer you in the right direction.Jim D.

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JohnHe means when taxying (if you read post #7). When airbourne of course there will be a lifting of the wing, the secondary effect of yaw is roll & visa versa, and it's quite pronounced, even in an airliner :)
I must have lost that part in the screen flood.Yeah. There should be minimal lean on the ground unless you're making a hard turn. I do know Mikko's Maule, and Aerosoft's Beaver and Piper on the tundra tire are rather wobbly. Otherwise, normal aircraft should tip to the outside of the turn and just come back to level as you straighten back out.

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I must have lost that part in the screen flood.Yeah. There should be minimal lean on the ground unless you're making a hard turn. I do know Mikko's Maule, and Aerosoft's Beaver and Piper on the tundra tire are rather wobbly. Otherwise, normal aircraft should tip to the outside of the turn and just come back to level as you straighten back out.
Yeah, every plane in mine does that and I just reinstalled FS9 because I couldn't figure out FSUIPC. Now I will try it again. But my yoke works fine and I don't wanna disable it. I wish it would just work. The strangest part about this all is that in FSX my pedals work absolutely fine.....no problems what so ever. I really don't understand. I like FS9 because so many addons though. Also in FSUIPC I tried setting the sensitivity and it made it worse so I stopped that. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

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I see you're in Greensboro. I'm in Durham and am going to try using my registered copy of FSUIPC to calibrate my Saitek AV8R stick. Did you ever get FSUIPC to do what you wanted?My rudder control is flakey with this stick and now when I start my takeoff roll the C172 drifts off to the left and into the weeds. Guess I'll try tweaking the registry, as the Saitek support guy seems to tell everybody. Then I'll try FSUIPC. Don't know if I have to turn off all assignments set up in Saitek's software as well as in FS9, but maybe I'll find out. I've been thinking about replacing my hardware with CH yoke and pedals. I'm disappointed with the way Saitek's support has dealt with other customers who had problems with Saitek hardware; otherwise I might buy Saitek's yoke and pedals. MH

Yeah, every plane in mine does that and I just reinstalled FS9 because I couldn't figure out FSUIPC. Now I will try it again. But my yoke works fine and I don't wanna disable it. I wish it would just work. The strangest part about this all is that in FSX my pedals work absolutely fine.....no problems what so ever. I really don't understand. I like FS9 because so many addons though. Also in FSUIPC I tried setting the sensitivity and it made it worse so I stopped that. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

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Hi Kevin and everyone.Post all your information, Controllers, OS, Aircraft etc. for better help.Make sure you have only one axis assigned to your Rudder control. By that it's implied that you may have a Twist in your other controller. If that is not the case make sure FSUIPC and CH manager is disabled, and go in your FS9 Menu and Increase your Null Zone to about 80 % and Decrease your sensitivity to about 20%. You can try later to change these settings to your liking but for now try that. After you do that, restart FS9, and Calibrate your Controllers within FS9. Report back for more help. TV

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I see you're in Greensboro. I'm in Durham and am going to try using my registered copy of FSUIPC to calibrate my Saitek AV8R stick. Did you ever get FSUIPC to do what you wanted?My rudder control is flakey with this stick and now when I start my takeoff roll the C172 drifts off to the left and into the weeds. Guess I'll try tweaking the registry, as the Saitek support guy seems to tell everybody. Then I'll try FSUIPC. Don't know if I have to turn off all assignments set up in Saitek's software as well as in FS9, but maybe I'll find out. I've been thinking about replacing my hardware with CH yoke and pedals. I'm disappointed with the way Saitek's support has dealt with other customers who had problems with Saitek hardware; otherwise I might buy Saitek's yoke and pedals. MH
I did just the opposite and now use the Saitek Pro-Flight yoke, 2 TQ's by Saitek and I still have my original CH TQ connected. Of course my old CH yoke was the Virtual Pilot Pro with the game port connector. It worked great but I like the feel and looks of the Saitek yoke and the cost for the Saiteks was less . Also the CH TQ is getting a little sloppy at the detents which I don't envision happening with the Saiteks. We'll see though. I need to send the CH in for repair. All controls are through FSUIPC and no problems.Jim D.

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I'll resume this exchange in the controller forum as suggested by moderator. However, what do you mean by 2 TQ's by Saitek? Not familiar with the term TQ.

I did just the opposite and now use the Saitek Pro-Flight yoke, 2 TQ's by Saitek and I still have my original CH TQ connected. Of course my old CH yoke was the Virtual Pilot Pro with the game port connector. It worked great but I like the feel and looks of the Saitek yoke and the cost for the Saiteks was less . Also the CH TQ is getting a little sloppy at the detents which I don't envision happening with the Saiteks. We'll see though. I need to send the CH in for repair. All controls are through FSUIPC and no problems.Jim D.

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Hope this helps:Try downloading this file here at avsim.fsuipc-guide-v1.zipVery simple and easy to follow tutorial on calibrating Joysticks with fsuipc.If using the Microsoft FS Menue to Set up the Joystick (rudder pedal). Increase the Null Zone a little at a time. See if this helps.Increasing the null zone will give some free play between center and the point at which the pedals take effect. Decrease the sensitivity a little at a time. If you use the fsuipc method to calibrate your joysticks, be sure to disable the joysticks in the microsoft menue.Food for thoughtJohn

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