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After exploring FSX with the default scenery, I cant't believe how much I miss the updated terrain, landclass, and environment I had in FS9. I had FSGenesis, Flight1 Ultimate Terrain installed in FS9. My home mountains and elevations were very close to real. The only problem was I just had the USA. I hear there are some great addons for scenery for the whole world. Any recommendations or suggestions?? I liked having towns and streets in the right places, as well as rivers, lakes, mountains, etc. Thanks. Tom

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After exploring FSX with the default scenery, I cant't believe how much I miss the updated terrain, landclass, and environment I had in FS9. I had FSGenesis, Flight1 Ultimate Terrain installed in FS9. My home mountains and elevations were very close to real. The only problem was I just had the USA. I hear there are some great addons for scenery for the whole world. Any recommendations or suggestions?? I liked having towns and streets in the right places, as well as rivers, lakes, mountains, etc. Thanks. Tom
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Here's some more links:Environment upgrade(REX):http://www.realenvironmentxtreme.com/(clouds, sky, water, airport textures, weather engine)Ground texture upgrade(GEX):http://gex.flight1.net/(Terrain textures, urban, rural, wilderness)Terrain data upgrade(UTX):http://www.scenerysolutions.com/ut_fsx_usa.html(Landclass, roads, rivers, lakes, coastlines)I've got both GEX and UTX for US and Canada, but since I no longer fly outside of the areas covered by FTX I do not use them, and don't even bother to install them anymore, being that FTX is so good. The nice thing about FTX is it includes textures, hand placed landclass, brand new autogen, updated roads, rivers, and coastlines, plus many other VFR and custom objects. In addition there is a full range of airport add ons available for the covered area, which are also the best you will find, and the makers of FTX have also released several payware quality airports as freeware, and have a couple hundred more freeware airstrips available. Make sure you get the free FTX Tasmania demo from their freeware page, as it the best piece of freeware ever released for FSX. That way you can see first hand, and for free, how awesome FTX really is.http://www.fullterrain.com/freeware.html

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:( Another vote for FTX here. I also have UTX for USA, Canada, and Europe as well as GEX for ground textures, and ASA + FEX for environment. These are all very good, but I too find myself flying almost exclusively in Australia thanks to FTX -- it's just so hard to go back. Photorealistic scenery just doesn't do it for me as it just looks like I'm flying over a photograph, especially at lower altitudes. FTX has brought this sim to life with it's custom and well placed autogen, custom landclass and sharp textures for each region plus a package of 250 detailed airports available for free from here http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?autocom...s&showcat=1RegardsMartin

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:( Another vote for FTX here. I also have UTX for USA, Canada, and Europe as well as GEX for ground textures, and ASA + FEX for environment. These are all very good, but I too find myself flying almost exclusively in Australia thanks to FTX -- it's just so hard to go back. Photorealistic scenery just doesn't do it for me as it just looks like I'm flying over a photograph, especially at lower altitudes. FTX has brought this sim to life with it's custom and well placed autogen, custom landclass and sharp textures for each region plus a package of 250 detailed airports available for free from here http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?autocom...s&showcat=1RegardsMartin
Thanks for the advice guys. I remember reading about FTX and it sounds great but is it available for the US? I thought it only covered Australia. Thanks again, Tom

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Thanks for the advice guys. I remember reading about FTX and it sounds great but is it available for the US? I thought it only covered Australia. Thanks again, Tom
Currently only Australia region packs are available, they are currently working on the first US region pack. :)

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Currently only Australia region packs are available, they are currently working on the first US region pack. :)
I saw somewhere on their website that the first region pack for North America will be based on the Vancouver, US Pacific Region area. Its called USA Blue. Given how large and diverse the continent is I'm thinking that this project could take at least a few years to complete. I haven't tried FTX yet but based on all the reviews I selected AU Blue. I'll take to the air on Saturday and hopefully it will live up to all the great reviews I've come across.

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I saw somewhere on their website that the first region pack for North America will be based on the Vancouver, US Pacific Region area. Its called USA Blue. Given how large and diverse the continent is I'm thinking that this project could take at least a few years to complete. I haven't tried FTX yet but based on all the reviews I selected AU Blue. I'll take to the air on Saturday and hopefully it will live up to all the great reviews I've come across.
Take off from Canberra our Launceston for some good scenery areas. There is also a 20m mesh available for Victoria, though a bit spendy. You can get it here:http://www.simpilotexperience.com/They will probably end up doing selected regions around the world rather than trying to cover all of the US. Florida may be the next US reagion to get the FTX treatment.

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After exploring FSX with the default scenery, I cant't believe how much I miss the updated terrain, landclass, and environment I had in FS9. I had FSGenesis, Flight1 Ultimate Terrain installed in FS9. My home mountains and elevations were very close to real. The only problem was I just had the USA. I hear there are some great addons for scenery for the whole world. Any recommendations or suggestions?? I liked having towns and streets in the right places, as well as rivers, lakes, mountains, etc. Thanks. Tom
I have posted this link in another thread so apologies mods, but on reflection, it would probably be better here... This will leave FS9 for dead, you won't look back... Early beta shots though,Early Beta FTX Pacific NW shotsCheers,

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I have posted this link in another thread so apologies mods, but on reflection, it would probably be better here... This will leave FS9 for dead, you won't look back... Early beta shots though,Early Beta FTX Pacific NW shotsCheers,
downtown Seattle looks stunning! I hope they do Vancouver and Victoria as well. Based on NA Blue, this is going to take a long time though but oh man...its gorgeous!

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How do these enviroment packages work, are they mutually exclusive?I've allready got UTX Europe and it seems very good, but that FS global 2008 looks tempting. Does one install and run these things together, or does the one replace the other, or do I merely juggle them up and down the preference order in the scenry options box?

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How do these enviroment packages work, are they mutually exclusive?I've allready got UTX Europe and it seems very good, but that FS global 2008 looks tempting. Does one install and run these things together, or does the one replace the other, or do I merely juggle them up and down the preference order in the scenry options box?
Is FTX just for mesh, or are textures, landclass, etc. included? Thanks. Tom

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@ 56RAF_Seeker, each add on is for a different set of data. UTX provides data on roads, rivers, coastlines, lakes, and urban landclass. So UTX is simply a package of data that tells FSX where to display what. FS Global is a Mesh product only. Mesh is your elevation data, so installing FS Global will only improve the resolution of elevation data, which means a lot of the rounded mountain tops will take on their correct shape and appearance. Other add ons like GEX are texture replacements, so GEX will replace your terrain textures with new ones. While each of those add ons does somethibng different, there is another add on which combines these elements, which is FTX. See below. @ Tom, FTX is called full terrain experience for a reason, as it's the full package. You get hand placed landclass, new landclass textures, new autogen trees and buildings specific to the textures, coastlines, roads, rivers, lakes, custom VFR objects, and mesh. With the australia coverage the mesh is provided as freeware, though it has been anounced that the PNW package will include a 20m or better mesh in the package.

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@ 56RAF_Seeker, each add on is for a different set of data. UTX provides data on roads, rivers, coastlines, lakes, and urban landclass. So UTX is simply a package of data that tells FSX where to display what. FS Global is a Mesh product only. Mesh is your elevation data, so installing FS Global will only improve the resolution of elevation data, which means a lot of the rounded mountain tops will take on their correct shape and appearance. Other add ons like GEX are texture replacements, so GEX will replace your terrain textures with new ones. While each of those add ons does somethibng different, there is another add on which combines these elements, which is FTX. See below. @ Tom, FTX is called full terrain experience for a reason, as it's the full package. You get hand placed landclass, new landclass textures, new autogen trees and buildings specific to the textures, coastlines, roads, rivers, lakes, custom VFR objects, and mesh. With the australia coverage the mesh is provided as freeware, though it has been anounced that the PNW package will include a 20m or better mesh in the package.
thats something that I've been wondering about...is there a visual difference between 76, 32 and 20m? As in does halving those numbers double how well the terrain is displayed?

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@ 56RAF_Seeker, each add on is for a different set of data. UTX provides data on roads, rivers, coastlines, lakes, and urban landclass. So UTX is simply a package of data that tells FSX where to display what. FS Global is a Mesh product only. Mesh is your elevation data, so installing FS Global will only improve the resolution of elevation data, which means a lot of the rounded mountain tops will take on their correct shape and appearance. Other add ons like GEX are texture replacements, so GEX will replace your terrain textures with new ones. While each of those add ons does somethibng different, there is another add on which combines these elements, which is FTX. See below. @ Tom, FTX is called full terrain experience for a reason, as it's the full package. You get hand placed landclass, new landclass textures, new autogen trees and buildings specific to the textures, coastlines, roads, rivers, lakes, custom VFR objects, and mesh. With the australia coverage the mesh is provided as freeware, though it has been anounced that the PNW package will include a 20m or better mesh in the package.
Thanks. It seems like it will be the answer to all our scenery needs, but any idea how long to do the whole USA? FSX is already over two years old. Tom

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Thanks. It seems like it will be the answer to all our scenery needs, but any idea how long to do the whole USA? FSX is already over two years old. Tom
Not sure about your correlation between the ages of FTX and FsX, but I am pretty sure this question was answered this way in the Orbx forum. As I understand it, it would be dependent upon the level of adoption of FTX's NA Blue product. The more sales of that product will see a greater investment in the remainder of the country (I would guess).I do believe that at this point, the age of FsX is irrelevant as there is no more Aces and MS have not indicated where the franchise will head to next, save some blandly worded PR speak. FsX will be with us for quite a while more IMHO.Cheers,

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Not sure about your correlation between the ages of FTX and FsX, but I am pretty sure this question was answered this way in the Orbx forum. As I understand it, it would be dependent upon the level of adoption of FTX's NA Blue product. The more sales of that product will see a greater investment in the remainder of the country (I would guess).I do believe that at this point, the age of FsX is irrelevant as there is no more Aces and MS have not indicated where the franchise will head to next, save some blandly worded PR speak. FsX will be with us for quite a while more IMHO.Cheers,
Sorry Chris. I guess I didn't make my point clear enough. I meant that since it will probably take a long time to develop scenery for the whole usa let alone the rest of the world, I just wondered if FSX would be upgraded to a new version in the near future while the development of FTX was still in progress, would FTX still be compatible with the next version? Thanks. Tom

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downtown Seattle looks stunning! I hope they do Vancouver and Victoria as well. Based on NA Blue, this is going to take a long time though but oh man...its gorgeous!
As I understand it, they are planning seattle, and perhaps portland. they are however, going to make their product compatible with the already available vancouver X (payware fsaddon) and Victoria X (freeware), as Holger Sandmann is involved in all three products it should be fairly seamless (and it was mentioned that Jon Patch the other author of Vancouver and Victoria is involved as a beta tester for FTX:PNW)

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Sorry Chris. I guess I didn't make my point clear enough. I meant that since it will probably take a long time to develop scenery for the whole usa let alone the rest of the world, I just wondered if FSX would be upgraded to a new version in the near future while the development of FTX was still in progress, would FTX still be compatible with the next version? Thanks. Tom
Hi Tom,I believe that any theorising about a VerNext of FsX is moot at this moment. From my reading many FsX 3rd party developers are hailing the present as an unprecedented period of stability and an opportunity to develop products for the longer term. Given that the statements emanating from Orbx seems to suggest a bumper set of releases are planned for this year, I would venture that if the demand for FTX USABlue is high, they would ramp up production... However I am not part of the organisation and will defer to them to clarify their position.Cheers and all the best,

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Maxter is almost right :)Yes, we have plans to do as much of the USA and Canada as we can, and Alaska is the next cab off the rank after PNW. Beyond that we are thinking perhaps Florida or somewhere on the east coast, but as Maxter said making FTX is a pretty expensive process and we will be dependant on the adoption rate of PNW and Alaska to ensure we have the cash flow to continue development of the USA/Canada series. Orbx is a little bitty company and as such we can't bite off more than we can chew :)Quick answer is we'd love to do the whole world, and we may get around to it someday, but it's a very labour intensive process.With regard to FSnext - who knows? We're bitterly disappointed about the ACES closure and the cloud hanging over the franchise, but whatever form the next iteration of FS transpires, we will of course be there and will port FTX to comply with the new SDKs. But that's all a moot point. We envisage a long life for FSX in the current circumstances and have no plans to move to other platforms at this stage.

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Maxter is almost right :)Yes, we have plans to do as much of the USA and Canada as we can, and Alaska is the next cab off the rank after PNW. Beyond that we are thinking perhaps Florida or somewhere on the east coast, but as Maxter said making FTX is a pretty expensive process and we will be dependant on the adoption rate of PNW and Alaska to ensure we have the cash flow to continue development of the USA/Canada series. Orbx is a little bitty company and as such we can't bite off more than we can chew :)Quick answer is we'd love to do the whole world, and we may get around to it someday, but it's a very labour intensive process.With regard to FSnext - who knows? We're bitterly disappointed about the ACES closure and the cloud hanging over the franchise, but whatever form the next iteration of FS transpires, we will of course be there and will port FTX to comply with the new SDKs. But that's all a moot point. We envisage a long life for FSX in the current circumstances and have no plans to move to other platforms at this stage.
I guess covering more of the US makes business sense but I'd love to see Mexico done properly. Its beautiful, geographically diverse and there's a serious lack of good products for that region (South America is another "forgotten" continent). I'll look forward to PNW, Alaska I'm not too sure about but you guys are wizards with this stuff so I'm excited for whatevers coming next :)

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Maxter is almost right :)Yes, we have plans to do as much of the USA and Canada as we can, and Alaska is the next cab off the rank after PNW. Beyond that we are thinking perhaps Florida or somewhere on the east coast, but as Maxter said making FTX is a pretty expensive process and we will be dependant on the adoption rate of PNW and Alaska to ensure we have the cash flow to continue development of the USA/Canada series. Orbx is a little bitty company and as such we can't bite off more than we can chew :)Quick answer is we'd love to do the whole world, and we may get around to it someday, but it's a very labour intensive process.With regard to FSnext - who knows? We're bitterly disappointed about the ACES closure and the cloud hanging over the franchise, but whatever form the next iteration of FS transpires, we will of course be there and will port FTX to comply with the new SDKs. But that's all a moot point. We envisage a long life for FSX in the current circumstances and have no plans to move to other platforms at this stage.
Thanks for the info, John. Forgive me, but I am unfamiliar with the "franchise thing". What do you mean about the ACES closure? Just curious. Tom

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Thanks for the info, John. Forgive me, but I am unfamiliar with the "franchise thing". What do you mean about the ACES closure? Just curious. Tom
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