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I'm going to try to appeal to your higher senses once again. I just installed 9Dragons Kai Tak freeware. It's pretty darn nice. Now I need a way to guide myself and my PMDG 747-400, electronically to a landing. I am running FS9 and need to get the IGS 13 into my Navigraph FMC database. I found a nice setup for FSX but no FS9. I also have a Level D 767 and just put the Just Flight 777 in too. If you can help me with any of these aircraft I'd be very appreciative. Obviously there are many of you flying this approach. HELP PLEASE!Thanks.Bruce Jacobs

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I'm going to try to appeal to your higher senses once again. I just installed 9Dragons Kai Tak freeware. It's pretty darn nice. Now I need a way to guide myself and my PMDG 747-400, electronically to a landing. I am running FS9 and need to get the IGS 13 into my Navigraph FMC database. I found a nice setup for FSX but no FS9. I also have a Level D 767 and just put the Just Flight 777 in too. If you can help me with any of these aircraft I'd be very appreciative. Obviously there are many of you flying this approach. HELP PLEASE!Thanks.Bruce Jacobs
Hi Bruce, go into the goodies section of 9Dragons and you will find a sids star file designed for the the PMDG 747-400ALSO you will need to add these two lines to Your Navdata wpNavApt. Do this and your ready to go.Hong Kong VHHX31 10930316 22.304401 114.216064109.9031600015Hong Kong VHHX13 10930136 22.324850 114.193176111.9013600015Cheers Greg YSSY

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Greg, sorry I spoke too soon. Where exactly do I find the files with the Kai Tak SIDS and STARS? Thanks againBruce Jacobsboeingflir@comcast.net

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Greg, sorry I spoke too soon. Where exactly do I find the files with the Kai Tak SIDS and STARS? Thanks againBruce Jacobsboeingflir@comcast.net
Bruce, I suggest you read the manual that comes with 9 Dragons. But you will find the file in your addon scenery in flight sim. Cheers Greg YSSY

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OK Vaughn I see your point. While getting back to this thread I found another thread posted by BlakeWilliams yesterday titled "Don't Yell At Me" regarding my problem. We couldn't find the airports.dat folder for one thing and hopskip explains in the thread where it is. I'll see if I can find it. He also provides a link that gives a step by step approach to getting this thing set up with another link to the SIDs and STARS. Does this make sense to you?Do you have any other suggestions? I ended up with FlyTampa's beautiful scenery and am flying the PMDG 747-400 on FS9. Like I said our biggest problem was finding this airports.dat folder. Never did actually. Any help and exactly where to find the locations and folders to enter the text (my "tech" knows how) will be appreciated. I'm tired of seeing "Not In Database."ThanksBruceboeingflir Yesterday, 08:29 AMPost #3MemberGroup: MembersPosts: 488Joined: 2-May 02Member No.: 101,761Take a look at:http://hk.vatsea.net/fns/080705/?go=dlYou will need to add some text to a file called wpNacAPT.txt in the Nav data page. (usually FMCWP) and also in the airports.dat file in the same folder.This isn't SIDs and STARs however, just the location of the airport.These (SID/STAR/APP) should be the latest version (v9) from here:http://www.navdata.at/php/sidstar/dl_list....G&icao=VHHXTrent

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Bruce,First lets see where your files are located. I am assuming FS9.Do you have these paths on your PC?C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\PMDG\SIDSTARSC:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\fmcwp\NavDataIf not, stop here and let me know.Information you asked for, where is airports.dat?C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\fmcwp\NavDataInside this "NavData" folder, find WpNavApt.txt and airports.dat files.Do you have these?If you do we will do the next steps, editing the files... let me know.Next ...Use Notepad (Microsoft plain text editor) to open up this file : WpNavApt.txtScroll down (or search for) "HONG KONG" inside this file.You will see four HONG KONG lines like this:HONG KONG VHHH07L12468073 22.310917 113.897967111.1007300022HONG KONG VHHH07R12468073 22.296675 113.899444109.3007300027HONG KONG VHHH25L12468253 22.307431 113.932822108.9025300027HONG KONG VHHH25R12468253 22.321122 113.929639110.9025300022** notice how all the columns (decimal points) are nicely lined up in YOUR FILE?** Spaces (not tabs) are used to line up these columns in these files.** They may not be perfectly lined up here in these posts.** Use your file alignment as a guide.** If you have a problem let me know.** When you finish editing (cut/paste) from this post all the columns may not line up!<<<<<<**************************Notes:Alignmen of data examples:Filename: airports.dat**********************List of airports and airport coordinates listed by ascending latitude.....,....1....,....2....,KCRP 27.770361 -97.501222IIII dd.dddddd ddd.dddddd IIII COL 1-4 ICAO code for airport dd.dddddd COL 5-14 Latitude degrees (-Lat for South) ddd.dddddd COL 15-25 Longitude degrees (-Lon for West) (Note: FAA defines airport location as the centroid of the area defined by the runway edges, and calls it the Airport Reference Point)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Filename: wpNavAPT.txtList of runways and instrument approach data containing runway location, lenght, width, elevation and ILS/LDA course/frequency.....,....1....,....2....,....3....,....4....,....5....,....6....,....7....,....8CORPUS CHRISTI INTL KCRP13 07508130 27.776997 -97.513328110.3012900043CORPUS CHRISTI INTL KCRP17 06080173 27.779472 -97.496106000.0017300041CORPUS CHRISTI INTL KCRP31 07508310 27.762189 -97.497206110.3030900044CORPUS CHRISTI INTL KCRP35 06080353 27.762925 -97.496031109.5035200040LAMBERT-ST LOUIS INTERNAKSTL12L09003121 38.751781 -90.366294108.9012200528LAMBERT-ST LOUIS INTERNAKSTL12L09003121 38.751781 -90.366294110.1012200528NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIrrOlllllbbb dd.dddddd ddd.ddddddfff.ffccceeeee NNNN Col 1-24 Airport Name IIII Col 25-28 ICAO-code for airport rr Col 29-30 Runway Number (01-36) O Col 31 Runway Order (L C R) llllll Col 32-36 Runway Length (ft) bbb Col 37-39 Runway Bearing (mag) dd.dddddd Col 41-49 Latitude degrees (-Lat for South Col 40)ddd.dddddd Col 50-60 Longitude degrees (-Lon for West) Decimal at Col 64 fff.ff Col 61-66 ILS/LDA frequency (LOC MHz) ccc Col 67-69 LOC course (mag) eeeee Col 70-74 Runway Elevation (ft MSL) Note: The PMDG FMC will select the first record only if there is more than one record for the runway. This is a problem at locations where there is both an ILS and LDA at same runway, if you want the ILS but the LDA is first (Navigraph is aware of this and usually sorts the ILS first). See KSTL 12L above for example (108.90 MHz is the ILS) Note: The PMDG FMC uses the above information to setup the display, not the MSFS data. This results in variations between scenery and panel displayed information for runway elevation and LOC course.** The end of example>>>>>>Now, cut and paste the next two lines under the 4 HONG KONG lines:All columns in the file should line up! did they?.HONG KONG-OLD VHHX13 10930136 22.326667 114.191667111.9008800015HONG KONG-OLD VHHX31 10930316 22.309570 114.209178109.9031600015**************************************************************************When you are done it will look basically like but all columns properly lined up:**************************************************************************HONG KONG VHHH07L12468073 22.310917 113.897967111.1007300022HONG KONG VHHH07R12468073 22.296675 113.899444109.3007300027HONG KONG VHHH25L12468253 22.307431 113.932822108.9025300027HONG KONG VHHH25R12468253 22.321122 113.929639110.9025300022HONG KONG-OLD VHHX13 10930136 22.326667 114.191667111.9008800015HONG KONG-OLD VHHX31 10930316 22.309570 114.209178109.9031600015Save the file:Exit Notepad**********Use notepad to open upAirports.dat file*************************Scroll down (search for) VHHHI have shown 3 lines of the file here. You will see the same thing when you find VHHH:VARK 22.306695 70.779361VHHH 22.308889 113.914722VABO 22.330000 73.218861After VHHH cut and paste this next line:***************************************VHHX 22.316667 114.203333*************************Now it will look like this:***************************VARK 22.306695 70.779361VHHH 22.308889 113.914722VHHX 22.316667 114.203333VABO 22.330000 73.218861Make sure the columns line up .. using spaces.Columns line up if the decimal points line up .. know what I meam?Save the file:Exit Notepad<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Now for the SID STAR file:VHHX.txtDo you have one yet?If so put it inside this folder:C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\PMDG\SIDSTARSYour Scenery file should have already put VHHX (airport AFCAD) in place.Now start MSFS9Load the default CessnaGo to Airport VHHXDid you go there?

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Thank you Vaughan. This is the most detailed and doable explanation that I've seen. I am off to work right now, but will start searching for these folders and files tomorrow and let you know what I find. I also forgot about starting up from the default Cessna. This looks promising.Thanks again.Bruce

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OK. When I did the search for C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\fmcwp\NavData I came up with a folder named NAVDATA. In that folder was this: A folder named NAVData-Backup, A folder SIDSTARS, a globe icon that says airports, then 6 files 1)cycle_info 2)fmc_ident 3)wpNavAID 4)wpNavAPT 5)wpNavFIX 6)wpNavRTE. I just tried the globe that said airport. It was a Nero Showtime Player. What's that doing there? Cycle Info is airac 0902. fmc ident again is airac 0902. WpNavAID is the Navigraph database list. wpAPT is the Navigraph airport database list. etc, etc. I do not see a airport.datThe search for C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\PMDG\SIDSTARS revealed the SIdSTARS folder.There is a SIDSTARS folder with all the airport files. Oddly they seem to be for Airac cycle 0901 and my tech inserted VHHX data from a file from one of the forums.It's looking like we may have to start from scratch. I have not installed the new Airac cycle so maybe that will be the next step. I am still on 0902.Let me know how to proceed. I did observe that before we inserted anything that there was no airport.dat folder that we could find.Bruce

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Bruce,Late edit: Always backup your files/folders prior to any edits or deletes.Go to :C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9In that folder you will see a folder:fmcwpDelete fmcwpGo to: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\PMDGIn that folder you will see a folder:SIDSTARSDelete folder SIDSTARSDownload new Navigraph cycle 0904.Now install Navigraph NavData Cycle 0904Start over with the instructions for VHHX.Edit:I made an error in the instructions in original post..I edited and corrected this one.If you did original deletes let me know.

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Roger that Vaughan. I'll work on it today and let you know. I think that I'll be flying the IGS 13 today.Bruce

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OK. I did everything that you said: deleted the FMCWP file and the SIDSTARS folder. I installed 0904 and when I open the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\FMCWP\NavData folder I have the same files that I mentioned in my last post. No airport.dat

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Check to make sure that your folder options show all extensions. Maybe it is hiding system files and data files.

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Dan, thanks. That helped partially. The globe icon that I mentioned in my last post where I listed the files is now labled airports.datWhen I open it I get this nero show time 3 player and a window that says Cannot play this media file. This file is either corrupt or the application does not support....

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Dan, thanks. That helped partially. The globe icon that I mentioned in my last post where I listed the files is now labled airports.datWhen I open it I get this nero show time 3 player and a window that says Cannot play this media file. This file is either corrupt or the application does not support....
Try:Mouse, Right click on the airports.datselect "open with"select "Notepad"

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Yes!! Thanks you. Gentleman, try to understand; I have been a Mac user my whole computer life. This just isn't part of the program on a Mac. You would have to be a serious tech to dig into things this way and open system files. I've learned quite a bit in the last few days. I'll muddle along with this and I'm sure that I'll get it done by and by.BrucePSWhat the hell is this Nero Player and why is it in there hiding what I really want?

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Nero player is a audio application... I got their stuff too. It's okay, good enought for my simple needs.You are muddling along just fine.. I check the 'always open with' box so the .dat files are always opened with your favorite text editor (I use UltraEdit, but notepad or wordpad are fine for simple tasks). Windows keeps a database of associations between file extensions and applications, apparently it thinks Nero is associated with .dat. Simple as that. Just change the association by checking the box.

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Life has been good so far. I've gotten through all the steps up to Vaughan's VHHX.txt into the SIDSTARS folder. Where do I find the VHHX.txt file?

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OK. I found one and I put it in the SIDSTARS folder, but it went to the bottom of the page; last item.Once again I panicked. I closed the window and reopened it and VHHX.txt was sequenced properly.

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OK. I found one and I put it in the SIDSTARS folder, but it went to the bottom of the page; last item.Once again I panicked. I closed the window and reopened it and VHHX.txt was sequenced properly.
I now know why you initially had problems ... Mac user!No problem ... but it would be good to mention on any forum posts you do (MAC trained).Right, the new files go to bottom first, later sorted properly as you found.Keep going ... you are almost on the "curved" approach into VHHX ... you will love it!

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Finally I've got what I thought was everything in. VHHX is in the database. There don't seem to be any SIDS or STARS. There is the IGS 13 with CH, GOLF, OM13, AND MM13, AND RWY 13. GREAT! No SIDS or STARS though.Here's the VHHX.txt file that I put in the SIDSTARS folder: WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG?// Kai Tak VHHX procedures for the PMDG series... V2.0 by Vlad// Questions or comments? email to vlad_888@hotmail.com// See readme for more information FIXESFIX KL LATLON N 22 20.08 E 114 12.26FIX RW LATLON N 22 19.64 E 114 11.43FIX SC LATLON N 22 19.18 E 114 07.48FIX AKERO COLOCATED CH 132 199.0FIX ALPHA COLOCATED CH 089 62.0FIX CHARLIE COLOCATED CH 205 60.0FIX DELTA COLOCATED CH 154 60.0FIX GOLF COLOCATED CH 270 7.0FIX IHK COLOCATED TH 316 6.0FIX WHISKEY COLOCATED IHK 136 23.0FIX JULIETT COLOCATED CH 077 26.0FIX KILOG COLOCATED WHISKEY 136 14.5FIX LIMA COLOCATED IHK 136 15.0FIX MM13 COLOCATED KL 268 2.2FIX MM31 COLOCATED TH 316 3.9FIX OM13 COLOCATED KL 268 5.8FIX OM31 COLOCATED TH 316 0.0FIX OSCAR COLOCATED CH 154 25.0ENDFIXESRNWSRNW 13RNW 31ENDRNWSSIDSSID AKERO1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 136 UNTIL RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY AKEROSID AKERO1B RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 UNTIL RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY AKEROSID AKERO2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OSCAR AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 UNTIL RADIAL 117 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY AKEROSID AKERO2D RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OSCAR AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 UNTIL RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH FIX OVERFLY AKEROSID BEKOL1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY LIMA AT OR BELOW 7000 FIX JULIETT 7000 NAVAID OVERFLY BEKOL 11800 SID BEKOL2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 TRK 154 UNTIL 9000 NAVAID OVERFLY TH 11000 NAVAID OVERFLY BEKOL 11800SID DAGON1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 UNTIL RADIAL 199 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY DAGONSID DAGON1B RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 UNTIL RADIAL 214 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY DAGONSID DAGON2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY DAGONSID DAGON2D RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY DAGONSID DOTMI1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 UNTIL RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH TRK 104 UNTIL 100 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY DOTMISID DOTMI2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OSCAR AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 UNTIL RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH TRK 104 UNTIL 100 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY DOTMISID DOVAR1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 UNTIL RADIAL 132 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY DOVARSID DOVAR1B RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 180 UNTIL RADIAL 154 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY DOVARSID DOVAR2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY DOVARSID DOVAR2D RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY DOVARSID ELATO1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 090 UNTIL RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY ELATOSID ELATO2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OSCAR AT OR BELOW 9000 TRK 090 UNTIL RADIAL 104 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY ELATOSID ENVAR1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 FIX KILOG AT OR BELOW 14000 NAVAID OVERFLY ENVAR SID ENVAR2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 FIX OSCAR AT OR BELOW 9000 NAVAID OVERFLY ENVARSID IDOSI1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 UNTIL RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY IDOSISID IDOSI1B RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 UNTIL RADIAL 205 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY IDOSISID IDOSI2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY IDOSISID IDOSI2D RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY IDOSISID ISBAN1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 UNTIL RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY ISBANSID ISBAN1B RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 UNTIL RADIAL 175 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY ISBANSID ISBAN2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY ISBANSID ISBAN2D RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 NAVAID OVERFLY ISBANSID SIKOU1A RNW 13 NAVAID OVERFLY TH FIX OVERFLY WHISKEY AT OR BELOW 7000 TRK 235 UNTIL RADIAL 190 FROM NAVAID CH TRK 190 UNTIL RADIAL 280 TO NAVAID SIKOU NAVAID OVERFLY SIKOUSID SIKOU2C RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 TRK 214 UNTIL RADIAL 280 TO NAVAID SIKOU NAVAID OVERFLY SIKOUSID SIKOU2E RNW 31 FIX OVERFLY RW FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 251 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH NAVAID OVERFLY CH AT OR ABOVE 3000 TRK 190 UNTIL RADIAL 280 TO NAVAID SIKOU NAVAID OVERFLY SIKOUENDSIDSSTARSENDSTARSAPPROACHESAPPROACH IGS13 HOLD AT NAVAID CH LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 270 ALT 8000 FIX OVERFLY GOLF 6000 TRK 045 UNTIL RADIAL 088 TO FIX KL FIX OM13 FIX MM13 RNW 13 HOLD AT NAVAID TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 4500 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION DOVAR NAVAID DOVAR FIX DELTA AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000 TRANSITION IDOSI NAVAID IDOSI FIX CHARLIE AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000 TRANSITION MAGOG NAVAID MAGOG FIX ALPHA AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000 TRANSITION TAMOT NAVAID TAMOT 15000 NAVAID MIKE FIX CHARLIE AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000APPROACH ILS31 HOLD AT NAVAID TH RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 316 ALT 2000 SPEED 160 FIX MM31 RNW 31 DIRECT FIX OVERFLY SC TRK 255 UNTIL RADIAL 031 FROM NAVAID CH HOLD AT NAVAID CH LEFT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 270 ALT 4500 LEGTIME 1 TRANSITION DOVAR NAVAID DOVAR FIX DELTA AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000 TRANSITION IDOSI NAVAID IDOSI FIX CHARLIE AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000 TRANSITION MAGOG NAVAID MAGOG FIX ALPHA AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000 TRANSITION TAMOT NAVAID TAMOT 15000 NAVAID MIKE FIX CHARLIE AT OR BELOW 24000 AT OR ABOVE 15000ENDAPPROACHESGATESGATE 1 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.6GATE 2 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.6GATE 3 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 4 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 5 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 6 N 22 19.7 E 114 11.7GATE 7 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 8 N 22 19.8 E 114 11.8GATE 15NW N 22 19.5 E 114 11.7GATE 15SE N 22 19.5 E 114 11.7GATE 16NW N 22 19.6 E 114 11.7GATE 16SE N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 17NW N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 17SE N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 18NW N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 18SE N 22 19.6 E 114 11.8GATE 19NW N 22 19.7 E 114 11.8GATE 19SE N 22 19.7 E 114 11.9GATE 20NW N 22 19.7 E 114 11.9GATE 20SE N 22 19.7 E 114 11.9GATE 21 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 22 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 23 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 24 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 25 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 26 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 27 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.8GATE 28 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.8GATE 29 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.9GATE 30 N 22 19.5 E 114 11.9GATE 31 N 22 19.6 E 114 11.9GATE 32 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.0GATE 33 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.9GATE 34 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.9GATE 35 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.9GATE 36 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.9GATE 37 N 22 19.4 E 114 11.9GATE 38 N 22 19.5 E 114 12.0GATE 41 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1GATE 43 N 22 19.6 E 114 12.1GATE 44 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2GATE 45 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2GATE 46 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.2GATE 47 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.3GATE 48 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.3GATE 49 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.3GATE 50 N 22 19.9 E 114 12.3GATE 51 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.3GATE 52 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.3GATE 53 N 22 20.0 E 114 12.3GATE 54 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.0GATE 55 N 22 19.7 E 114 12.1GATE 56 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1GATE 57 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1GATE 58 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.2GATE 59 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1GATE 60 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1GATE 61 N 22 19.8 E 114 12.1GATE 71 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 72 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 73 N 22 19.3 E 114 12.2GATE 74 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.3GATE 75 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.3GATE 76 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.3GATE 77 N 22 19.2 E 114 12.4GATE 78 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4GATE 79 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.4GATE 80 N 22 19.1 E 114 12.5GATE 81 N 22 19.0 E 114 12.5ENDGATES

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The file you have just is the wrong one because it is not with the procedures.You need to download the correct one.You had 9Dragons installed ... which had VHHX.txt for PMDG.Do you still have the 9Dragons directory?Even when you uninstall it could have left some of the files!Otherwise ... post back here.

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In the above, I see only SIDs and two IAPs (ILS31 and IGS13). If you see the arrivals then you probably didn't do anything wrong.

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I uninstalled 9 Dragons but have all of it in a folder on my desktop. I'm looking. Is there another way to find it

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