As I fly with a 3 monitor set up in the VC mode 98% of the time the wings of most GA aircraft are visable. Sometime I switch the MIDDLE monitor to the SPOT view but the left and right monitors are still showing the VC view and the wings show. THERE HAS TO BE A .CFG ENTRY SOMEWHERE THAT MAKES THESE WING VIEWS SHOW UP !!!!! Where is this setting ??? When I fly in the SPOT view I do not want the wings showing . I could try to "paint" the wings OUT and make a new view but this isn't the best way to do this. There must be a .cfg entry I could delete and get rid of the wings in my desired view. Where is it found. Thanks jerrycwo4 A screen shot below shows what the undesirable view looks like.

Hi,The only thing I can think of, is to try to change the "SEE_SELF=1" to "SEE_SELF=0" under the GRAPHICS entry in the FS9.cfg file. :(

As I fly with a 3 monitor set up in the VC mode 98% of the time the wings of most GA aircraft are visable. Sometime I switch the MIDDLE monitor to the SPOT view but the left and right monitors are still showing the VC view and the wings show. THERE HAS TO BE A .CFG ENTRY SOMEWHERE THAT MAKES THESE WING VIEWS SHOW UP !!!!! Where is this setting ??? When I fly in the SPOT view I do not want the wings showing . I could try to "paint" the wings OUT and make a new view but this isn't the best way to do this. There must be a .cfg entry I could delete and get rid of the wings in my desired view. Where is it found. Thanks jerrycwo4 A screen shot below shows what the undesirable view looks like.

Jerry- The wings could be edited out using a hex editor. Perhaps somebody else could chime in with comments on its use- I haven't got a clue. I believe the hex editor is the only way to do this.From your pic, it looks like the outer views are actually View Left/Right. Have you tried using 2D Views Left(right)FWD? That would swing the wings back, probably making them disappear. (There would be no wing showing in VL/RFwd.) That would also correctly mate the three view sceneries: I suspect there is a scenery view missing between VFWD & the outer monitor views.Alex Reid

As I fly with a 3 monitor set up in the VC mode 98% of the time the wings of most GA aircraft are visable. Sometime I switch the MIDDLE monitor to the SPOT view but the left and right monitors are still showing the VC view and the wings show. THERE HAS TO BE A .CFG ENTRY SOMEWHERE THAT MAKES THESE WING VIEWS SHOW UP !!!!! Where is this setting ??? When I fly in the SPOT view I do not want the wings showing . I could try to "paint" the wings OUT and make a new view but this isn't the best way to do this. There must be a .cfg entry I could delete and get rid of the wings in my desired view. Where is it found. Thanks jerrycwo4 A screen shot below shows what the undesirable view looks like.

Interesting... It's been years we've been asking for everything visible in the VC as you'd see it in the real world from developers especially in more detail and now I see a request like this. It goes to show the varying styles of use of FS. Since your flying with '3 monitors in the VC' :( these links may be worth a look for you. From someone who flies in real life this is the best option out there hands down for FS and the PC:

Interesting... It's been years we've been asking for everything visible in the VC as you'd see it in the real world from developers especially in more detail and now I see a request like this. It goes to show the varying styles of use of FS. Since your flying with '3 monitors in the VC' :( these links may be worth a look for you. From someone who flies in real life this is the best option out there hands down for FS and the PC:

Dillon- The problem arises from the fact that Microsoft in its wisdom used the virtual views artwork (window frames/wings etc) also in the 2D views. That's OK for single monitor simmers, but put 2D views LFwd,Fwd,RFwd together in a multi mon wide horizon setup and the result is somewhat nonsensical.The solution is to edit out the "garbage" in 2D views via a Hex Editor. (search forums for Hex Editor)A friend did this for me for the FS9 King Air- see the before and after screenies attached. Haven't a clue as to what he did. DreamFleet airplanes and other add on vendors take this into account with no virtual artifacts in any 2D views.Alex ReidFS9 default KingAir before Hex Edit surgery to remove virtual artifactsKingAir after surgery. Much nicer I think!! And with the wide horizon, your flying improves dramatically- finally making use of your periheral vision!Try it once and you will never go back to single mon tunnel vision!(The opened popups at right are an attempt to extend the panel across in front of the copilot and his view fwd in the right half of the windscreen.Co pilot view fwd is same as Captain's view right fwd!!)

Alex, I looked at the "you tube" stuff but I'm not interested in an "I tracker". I've already tried that and I didn't like it ( had to keep my neck/head in UNCOMFORTABLE positions too long. With my 3 monitor system ( now 4), I don't need it. The views on my RIGHT and LEFT monitors are NOT 2-D views. They are VC cockpit views that I have moved forward and then sung out to match the edges of my CENTER monitor on both sides. I do know that to view 180 * in the 2-D mode you need 5 different views: left, left-forward, center, right-forward and right. This will show a 180* view. I get the same 180* view, but I only use THREE views on three different monitors. This is NOT ONE view streach over three monitors... it is three differant views. The ONLY part of the 180* view that is hidden is what's behind the bezels (sp) of each monitor. I use the bezels of my monitors to hid that little part of the view just like in a real aircraft that has "window frames" that hid a small part of the view. I could make my views "touch" each other on the sides of each monitor, but I like my method better. Here is a 180 * view of "Emma Field". The only part of the view that is missing is the small"slice" between the monitors. jerrycwo4Staffan.. I changed that "View-self" from a "1" to a "0", but it did NOT get rid of the wings. What is that entry in the .cfg supposed to do ?????????Alex, is there anyway that you could get me in touch with your friend that knows how to "get rid" of the wings??????

----------Alex, is there anyway that you could get me in touch with your friend that knows how to "get rid" of the wings??????

Jerry- this was a few years ago- not sure he's even simming nowadays. Try searching the forums for "Hex Editor". I'm not sure if it works to remove artifacts in Virtual views.Alex Reid

Staffan.. I changed that "View-self" from a "1" to a "0", but it did NOT get rid of the wings. What is that entry in the .cfg supposed to do ?????????

Now that I have checked some more, I suppose that entry adjust if you want to see wingvievs when in 2D cockpit view. IOW not in VC view. :(

Why on earth is anyone spawning 3d VC views for the left/right side monitors to begin with? Why not simply spawn left/front and right/front 2d views? Then there are no "wings" to see, nor any part of the VC... :(

Why on earth is anyone spawning 3d VC views for the left/right side monitors to begin with? Why not simply spawn left/front and right/front 2d views? Then there are no "wings" to see, nor any part of the VC... :(

My thoughts exactly... :(

Why on earth is anyone spawning 3d VC views for the left/right side monitors to begin with? Why not simply spawn left/front and right/front 2d views? Then there are no "wings" to see, nor any part of the VC... :(

Fr Bill- Unfortunately in FS9 default airplanes, MicroSoft placed 3D Virtual artifacts such as window frames/wings etc ALSO in 2D views. Which makes them somewhat nonsensical when you place views LFwd,Fwd,RFwd side by side in a triple mon setup. Editing out this garbage via Hex Editor seems to be the solution. (see my KingAir screenshots in this thread above, for before/after editing.)Better still, use add- on airplanes which appear to not have this deficiency.The original poster apparently has some technical problems which cause him to use virtual views rather than 2D.But as far as I can tell from my setup, 2D views are the only way you can accurately synch and fully integrate triple views. Alex ReidPS- Wouldn't it be nice if developers provided a 2D copilot's panel that could be placed on the right mon to integrate smoothly with pilot's panel= a single panel that flows across 2 monitors. I already hear folks saying that the panel DOES not extend across View Right Forward!!!Don't be too sure- Co pilot's view forward is identical to Captain's view forward right!!!!!!Then I wouldn't have to use popups to simulate copilot's panel!

Yes. true. But if you spawn 2D views then you *can* use the "SEE_SELF=0" cfg entry to eliminate the outside views of your aircraft, right?

Yes. true. But if you spawn 2D views then you *can* use the "SEE_SELF=0" cfg entry to eliminate the outside views of your aircraft, right?

Hi Tom- not sure I follow your comment. It's not the outside aircraft view that is the problem- but the 2D inside views (FwdL & FwdR) which in default planes have a variety of virtual artifacts that don't mate with main view fwd.None of my add on planes have this problem, and are so superior to defaults that I personally never use the latter.Couldn't care less about tower/chase views etc- not interested in what the plane exterior looks like nor fancy airline paint jobs. My objective is simply to create a poor man's "Simulator" !! CAE & Rockwell- eat your hearts out!!!Alex Reid