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Uses for an extra control axis?

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I have a nice Saitek setup with rudder pedals, yoke and two of the throttle quadrants. This gives me nine control axes and for my twin engine aircraft I have only come up with uses for 8 (all being programmed through registered FSUIPC).1. Elevators2. Airlerons3. Rudder4. Engine 15. Engine 26. Flaps7. Spoilers8. Landing gear9. ???????So, I've racked my brain. Any suggests for this one? I've thought about elevated trim, but truthfully think this would become quite cumbersome. I also thought of trying to turn the extra axis in to a reverser axis for all engines, but can't find a way to do this in FSUIPC when I have other axes controlling each engine seperately.

Eric Szczesniak

I have a nice Saitek setup with rudder pedals, yoke and two of the throttle quadrants. This gives me nine control axes and for my twin engine aircraft I have only come up with uses for 8 (all being programmed through registered FSUIPC).1. Elevators2. Airlerons3. Rudder4. Engine 15. Engine 26. Flaps7. Spoilers8. Landing gear9. ???????So, I've racked my brain. Any suggests for this one? I've thought about elevated trim, but truthfully think this would become quite cumbersome. I also thought of trying to turn the extra axis in to a reverser axis for all engines, but can't find a way to do this in FSUIPC when I have other axes controlling each engine seperately.
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Jeremy "rightseater" Fletcher

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Good points, but I should have added that I am looking for this for jet aircraft (737, 767, etc.).

Eric Szczesniak

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I have a nice Saitek setup with rudder pedals, yoke and two of the throttle quadrants. This gives me nine control axes and for my twin engine aircraft I have only come up with uses for 8 (all being programmed through registered FSUIPC).1. Elevators2. Airlerons3. Rudder4. Engine 15. Engine 26. Flaps7. Spoilers8. Landing gear9. ???????So, I've racked my brain. Any suggests for this one? I've thought about elevated trim, but truthfully think this would become quite cumbersome. I also thought of trying to turn the extra axis in to a reverser axis for all engines, but can't find a way to do this in FSUIPC when I have other axes controlling each engine seperately.
Use the "direct to FSUIPC" assignment option. You can assign to the single reverser for all engines, instead of one of the 4 separate reversers listed. You have to pull all throttles to idle first, then pull back the reverser.Another possible use is for ground steering -- assign to steering tiller. You'd need to get used to a forward push for left and pull back for right, or vice versa, but it soon becomes natural. The advantage of a separate steering tiller from the rudder is that you can calibrate it to be much more effective, giving you better steering control on the ground. On the take off roll, FSUIPC gradually changes over to the rudder --by the time you get to 60 knots it is all rudder again.RegardsPete

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I'd pick spoilers, if I just were using that list. Getting the spoiler angle just right on final seems to make the rest of the landing go easier. You can tweak the spoilers and still keep the autothrottle engaged. I don't know if that's kosher procedure, but I find it fun enough.Jeff ShylukSenior Staff ReviewerAVSIM

I have a very similar set up and use the 'spare' axis for the ground wheel steering tiller, as Pete suggested. It's very realistic, as remember that many airliners, do have a 'forward/back' type tiller, rather than left to right. It also hikes up the realism in general having a seperate control for the ground wheel, and transitioningto rudder when the IAS comes alive on the take off run.Highly recommended.Saying that, I am now going to look at trying out this axis on the 'single axis for all reversers' scenario that Pete mentioned. At the moment, I use a 'detent button' at the back of one of my throttle axis, to drive a held F2 command in FSUIPC buttons page, but I reckon pulling the throttles to idle, then pulling a seperate lever for reverse will be more realistic and fun.Thanks for the idea Pete!Davido.

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I'd pick spoilers, if I just were using that list. Getting the spoiler angle just right on final seems to make the rest of the landing go easier. You can tweak the spoilers and still keep the autothrottle engaged. I don't know if that's kosher procedure, but I find it fun enough.Jeff ShylukSenior Staff ReviewerAVSIM
Well, that list were the commands I already picked to program, so i do have spoilers set. However, in terms of kosher, it's really not. It's typically airline specific, but generally spoilers are prohibited with more than the equivelant of 1-5 degrees of flaps on a Boeing and any time with the gear down.

Eric Szczesniak

D'oh! That makes more sense. I was kind of wondering why you haven't assigned axes to stuff like aelerons, and then I figured it was multiple choice. I should have gone for the degree where I had to write stuff out in exams, rather than pick A,B,C,D. Jeff ShylukSenior Staff ReviewerAVSIM

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Well, now that I got the tips on how to programm it, I picked the reversers for the extra axis. The steering tiller wasn't a bad thought either, but I'm kind of a fan of just doing it all with my rudder pedals. I have the slope/curve set so that I have deadened the response in the center zones so that I can get more precise input on takeoff roll, but then get full nosewheel steering at either extreme while taxiing.

Eric Szczesniak

Wow, I too set up a spare 'lever' (axis) for Reversers and wow, WHAT A BLAST! ..... so much more fun and realistic pulling the throttles back to idle and now reaching for a seperate lever for revsersers (I positioned mine in between the 2 throttle levers, on a 'reversed' axis).This works brilliantly with the F1 Coolsky Super 80 Pro....... Proper graduation of the reverser deployment. Cool!Thanks Pete for the inspiration,Davido.

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