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SSAA on Radeons - Now Working Properly with Catalyst 9.11

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Looks like the LOD adjustment necessary to prevent texture quality degradation is now performed automatically by the driver with the latest Catalyst version. You can get them here.

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I can confirm that Super Sampling has inproved for FSX in this Catalyst Version. The FPS is now also better than with previous driver.

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I can confirm that Super Sampling has inproved for FSX in this Catalyst Version. The FPS is now also better than with previous driver.
Same here, I

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Im also having the bad shimmering texture issue in FS9 which seems to be effecting some other games out there as well. Looks like this driver is a no go for me.Asus 5770.

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From the reviews I've seen it looks like another driver dependent card just like the 4870x2 was
Every graphics card on the planet is "driver dependent".
and useless as far as CPU bound games like FSX are concerned.
This thread is about SSAA on HD Radeons. If you understand what SSAA is, you could use this knowledge to further realize that the 5970 is just the card for running games with high levels of AA, SSAA in particular.Hardly "useless".

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Unfortunately for me SSAA is no go for me with my Asus EAH5870 since the FPS dips to a constant 4fps whenever I encounter clouds (and talking about FS9 now). I actually had better visual quality with my NVIDIA 8800GT (when using Nhancer) card than the 5870 but I am sure it will improve. COD MW2 looks brilliant though! :D

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Every graphics card on the planet is "driver dependent".
What I was referring to is the fact that with the 5970 (just like the 4870x2 before) if the driver doesn

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So the 5970 doesn't have an option to disable one GPU (akin to conventional cross-fire setup)? I wonder why this feature doesn't get added? I've never read a review criticizing the 5970 (or the 4870x2) for lacking this feature, yet I'm constantly taking my 4890/4870 setup into and out of cross-fire mode dependent upon what particular game I want to use.
Supposedly disabling

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What I was referring to is the fact that with the 5970 (just like the 4870x2 before) if the driver doesn't have a profile for a particular game then the performance in that game suffers and the performance is often worse than with a single GPU.
Executable renaming is the preferred method for forcing AFR. Basically just change the name of the game to one that matches a game which does have an AFR profile and it usually just plain works. Generally the engine utilized by the games needs to be the same though. Example: the game Borderlands is not supported in the standard Catalyst driver but can be renamed to "UT3.exe" and it just works. Also, the latest hotfix adds an AFR profile for it.
Not every graphics card on the planet is as "driver dependent" as multi-GPU video cards.
True.
Again it is "useless" if a particular game is not profiled in the driver.
Only if the user doesn't apply a manual override.

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Executable renaming is the preferred method for forcing AFR. Basically just change the name of the game to one that matches a game which does have an AFR profile and it usually just plain works.
Been there done that, I think it worked for one game that I had, it did nothing for the primarily CPU bound sims I run.

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Been there done that, I think it worked for one game that I had, it did nothing for the primarily CPU bound sims I run.
CPU-bound applications do not gain performance from increases in GPU compute power, except at extreme graphical settings. First it was "X2 cards are 'driver dependent'" and now it's "the games I play don't rely on the GPU". You're on a totally different track now. Do you have a point?

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CPU-bound applications do not gain performance from increases in GPU compute power, except at extreme graphical settings.
Yes depending on the game at

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Yes depending on the game at "extreme graphical settings" like with high levels of AA at high resolution that I run, but like I said again trying to force AFR did nothing with the majority of the games I have. Lol, here's the point; nothing new, dual GPU video cards are useless for FSX. By the way what's your point? Do you even have any experience with the hardware in this discussion?
I've given you all the pieces of the puzzle. Do I need to put it together for you as well?Piece 1: FSX is CPU-boundPiece 2: extra GPU horsepower allows for higher levels of detailPiece 3: SSAA is very graphically demandingThe extra GPU means you can run high levels of SSAA.

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I have quite a bit of experience with the 4870x2 as two of my closest friends (including my roommate) run them in their gaming PCs, both of which I assembled. As for micro-stuttering attributed to AFR, this is only an issue with fast-paced shooters and mis-matched graphics configurations with the slave card being significantly slower than the master, neither of which are true in this case.So yes, the extra GPU will help with SSAA.

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I have quite a bit of experience with the 4870x2 as two of my closest friends (including my roommate) run them in their gaming PCs
So your extensive experience with the 4870x2 is with someone else

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So your extensive experience with the 4870x2 is with someone else's card?
If you read carefully you'll notice that one of the two 4870x2's I've dealt with is my roommate's. Guess who gets to troubleshoot every problem on that system.
My 4870x2 has exhibited the micro-stuttering (and major stuttering) issue with every racing sim I own as well as FSX and FS9. GRID Racing and Half Life 2 are about the only two games that the 4870x2 has been of any use to me.
Sorry to hear that. I haven't observed any stuttering on either of the x2's I deal with regularly, nor have the users complained about any sort of performance issues akin to stuttering. Have you submitted a support ticket to ATi's Catalyst team, or spoken with other 4870x2 users on sites like Rage3d or DriverHeaven?
Again if the game has a profile in the Catalyst driver then yes maybe the extra GPU will help, if not it can make things worse.
And again, executable renaming generally just works in my experience. If yours is different I'd suspect the apparently multiple issues you have with your system to indicate a serious problem.

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If you read carefully you'll notice that one of the two 4870x2's I've dealt with is my roommate's. I haven't observed any stuttering on either of the x2's I deal with regularly, nor have the users complained about any sort of performance issues akin to stuttering. Have you submitted a support ticket to ATi's Catalyst team, or spoken with other 4870x2 users on sites like Rage3d or DriverHeaven? If yours is different I'd suspect the apparently multiple issues you have with your system to indicate a serious problem.
What

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I'm sorry your luck with x2 cards has been poor. Have you ever tried one of NV's dual-GPU cards? It's difficult to find a cause or solution to PC problems without extensive troubleshooting, in this case including changing to a completely different card altogether. As for exe renaming, I provided more details in an earlier post. If you have issues with a game not running properly in CF mode and that game uses the same (or similar) engine as another game which does have an AFR profile, renaming said game executable to that of the other game with a working profile works for most games. There are always exceptions though, if it worked every time the driver would just profile games and do it for the user automatically.

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I'm sorry your luck with x2 cards has been poor. Have you ever tried one of NV's dual-GPU cards? It's difficult to find a cause or solution to PC problems without extensive troubleshooting, in this case including changing to a completely different card altogether. As for exe renaming, I provided more details in an earlier post. If you have issues with a game not running properly in CF mode and that game uses the same (or similar) engine as another game which does have an AFR profile, renaming said game executable to that of the other game with a working profile works for most games. There are always exceptions though, if it worked every time the driver would just profile games and do it for the user automatically.
Not the GTX 295 but I have experimented with Nvidia

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I also ran dual X1900s in CF back in the day. Bought an XTX the day before launch and the master card 3 months later through ATi's retail partner program at a significant discount. Drivers were a mess back then so I never really got it working right until about 6 months later with the Cat 6.9's and 6.10's. That system certainly was the envy of all my nerd brethren. I spent as much on video hardware alone (including monitors) for that PC as I did for the entire system in my sig, including the plasma tv. Good luck with your CF adventures. I've stuck with fast single GPU cards ever since my first mis-adventure with CF back in '06. I wouldn't turn down a 5970 though :(

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