December 4, 200916 yr Hello,I am experiencing an odd, and frustrating sound issue. Seems to apply mostly to turbine powered aircraft (any), and happens mostly when I am taxiing or advancing the throttle for takeoff. I'll try to describe it as best as I can...You know how on a surround sound system you can hear the sound go "around" the room. Well the engine sound is like that. I know that probably makes no sense, but is the best way I can describe it. If anyone else has experienced the same issue and can shed some light, it would be appreciated!Thanks :)Win 7 64bitquad 9550fsx w/ accel.
December 4, 200916 yr Is it a swooshing sound? Search my posts. Maybe we are talking about the same thing. And no, I don't have a solution yet. MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
December 4, 200916 yr Hello,I am experiencing an odd, and frustrating sound issue. Seems to apply mostly to turbine powered aircraft (any), and happens mostly when I am taxiing or advancing the throttle for takeoff. I'll try to describe it as best as I can...You know how on a surround sound system you can hear the sound go "around" the room. Well the engine sound is like that. I know that probably makes no sense, but is the best way I can describe it. If anyone else has experienced the same issue and can shed some light, it would be appreciated!Thanks :)Many sound sets for FS aircraft are not true stereo, though they often claim to be. What happens is that a sound designer takes two identical waveforms representing for example left and right engines, then places them left and right in the stereo field. But this is not stereo, and is more like two mono signals placed in a left and right field, and they are in fact the same waveforms. When you do this you are in effect cancelling the stereo out, due to the "phasing" effect of two waveforms which are so similar that they overlap or coincide in a slow rhythmical pulse. This phasing has the effect of nullifying or exaggerating the signal and increasing/decreasing the perceived amplitude of the waves as they move slowly in and out of sync. This also sets up another waveform which is the positive or negative harmonic sum of the two wave forms in and out of phase. The perceived effect is one of a randomly phasing sound which appears to be permanently moving around the stereo image, and also sets up a subsidiary pitch which goes slowly up and down in concert with the phasing of the two signals.The solution is to design a proper stereo pair of sound sets which are sufficiently different in waveform to avoid phasing.Regards,Rob Young - RealAir Simulations Robert Young - retired full time developer - see my Nexus Mod Page and my GitHub Mod page
December 4, 200916 yr Many sound sets for FS aircraft are not true stereo, though they often claim to be. What happens is that a sound designer takes two identical waveforms representing for example left and right engines, then places them left and right in the stereo field. But this is not stereo, and is more like two mono signals placed in a left and right field, and they are in fact the same waveforms. When you do this you are in effect cancelling the stereo out, due to the "phasing" effect of two waveforms which are so similar that they overlap or coincide in a slow rhythmical pulse. This phasing has the effect of nullifying or exaggerating the signal and increasing/decreasing the perceived amplitude of the waves as they move slowly in and out of sync. This also sets up another waveform which is the positive or negative harmonic sum of the two wave forms in and out of phase. The perceived effect is one of a randomly phasing sound which appears to be permanently moving around the stereo image, and also sets up a subsidiary pitch which goes slowly up and down in concert with the phasing of the two signals.The solution is to design a proper stereo pair of sound sets which are sufficiently different in waveform to avoid phasing.Regards,Rob Young - RealAir SimulationsThat does sound like what I am talking about. MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
December 4, 200916 yr If you turn your (virtual) head a bit, it should give you a stereo-ish sound. I use TrackIR and notice the phenomenon when I "I´ll rather be down here wishing I was up there than be up there wishing I was down here"
December 4, 200916 yr If you turn your (virtual) head a bit, it should give you a stereo-ish sound. I use TrackIR and notice the phenomenon when I MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
December 4, 200916 yr Hello,I am experiencing an odd, and frustrating sound issue. Seems to apply mostly to turbine powered aircraft (any), and happens mostly when I am taxiing or advancing the throttle for takeoff. I'll try to describe it as best as I can...You know how on a surround sound system you can hear the sound go "around" the room. Well the engine sound is like that. I know that probably makes no sense, but is the best way I can describe it. If anyone else has experienced the same issue and can shed some light, it would be appreciated!Thanks :)Win 7 64bitquad 9550fsx w/ accel.What sound system are you using? I ask, because had a similar problem after moving to W7, and it turned out that the Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audio Console EAX had somehow switched itself to select "Cathedral", or one of the "echo-ey" built-in sound enhancements. Clicked on "No Effects", and it was fixed! i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
December 4, 200916 yr That is kind of what is sounds like - a effect - but it only happens with some aircraft.I am using onboard sound and from what I can see there are no other settings except the default windows ones. I think the guy that build the system didn't install the control panel for the sound driver. He probably did this because I put the fear of G-d in to him about installing anything that was not completely necessary. MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
December 8, 200916 yr Author Thank you for the replies gents! I have been playing with my sound card settings, and have found some improvement.-Dighost
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