December 12, 200916 yr I must have missed some obvious step. I filed a genuine Malev flightplan from LRTM to LHBP by downloading from FSBuild to the FS2004 planner. I opened RC 4.3 and loaded this - it showed up as it should. I checked 'No Dep Proc' as there are no published departure procedures from LRTM. I followed ATC instructions and at around 25 nm out he handed me off with 'resume own navigation direct to LHBP'. I did not want to go direct! When I attempted to get onto my flight plan track (by turning left about 60 degrees) ATC came back up, said I was off track and gave me a new heading direct to LHBP. I tried going to my flightplan again much to the annoyance of ATC and I was forced to fly direct. What did I do wrong? John
December 12, 200916 yr I may be wrong, but direct to is somewhat a point A to B straight line from where you are now to your next way point and has nothing to do with your FMC flight plans lines from way point A to B.I usually get a heading direction that is close to my filed plan after I contact center/departure just after take off.
December 12, 200916 yr Author I may be wrong, but direct to is somewhat a point A to B straight line from where you are now to your next way point and has nothing to do with your FMC flight plans lines from way point A to B.I usually get a heading direction that is close to my filed plan after I contact center/departure just after take off. Thanks, Jim. I know what 'direct to' is! My point is that RC ATC ignored my flight plan and routed me 'direct to LHBP', not my next waypoint. When I tried to route to my next waypoint ATC went nuts. What I would like to know is why it did that, and how can I make it use my flight plan in future. John John
December 12, 200916 yr Commercial Member I must have missed some obvious step. I filed a genuine Malev flightplan from LRTM to LHBP by downloading from FSBuild to the FS2004 planner. I opened RC 4.3 and loaded this - it showed up as it should. I checked 'No Dep Proc' as there are no published departure procedures from LRTM. I followed ATC instructions and at around 25 nm out he handed me off with 'resume own navigation direct to LHBP'. I did not want to go direct! When I attempted to get onto my flight plan track (by turning left about 60 degrees) ATC came back up, said I was off track and gave me a new heading direct to LHBP. I tried going to my flightplan again much to the annoyance of ATC and I was forced to fly direct. What did I do wrong?can i see your flightplan?better yet, make a log, instructions pinned to the top of the forum. remember to click debug before loading the plan. then duplicate the problem, and send me the .log. JD Read my blog
December 12, 200916 yr Is this what FSB generated?LRTM TGM T802 EVRIK UL850 DODAR UL617 TPS LHBPFS9:[flightplan]title=LRTM to LHBPdescription=LRTM, LHBPtype=IFRroutetype=3cruising_altitude=32000departure_id=LRTM, N46* 28.03', E024* 24.45',+000963.00departure_position=07destination_id=LHBP, N47* 26.21', E019* 15.42',+000495.00departure_name=TRANSILVANIA-TARGU_MURESdestination_name=FERIHEGYwaypoint.0=LRTM, A, N46* 28.03', E024* 24.45', +00963.00, waypoint.1=TGM, N, N46* 26.48', E024* 18.23', +02000.00, T802waypoint.2=TIRGU, I, N46* 26.25', E024* 08.01', +05000.00, T802waypoint.3=VALIN, I, N46* 24.18', E023* 17.49', +21000.00, T802waypoint.4=EVRIK, I, N46* 21.06', E022* 14.32', +32000.00, UL850waypoint.5=BUDOP, I, N46* 41.14', E021* 29.47', +32000.00, UL850waypoint.6=DODAR, I, N47* 12.52', E019* 31.39', +09000.00, UL617waypoint.7=TPS, V, N47* 29.35', E019* 26.46', +03000.00, waypoint.8=LHBP, A, N47* 26.21', E019* 15.42', +000000.00, FSX:<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0"> <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr> <FlightPlan.FlightPlan> <Title>LRTM to LHBP</Title> <FPType>IFR</FPType> <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType> <CruisingAlt>32000</CruisingAlt> <DepartureID>LRTM</DepartureID> <DepartureLLA>N46
December 13, 200916 yr Commercial Member Is this what FSB generated?LRTM TGM T802 EVRIK UL850 DODAR UL617 TPS LHBPFS9:[flightplan]title=LRTM to LHBPdescription=LRTM, LHBPtype=IFRroutetype=3cruising_altitude=32000departure_id=LRTM, N46* 28.03', E024* 24.45',+000963.00departure_position=07destination_id=LHBP, N47* 26.21', E019* 15.42',+000495.00departure_name=TRANSILVANIA-TARGU_MURESdestination_name=FERIHEGYwaypoint.0=LRTM, A, N46* 28.03', E024* 24.45', +00963.00, waypoint.1=TGM, N, N46* 26.48', E024* 18.23', +02000.00, T802waypoint.2=TIRGU, I, N46* 26.25', E024* 08.01', +05000.00, T802waypoint.3=VALIN, I, N46* 24.18', E023* 17.49', +21000.00, T802waypoint.4=EVRIK, I, N46* 21.06', E022* 14.32', +32000.00, UL850waypoint.5=BUDOP, I, N46* 41.14', E021* 29.47', +32000.00, UL850waypoint.6=DODAR, I, N47* 12.52', E019* 31.39', +09000.00, UL617waypoint.7=TPS, V, N47* 29.35', E019* 26.46', +03000.00, waypoint.8=LHBP, A, N47* 26.21', E019* 15.42', +000000.00, FSX:<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="AceXML" version="1,0"> <Descr>AceXML Document</Descr> <FlightPlan.FlightPlan> <Title>LRTM to LHBP</Title> <FPType>IFR</FPType> <RouteType>HighAlt</RouteType> <CruisingAlt>32000</CruisingAlt> <DepartureID>LRTM</DepartureID> <DepartureLLA>N46 JD Read my blog
December 13, 200916 yr I was just verifying his FSB version and checking the plan format experienced by others. instead of guessing what his plan is, could we see what the plan is? and a log from a flight where the problem occurss, so we can solved the problem on his machine, with his flight. we'e just guessing and speculating on what could of happened. guess isn't very productive.jd
December 13, 200916 yr Author Is this what FSB generated?LRTM TGM T802 EVRIK UL850 DODAR UL617 TPS LHBPFS9:[flightplan]title=LRTM to LHBPdescription=LRTM, LHBPtype=IFRroutetype=3cruising_altitude=32000departure_id=LRTM, N46* 28.03', E024* 24.45',+000963.00departure_position=07destination_id=LHBP, N47* 26.21', E019* 15.42',+000495.00departure_name=TRANSILVANIA-TARGU_MURESdestination_name=FERIHEGYwaypoint.0=LRTM, A, N46* 28.03', E024* 24.45', +00963.00, waypoint.1=TGM, N, N46* 26.48', E024* 18.23', +02000.00, T802waypoint.2=TIRGU, I, N46* 26.25', E024* 08.01', +05000.00, T802waypoint.3=VALIN, I, N46* 24.18', E023* 17.49', +21000.00, T802waypoint.4=EVRIK, I, N46* 21.06', E022* 14.32', +32000.00, UL850waypoint.5=BUDOP, I, N46* 41.14', E021* 29.47', +32000.00, UL850waypoint.6=DODAR, I, N47* 12.52', E019* 31.39', +09000.00, UL617waypoint.7=TPS, V, N47* 29.35', E019* 26.46', +03000.00, waypoint.8=LHBP, A, N47* 26.21', E019* 15.42', +000000.00,LRTM TGM T802 EVRIK L602 BUDOP Y558 ABONY LHBPThanks, ronzie. I could not find the source of the remainder of your thread to check. I run FS9 only. JC, thanks, I will run the flight again tonight and post a debug log. John
December 14, 200916 yr Author The explanation? I had LHBP programmed in as the 2nd waypoint. How stupid is that?Even more embarrassing is that I had to find out from jd himself. :(:(:( John
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