December 17, 200916 yr Ok, OTHER THAN Matrox's triple head to go, is there a way to span video across 2 monitors? From what I have read the last couple days, since Vista and beyond, Window's new driver architecture REMOVES the spanning ability from Nvidia's driver and config panel. I know I could shell out another $300 or so for a Matrox, but is there another solution?The end goal here is to allow my FSX to run at 2048 X 768 and span BOTH monitors, which are set to 1024 X 768 each. This was easily accomplished with Matrox, but without??? Anyone got some software hints that would work?Computer specs are below in signature, and also a link to a more in-depth on the specs. It's FSX w/ Acceleration, Win7 Pro 64-Bit, and Nvidia 9800 GTX card.Thanks all! John Binner, MCDST U.S. Dept Of Veteran Affairs, Senior IT Analyst OI&T, SPM, Clinical Imaging 2022 Build: Thermaltake Core X71 Full tower case, ASUS Prime X570-P Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core CPU, ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX6900 XT GPU, G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB DDR 3600 RAM, Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W 80+ Gold PSU, Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L Water Cooler
December 17, 200916 yr What new 'Window's new driver architecture REMOVES the spanning ability from Nvidia's driver and config panel' does this?ATI has 'Eyefinity'.
December 17, 200916 yr Author I spent 3 hours last night looking, but the ability IS REMOVED in newer Nvidia Drivers. I am trying to find the FAQ on their site to link here......However....this morning I am now reading that in SLI-mode, it also works. Which, sucks. :) I only have one GPU card at the moment, and either way looks like I am stuck spending cash I don't have. :( What new 'Window's new driver architecture REMOVES the spanning ability from Nvidia's driver and config panel' does this?ATI has 'Eyefinity'. John Binner, MCDST U.S. Dept Of Veteran Affairs, Senior IT Analyst OI&T, SPM, Clinical Imaging 2022 Build: Thermaltake Core X71 Full tower case, ASUS Prime X570-P Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core CPU, ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX6900 XT GPU, G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB DDR 3600 RAM, Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W 80+ Gold PSU, Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L Water Cooler
December 17, 200916 yr You might want to keep a watch on this site. Currently FSX does not work correctly but maybe this is being looked at.[/url]http://www.kegetys.net/SoftTH/
December 17, 200916 yr Author will do, although I am only looking for 2 screens. :) You might want to keep a watch on this site. Currently FSX does not work correctly but maybe this is being looked at.[/url]http://www.kegetys.net/SoftTH/ John Binner, MCDST U.S. Dept Of Veteran Affairs, Senior IT Analyst OI&T, SPM, Clinical Imaging 2022 Build: Thermaltake Core X71 Full tower case, ASUS Prime X570-P Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core CPU, ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX6900 XT GPU, G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB DDR 3600 RAM, Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W 80+ Gold PSU, Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L Water Cooler
December 17, 200916 yr Author more info on the problem at hand, first the quote from:http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums...8e-8076fa51b27a (bottom of the page)"Spanning and Extending are 2 different video modes based on the Video driver support. The Video drivers, most popularly nVidia and ATI...as well as Intel, are only able to provide the features allowed them by the WDDM...as described above. Extending has been a base option since the 95 days. More advanced modes for graphical editing applications, 3D rendering, gaming, as well as productivity software and others....have been able to optimize the user experience with SPANNING. This is the ability for Windows to recognize a single desktop resolution that spans multiple monitors instead of recognizing multiple desktops matched to an associated monitor.The underlying architecture that provided spanning (again, not extending) features to the video manufacturers was removed in WDDM 1.1 which was the underlying model for Vista and beyond. We were hopeful that WDDM 2.0 was to be completed by Windows 7, but it would seem that MS is behind their estimates and have released Win7 with WDDM 1.1, although there was no solid responses as yet that WDDM 2.0 was to provide spanning support back to the manufactures. There is currently a race between ATI and nVidia (currently with ATI in the lead) to try and replace the spanning feature that advanced computer users spoiled themselves on in the XP days with a driver specific replacement. ATI's EyeFinity is the first replacement. nVidia's version is currently unknown (since my last foray into researching this topic).I personally, am an nVidia owner and have been disappointed in their lack of enthusiasm to provide a spanning feature replacement as ATI has worked on. Thru all my research, those spoiled by desktop spanning is certainly a large number of folks that are well into the double digits percentage-wise. I utilize spanning in video editing, image editing, and gaming. I have been in an MMO game for 4 years with an XP gaming system that I replaced with a Vista system last year and lost the spanning support. I then moved the Vista system down to a seconday workstation and brought the XP back to life until earlier this year. Since May, I have been forcing myself on Windows 7 (without spanning) to try and break myself from the spanning habit. The peformance difference I get from the dual socket, quad-core x64 platform with SLI nvidia and 8GB of RAM surpasses what I am capable of with the XP system far enough to try and make the Win7 work. But so far...I am unable to go back to the level of productivity I had with desktop spanning. After 4 months of work arounds, 3rd party software, and even trying the Matrox solution...I find no 100% replacement....not even a 30% replacement...for native spanning support and the performance inherent with native support.Our only hope is that WDDM 2.0 is being developed with the achitectural support builtin and will be delivered soon as an update or service pack.....or nVidia and/or ATI develop's alternative solutions within their driver support that does not sacifice too much peformance (I'd rather wait for nVidia to get their's developed and released even if ATI's is fully functional).Here's to hoping...."So, to all you multi-monitor folks out there without a Matrox, DO NOT upgrade to Win7, or, wait till this WDDM 2 is out, or Nvidia finds a fix, OR switch to ATI...is all I can recommend. :( John Binner, MCDST U.S. Dept Of Veteran Affairs, Senior IT Analyst OI&T, SPM, Clinical Imaging 2022 Build: Thermaltake Core X71 Full tower case, ASUS Prime X570-P Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core CPU, ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX6900 XT GPU, G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB DDR 3600 RAM, Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W 80+ Gold PSU, Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L Water Cooler
December 18, 200916 yr You don "I´ll rather be down here wishing I was up there than be up there wishing I was down here"
December 18, 200916 yr Author Very right there, but I MAY want the option at a later date. :) Actually, going SLI for my 9800GTX card would run aorund $129 now, so that may be a cheap way to go. I love how they won't support spanning in Win7 or Vista, but shell the money out for a second card and all of a sudden it works. lolRegardless, Win7 so far is SO silky smooth for me, I am sticking to it this time, and making FS work around it instead of the other way around. It really is that good. You don John Binner, MCDST U.S. Dept Of Veteran Affairs, Senior IT Analyst OI&T, SPM, Clinical Imaging 2022 Build: Thermaltake Core X71 Full tower case, ASUS Prime X570-P Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core CPU, ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX6900 XT GPU, G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB DDR 3600 RAM, Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 850W 80+ Gold PSU, Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L Water Cooler
December 18, 200916 yr I myself have three monitors and TH2Go, so not having the monitor frames in the centre is nice. Way to think ahead :( Add a Track IR to that and you "I´ll rather be down here wishing I was up there than be up there wishing I was down here"
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