I don't know. Can't make up my mind. Is the Angle of Attack DVD worthwhile buying for the FSX version of the Level D 767? Any video's seem to just show 2D panels from the FS9 version. Any recommendations whether or not it is really helpful?Thanks lots,Stephen

Stephen,It's a great training aid and a steal for the price. It includes over 5 hours of training video professionally done. I have both the 767 training and the 747 training. This was money well spent and worth every penny.Regards,Bob

Stephen,It's a great training aid and a steal for the price. It includes over 5 hours of training video professionally done. I have both the 767 training and the 747 training. This was money well spent and worth every penny.Regards,Bob

Thanks Bob, Is it made for FSX though, or was it made for fs9? Looks like fs9 type 2d panels only. Was there an upgrade or is it good to go for both?Stephen

Thanks Bob, Is it made for FSX though, or was it made for fs9? Looks like fs9 type 2d panels only. Was there an upgrade or is it good to go for both?Stephen

I don't see how it would make a difference if you use FSX or FS9 since the LDS 767 uses the same procedures. The video describes how to fly the LDS using the proper procedures and nothing to do with the actual sim, whether is be FS9 or FSX. In fact I own the DVD and use the LDS767 in FSX, but judging from the graphics in the video it looks like it was shot using FS9. Doesn't make a difference though, the plane flies the same way in either platform.BTW, it's a really good video and I would recommend it as it clears up a lot of confusion that can arise from reading the manuals.

Thanks for the replies. Aren't there differences between the FMCs and other instruments between the two sims? They are not the same according to the Level D forum at HERE for it lists a large number of variations and refinements between the two, with multiple changes and fixes piled onto that through patches. The newer AOA 747 version is quite an improvement over the 767 one, according to various web postings. As far as I can tell the AOA fs9 version was made before the fsx Level D 767 even came out. Is there a 767 version that was updated from the original? How can a product made using an earlier model and version be up-to-date on all these things? On the same public portion of the Level D Forum linked above there is another thread about AOA HERE that mentions changes AOA would make if a 2.0 version was produced.The above concerns I have about the differences between the two versions is uppermost in my mind, and a deal breaker if it is a serious problem. I am not trying to be picky, and I could go on the Level D board, of which I am a registered Level D owner of both 767 versions, or the AOA boards and ask the same questions. But what I am hoping for is outside objective experience and opinion here in AVSIM which will guide me into making an informed decision as to whether or not to purchase the DVD. I don't want to buy another FS product that does not meet my needs or expectations, thereby wasting time and money. Done enough of that more than a few times already. :( My intention is to learn how to program and fly this particular plane in FSX and have fun doing it. Is the AOA 767 DVD the product that should do that the best or not, and if so, what about the differences noted above? Thanks again for your help. :( Stephen

Very in depth. Great for the simmer that wants to go beyond simming and really get into the 767.Long but very informative.

Hmmm, I don't know. I didn't know that the FS9 version varied that much from the FSX version as far as the way the systems were modeled or lack of systems. Makes me wonder which version of the AOA video I bought. Its been a while since I watched it but judging from the graphics I figured it was probably FS9, however the guy was getting horrible performance at that time(few years ago), so it may have been FSX.Maybe you should ask AOA or the LDS guys just to be sure. Either way or which ever version you get, the AOA videos are well done and provide a lot of info and make it easy to understand.

I don't want to make it harder for you to decide (well, maybe I do, just a little :( ), but have you checked out Mike Ray's "The UNOFFICIAL BOEING 757/767 SIMULATOR CHECKRIDE Survival MANUAL"? (On this page, scroll down a bit: http://www.utem.com/manuals.html).It is written for real-world pilots, but the Level D 767 is close enough that it is very useful for simmers also. Layout is excellent (check the sample pages on the website), with lots of illustrations and diagrams. I cannot think of anything that I want to know about flying the 767 that isn't covered in this book. And it is compatible with the 757, too, when they get around to releasing it

Thank you gals and guys for the advice. I have to learn this FMC thing for I can't let this 767 beat me down twice in a row. I can fly anything that has 2 wings and a propeller and make it dance like a ballerina, but its time to take a pitch fork to the elephant in the room and get real up close and personal like. So will it be AOA, or Mike Ray, or find and kidnap one of you two and make you tutor me?Stephen

Thank you gals and guys for the advice. I have to learn this FMC thing for I can't let this 767 beat me down twice in a row. I can fly anything that has 2 wings and a propeller and make it dance like a ballerina, but its time to take a pitch fork to the elephant in the room and get real up close and personal like. So will it be AOA, or Mike Ray, or find and kidnap one of you two and make you tutor me?Stephen

LOL, i'll tell you, just like anything else, once you get the hang of using it, it becomes really easy to use after a while. My first exposure to an FMC was the PMDG 737 for FS9 back in 2004/05. I took me a while to get the hang of it, but once I did going to the LDS 767 from the 737 was much easier. Now that I have a pretty solid understanding of how it works, I could probably get in the 747, 757, or 777 and have a pretty easy time of it since a lot of it is the same or very similar. Actually, I just picked up the Emb 170-190 package the other day and the knowledge I have transfered to the FMC in those a/c as well.Good luck.

Have you tried YouTube Stephen?I just did a search using the terms "LevelD 767 tutorial" and came up with about 50 results. There seem to be a few regarding the FMC. Haven't watched them myself but perhaps a good place to start before spending your hard earned pennies?

Have you tried YouTube Stephen?I just did a search using the terms "LevelD 767 tutorial" and came up with about 50 results. There seem to be a few regarding the FMC. Haven't watched them myself but perhaps a good place to start before spending your hard earned pennies?

If you are looking specifically for FMC tutorials, Youtube would be a good place to start.What about the "Golden Gate Run" tutorial in the Level D documentation, have you tried that?