May 23, 201016 yr Are there any 'optical joysticks' in existance?I am finally needing a replacement for my Logitech Wingman extreme. It had problems with the twist shortly after I bought itbut I fixed that and its lasted many years.ive kinda lost the ability to do work like that and so Id like to just get agood joystick in the first place. one that wont developpotentiometer problems a few months after I buy it.Ill probably just get the latest Logitech becuase Im not willing to spend 200 dollars on a controller.Do they even make optical joysticks or any type of joystick that doesnt use potentiometers?If you have the latest "Logitech Wingman extreme 3D Pro", how long have you had it and does it seem like it will last a good while?thanks in advance. | Dave | I've been around for most of my life. There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.
May 23, 201016 yr A Google search for Optical Joysticks brought quite a number of hits -Here is one of them:http://www.happcontrols.com/joysticks/rotary_optical_joy.htm
May 24, 201016 yr Optical joysticks are not your only alternative:1. You also have "Hall Effect" joysticks, see:a. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effectb. CH Products Hall Effect joystick http://www.chproducts.com/oem/finger_ip_desktop.html2. You might even be able to locate Optical or Hall effect pot replacement modules, so you can buy your favurite joystick and then replace the carbon pots. I have no idea if these replacement modules exist, but it seems likely someone might have manufactured them because they would be really useful.3. "Roll your own" Hall effect joystick: http://cubpilotshangar.net/page68.htmlCheers,- jahman.
May 24, 201016 yr Author Hi -thanks for the replies. I guess I just needed to look harder. Ive been searching for optical joysticks by Logitech or Ch or Saitek. anyway, apparently the saitek X52 is one of those hall effect joysticks and Logietchs G940 is "contactless". whatever that exactly means. i had never even heard of 'hall effect' but thats one of the ideas I was thinking of when I started this thread.maybe I just need to hold out a bit longer. It cant possibly be that difficult or expensive to create an optical joystick. They make optical mice. All they have to do is put the diode at the base of the shaft and then use a concave pickup surface. That covers X and Y. the twist could be a small arc strip of 'surface pickup' with the diode that moves left and right with the shaft. Throttle could be the same. Ill try the Saitek if I get desperate. i would have thought it would be more difficult and expensive to create a joystick that relies on magnetic fields than diodes but what do I know.thanks again. | Dave | I've been around for most of my life. There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.
May 25, 201016 yr You're welcome! Post back if you find anything.The reason optical mice exist is the huge market size for mice.Cheers,- jahman.
May 26, 201016 yr Hi -thanks for the replies. I guess I just needed to look harder. Ive been searching for optical joysticks by Logitech or Ch or Saitek. anyway, apparently the saitek X52 is one of those hall effect joysticks and Logietchs G940 is "contactless". whatever that exactly means. i had never even heard of 'hall effect' but thats one of the ideas I was thinking of when I started this thread.maybe I just need to hold out a bit longer. It cant possibly be that difficult or expensive to create an optical joystick. They make optical mice. All they have to do is put the diode at the base of the shaft and then use a concave pickup surface. That covers X and Y. the twist could be a small arc strip of 'surface pickup' with the diode that moves left and right with the shaft. Throttle could be the same. Ill try the Saitek if I get desperate. i would have thought it would be more difficult and expensive to create a joystick that relies on magnetic fields than diodes but what do I know.thanks again.Hi,try this one:http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000...e/dp/B0024MRWLWhttp://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/thru...0m-pc-joystick/Cheers,Premek http://www.xht-labs.comThere are 10 groups of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't...Why do developers confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
May 31, 201016 yr Hi,try this one:http://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-T-16000...e/dp/B0024MRWLWhttp://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/thru...0m-pc-joystick/Cheers,PremekIf you just need a joystick, I'd recommend the Thrustmaster T16000 mentioned above. It's quite stiff and super accurate...it just doesn't come with a detached throttle. Jeff Hepburn
June 3, 201016 yr Author Premek - thanks much for the recommendation. I ordered one and it came in yesterday. It seems excellent. well built and accurate. | Dave | I've been around for most of my life. There's always a sunset happening somewhere in the world that somebody is enjoying.
November 16, 201312 yr apparently the saitek X52 is one of those hall effect joysticks and Logietchs G940 is "contactless" How do you know this ? And even if it's true, is it enough to choose a joystick ? Knowing the technology may give you a hint about the lifetime of your device. It will not land in the trash-can after a few weeks because of crappy potentiometers. But I think it's also important to get specifications about the resolution/precision for all axes, and the latency + frequency. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/368976-saitek-ch-products-yokes-still-using-potentiometers/ Georges - OpenStreetMap - Ubuntu GNU/Linux -
November 17, 201312 yr I'm going to guess that since three and a half years have passed since this thread was last active that he's resolved the issue by now... Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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