September 29, 201015 yr Hi all,How is the headwind component of a crosswing calculated for Vref or Vapp? Thanks,Christos
September 29, 201015 yr It pretty much has no effect. Either with no wind, or a 20 knot headwind, you are still going the same airspeed, putting the same amount of air over the wings. The thing that changes is the groundspeed. If you land at 140 knots with no wind, you touch down at 140 knots, but if you have a 20 knot headwind, you land at 120 knots groundspeed.The equation for all of this is...0.5*(("Approach Airspeed"+"Head/Tailwind")*1.6878)*((("Approach Airspeed"+"Head/Tailwind")*1.6878)/"Autobrake Decellaration Rate")+1000 ^Glideslope is 1000 feet beyond threashold. Eric Vander Pilot and Controller Boston Virtual ATC KATL - The plural form of cow. KORD - Something you put in a power socket. UNIT - Something of measure My 747 Fuel Calculator
September 29, 201015 yr Vapp = Vref + correctionCorrection = half hw component + full hw gust component, min 5kt , max 20ktHeadwind component: |\ hw |a\ wind speed |__\ xwa = angle between runway and wind directionHigh School trignometrycos a = hw / wind spdhw = wind spd * cos a Sample problem Runway heading 340Wind reported at 300/10-20Vref = 130ktAngle btn Runway and Wind, 'a' = 40degSteady Wind Speed, 'w1' = 10ktGust Component, 'w2' = 20kt - w1 = 20kt - 10kt = 10ktSteady HW component = w1 * cos a = 10 * cos 40 = 8ktGust HW component = w2 * cos a = 10 * cos 40 = 8ktVapp = Vref + 1/2 (Steady HW Component) + Gust HW Component = 130kt + (8kt / 2) + 8kt = 130kt + 4kt + 8kt = 142kt Hope that helps!Nick Jones
September 29, 201015 yr Author Thanks asdf987, very good.This was exactly what I needed.Happy landings!Christos
September 29, 201015 yr Great stuff asdf987. Scott Kalin VATSIM #1125397 - KPSP Palm Springs International AirportSpace Shuttle (SSMS2007) http://www.space-shu....com/index.htmlOrbiter 2010P1 http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/
September 29, 201015 yr I quickly wrote a wind component calculator for the people who are too lazy to do the calcs on the fly.http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=13858586255180623145&gk=hyip
September 30, 201015 yr This is helpful as well http://www.paragonair.com/public/aircraft/calc_crosswind.html
September 30, 201015 yr Actually, in the FMC of the 744X both crosswind and tail/headwind components are shown. I think is page 2 of the Progress menu. I don´t know about the others PMDG planes. Felipe Andrade at SBSP
September 30, 201015 yr Felipe,We need to consider approach winds, rather than the cruise winds that would be displayed in the progress page, as we set up the arrival prior to top of descent.Cheers,Nick Jones
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