I thought it well to start a message where we could put a list together for MS of things in FS2004 that needs to be addressed in a patch or next release:1. The drop in frame rate after flying for a while2. The fact that you can not request runway lights in bad visibility and have to wait until it drops below 5mi to get approach lights and 2mi to get runway lights3. The online weather update every 15 minutes are not accurate and if it wasn't for Chris Willis' clouds, the default 3d clouds are unflyable unless you have a Pentium 7 with 4 Gb RAM4. The strange fog behaviour arround mountains5. The power settings for some aircraft are totally unrealistic while the same aircraft with the same *.air file will perform completely different in FS20026. The problems with video cards (reflections, 2d panels, stuttering etc.) while the same video card will have no problem in any other program7. The bizarre problem with some bridges8. The zig zag vectoring by ATC for landing while you could still not request a 'straight in' approach and ATC clearance for a take-off on a active runway with a 15 knts tail wind9. The mess with timezones (enough said)10. The TOWER view (where you look at your plane landing in Heathrow from the tower in Boston)11. Sound problems (this is a FS2004 bug because no other game or program put any sound in a loop or distortion) and the relationship with DirectX12. Aircraft that jump up and down at certain airports, a terrain problem, mesh or what ever? Also the bleed through of ground textures where taxi ways dissapear. (All of this at defailt airports)I'm too tired to write anymore. Maybe you could add your 2 cents.RegardsTerblanche

Also....The rather strange scenery that has shown up in a few places(EG: see the post on here by "Pilot Heinrich" about McMurdo)

Ya , MS, I am limited to rural flying..no big cities..but it is nice.Do something..especially the haze thing..Thanks! :)MB

I definitely think that the haze of limited visibility has been exaggerated in FS9. It was probably exaggerated on purpose because people complained that the weather was too boring. That's my theory anyway. I'm sure it's an easy fix for MS.

At the very least MS should provide us with some sort of solid performance patch to get rid of all the stutters/jerkiness...plus make it an option to switch between fs2002/2004 clouds...the simulator left the way it is, is of little use to me unless im flying in a stock ga aircraft away from a major metropolitan airport...its such a shame they released this thing while leaving behind all the smoothness that fs2002 had when it was released....please MS, dont leave us hanging...give us a really good performance increase hereDave Kalin

Hi Guys,I would like to see all the issues addressed as well. I searched MS flight simulator website to see if there was a way that we could convey directly with the flight simulator team all of our concerns. However there appears to be no such medium provided. All that we have is the MS knowledge base where some of the problems that we are already aware of are outlined.http://www.microsoft.com/games/flightsimulator/support.aspI have heard that MS peruse these forums. Wouldn

Hi everyone in this thread.Please bear with me while I start my reply a little far off topic; I will violently gain control of the subject as I reach the end of my post.I live in Italy. Today I was looking at a stupid little program that allowed to fly-by over my country in 3D. Terrain, as well as cities, was all rendered from satelite photos. Here and there, on towns of major interest, auto-gen like historical buildings were placed to enhance the flying experience. I'm talking about a small application residing on a CD coming out of a computer magazine. Not a pretentuous "as real as it gets" kind of thing. It was running both with DirectX 7.0 (yes, 7.0) and OpenGL on a rather old machine in my office. You wouldn't believe how much better it looked than the unfinished product I bought from MS a few weeks ago. I realized I'm sick of flying out of my town, only to realize everything looks exactly the same if I decide to slew over to northern Alaska. I'm beginning to consider the whole auto-gen thing a real failure, as well as the weather system getting totally out of control; I'm seeing flickers of any kind on mountain ridges far away, clouds cutting through mountain sides as if they were butter, square miles of land looking like a huge cake melting on the pavement, entire seas composed of huge square tiles like a mad man's patchwork...They call it "as real as it gets", I call it my worst nightmare!I won't go on telling you my system specs. I've posted them already a few times on this forum, and FS2004 should run flawlessly on my rig. My video card alone is worth more than half of my monthly income. I've spent YEARS in tweaking, and I know what I'm doing. I've spent days in tweaking the simulator, and I'm sick of it. I haven't yet succesfully ended a flight. My computer crashes long before. FS2004 is a completely unfinished piece of software. An experiment of what is no longer and what could be one day. Not an existing thing of its own. Still, Microsoft put it on store shelves; and we bought it. Damn.I'm very skeptical about a patch, although I agree with the list in the first post; but Terblanche only opened Pandora's vase.I'm sorry if frustration has brought me to this endless complaint. My next flight experience will be a pilot's license.For the time being I'm Returning to Castle Wolfenstein. Thanks for being with me.luca

>I live in Italy. Today I was looking at a stupid little>program that allowed to fly-by over my country in 3D. Terrain,>as well as cities, was all rendered from satelite photos. Here>and there, on towns of major interest, auto-gen like>historical buildings were placed to enhance the flying>experience. I'm talking about a small application residing on>a CD coming out of a computer magazine. Not a pretentuous "as>real as it gets" kind of thing. Wow, that sounds great, what other parts of the world can you fly over with that little program?

Hi,I just want to say that I agree with Terblanche, the author of the original post, that there are some things in FS2004 that should be fixed by MS. I have seen a lot of posts about losing FPS on approach/final at airports, and how it is very difficult to fly near cities due to loss of performance, which I think relates to his point #1. If you want MS to patch this version of the sim up, then write them like I did at [email protected] my e-mail I told them about a few problems I observed that I thought should be patched, and that after finding a temporary fix for autogen problems(renaming the 'default.xml' file) that I really liked the sim a lot. In other words, it was not a 'hate mail', it was respectful.Patches come out for most all software I purchase that are discovered to have problems/bugs because the vendor cares about the product and it's customers. Is MS any different in this respect? Let's hope not, but to me they do seem pretty closed mouth about any such relationship. It would indeed be nice to know if they are planning on releasing a patch concerning some obvious problems. Missing/messy looking bridges anyone(point #7)? I don't neccessarily expect perfection, but it would be nice of them to at least address a couple of the most glaring issues.I repeat, if you want MS to do something, you need to write them at [email protected],Jim

I for one will not hold my breath about MS patching anything in COF. May never happen. Soooooo...now where too! Well come the middle of next year the newest heavy weight processors will likely make this formidible piece of code run at an average frame rate of 20 plus with all bells and whistles and addon complex aircraft. That is the way it was for me with FS2002. IT RUNS GREAT NOW!!!Good luckTony

OneTinSoldier,That was exactly what I was looking for :-).I will be getting together some information now and mailing it to [email protected] a matter of interest. Did you ever get a reply from them?Regards,Stephen B

Hi Stephen B,Yes, and no. I got an automated reply letting me know my e-mail was received. And I'm with Tony, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for a patch, it's just that if there are lots and lots of people that have problems/issues and then write to microsoft about, I think we'd have a better chance at getting one. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I think it would be a very nice gesture and show concern and caring about their product and customers if they do address a couple of issues. It is what many other companies do. If they choose not too, then I may perhaps be a little more apprehensive about buying the next release, and at least I certainly would not do what I did this time, which was pre-order it.Cheers,Jim

There are a lot of problems with FS9 unfortunately. The biggest problem I face is with the weather, and it's unrealistic wind speed. To have the wind blow every plane around like a kite is ridiculous. I find I don't even use the weather, dynamic or otherwise, because it has such poor effects. I do see the wall of haze and also think that's a big problem. All in all, FS9 is full of mistakes and unrealistic features, so I've been using 2002 more than anything. I hope they try and patch the product, or I might not buy the next one. MS seems to not care whether their software has problems, thus requiring patches. FS9 won't be much better on a higher end system 3 years from now either. If the wind, haze, scenery, or other related issues aren't fixed, then a 10 Ghz CPU with 2 Gig of RAM and a 500 MB video card won't make a difference.

I don't know if you are aware but on the Screenshot forum there is an article dealing with how to enable nice water reflection if you have not a US computer.You should set your computer to US system.The trick was found by AIH781http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...84561&mode=fullHope MS will release a patch for that real bug!!! (Their fault this time...)Minos

Hay guys!Everybody just e-mail microsoft!I just sent an e-mail to: [email protected] If we flood them with tons of e-mail they might actually do something! especially the "Haze" problem is killing me!!!regards,Reza