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O.T 747 @ Fleetweek 2010

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Wow!!! Amazing 747-400 flying at SanFran Fleetweek 2010!!

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Pretty cool - I was at Fleet Week 09 on a boat in the bay, got to watch the Blue Angels show right under the show path, pretty sweet!

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Yeah, that was cool! Philly fans looking for ksfo? <g>side note: I saw a Delta 744 parked at the G side of the itn'l terminal ...a 1st for me.

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This video has been on my local news all morning. Saying that some people think it causes concern at how close they were to the Golden Gate bridge... Some people seem to sit at home just waiting for the next thing to gripe about I guess. The end of the segment, they show another angle of landings/departures showing that it is more than far enough away.I love seeing Alcatraz in this clip. One place I still want to visit someday.

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Dan Prunier

Funny you mention that, Dan. CNN and some of the national outlets were all over ot like this was some high act of terrorism, but the San Francisco news outlets have barely made mention of it that I've seen. Its another example of national outrage by the class you call those wiating for their next thing to gripe about, when the people in the locality barely noticed.

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Remember when Air Force One was doing that photo op over NYC?Same sort of reaction, every body goes crazy.Same thing when the FAA didnt make public the bird strike report after the Airbus went down in the Hudson. I dont know if it is the nature of heavier than air flight, the fact that so many people dont know a darn thing about flight, that they think flying they immediately think terrorism (have the TSA to thank for that, take of my shoes, stupid.), but people just get this irrational thinking about flight that for the most part is born out of ignorance, and CNN, MSNBC, FOX are all to willing to exploit ignorance, turning it into their own fertile famrland to grow their crap.

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Pretty cool - I was at Fleet Week 09 on a boat in the bay, got to watch the Blue Angels show right under the show path, pretty sweet!
Wow,That sounds like the best seat in the house,I've seen the BA's a few times[never from a boat though] in my hometown in Chicago,Always a fantastic show,The Pilot of The United 747 really knows how to fly this baby!! It's just amazing to see something this big lumbering along in the sky so low and slow doing flight maneuvers.seems almost impossible.

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I used to love seeing the Angles when I lived in Ft Lauderdale during fleet week there. They were topped, however by a tour of the SSN USS Hampton during fleet week.

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 I dont know if it is the nature of heavier than air flight, the fact that so many people dont know a darn thing about flight,  that they think flying they immediately think terrorism (have the TSA to thank for that, take of my shoes, stupid.), but people just get this irrational thinking about flight that for the most part is born out of ignorance, and CNN, MSNBC, FOX are all to willing to exploit ignorance, turning it into their own fertile famrland to grow their crap.
Don't get me started on the DoHS and TSA. The need for a TWIC card had me sitting in a hotel room waiting on a flight home last week. They wouldn't be needed if business had been handled properly back in the 90s.

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I can't believe someone didn't sue over the TWIC program, at least as it applies to foreign-born citizens. Citizens are citizens and should be treated equally under the law. (Condolences if you're a foreign national, in which case you're SOL, but I still agree its a stupid rule.)

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The uproar over this is so typical of our media unfortunately... they know nothing about aviation (or about optics and photography for that matter) and yet they write articles insinuating there was some kind of risk in this event... Really makes you wonder what else they get wrong outside of aviation doesn't it?

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I rarely pay any attention to any of that media anymore, they will take a story, and distort it however much necessary to make it interesting to people. The obviously flaw with saying that having a 747 flying so closing to the bridge is dangerous that I'm pretty sure the only people in that plane were the pilots, neither of which is very likely to be a terrorist! And even if there were passengers, theres a ridiculously small chance of any of them being terrorists either. And another flaw that quickly comes to my mind is that even if you don't let planes fly that close to the bridge, do you think the hijackers would care about that law much? And by the time they get close enough to the bridge, isn't it far too late to stop them?Its fun shooting apart faulty news stories, isn't it?Its too bad that so many people associate aviation with terrorism.

Greg Hetherington

The uproar over this is so typical of our media unfortunately... they know nothing about aviation (or about optics and photography for that matter) and yet they write articles insinuating there was some kind of risk in this event... Really makes you wonder what else they get wrong outside of aviation doesn't it?
They tend to get politics wrong for one, and the whole system has suffered for it.I remember watching on CNN where a guy from Boeing was talking about the new Dreamliner as it had just made its European debut, and the talk somehow shifted towards the new navigatoin system baesd on GPS, and was the anchor was appalled to hear that airplanes currently navigate on technology that was decades old (someone dont tell him how old the MD80 is that he just flew in). The guy from Boeing said then how a new GNS system could improve oceanic flights due to the obvious lack of terrestiral navaids over the water, and the anchor made a real stupid comment about planes flying over the ocean then using the same methods that Charles Limburgh used. The guy from Boeing had this look on his face like "Are you kidding?", then chuckled and said, "No, it is a tad more complicated then that.". It is a testament to how far we have come in aviation that young mothers and their babies can fly a red-eye flight in a plane weighing over 300.000 lbs at 35000 feet above sea level with the piece of mind to actually fall asleep. But yet actually question the methods at which things are brought about. I remember flying on a flight sitting next to a stranger and I was sitting at the window and I was going over my head, mumbling some of my thoughts out load apparently, about what the pilot was doing during the initial takeoff. The passenger then said, "Are you serious, the plane is really on autopilot already." I said, "Of course, we are well over a thousand feet over the ground now." She said, "That doesnt sound right, seems dangerous to not have the pilot in contorl, I bet he is still flying the plane." I guess the real problem is that the ordinary person knows so little about aviation (I bet 1 in about 1000 know how an air foil actually really creates lift), but yet feel they know enough to pass judgement. When I told my brother that planes to not navigate via GPS, he thought I was crazy. I mentioned that primary navigation is usually inertial, and he looked at me like I was crazy. "But if a car can have GPS navigation, why can't they put that in an airplane." And with our "sound bite" culture that has hijacked out mass media news outlets, we have the Boeing rep relegated to the remark "It is more complicated", rather than being able to elaborate on the fact that you are quite safe when flying across the pond, no need to worry about your flight to Paris accidently making landfall somewhere in Mid-Africa.That is why if anybody ever asks me about Aviation, either airplanes, the piloting of airplanes, or air navigation, I will always be more than happy to talk about it and see if I can teach them something and give them a new and more accurate perception on man kinds second greatest achievement.

Scott Kalin VATSIM #1125397 - KPSP Palm Springs International Airport
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The uproar over this is so typical of our media unfortunately... they know nothing about aviation (or about optics and photography for that matter) and yet they write articles insinuating there was some kind of risk in this event... Really makes you wonder what else they get wrong outside of aviation doesn't it?
I think is typical of media at all. Situation got tense here in Brazil during the "Air Chaos" following GOL 1907 collision with the ExcelAire N600XL, and media coverage were not helping. Thanks to this coverage, people couldn´t understand why so many delays and hell fell down onto companies. Major problems with our ATC services (that resulted from other conjectural problems) caused great stress over here.

Felipe Andrade at SBSP

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