Hi guys, I have very specific request here. I´m using vroute for my flight planning. Now I would like to fly GEC8210 and 8211 flights - Lufthansa Cargo flights from Frankfurt, Germany to Dallas, TX (EDDF-KDFW) and back. The route from KDFW to EDDF is not stored in vroute. I tried to enter it by myself based on the real route from Flightaware, but with no success (due to some errors). Could someone please try to enter this route to vroute so I can use it? I can´t do it by myself as I´m not so familiar with this advanced flight planning. Thank you in advance.

Hi,I can't do it for you, but what I frequently do if a (long) route doesn't exist in Vroute, is combining shorter routes that are available.So for example look up EDDF-KJFK in Vroute and then KJFK-KDFW and combine both.

Hi guys, I have very specific request here. I´m using vroute for my flight planning. Now I would like to fly GEC8210 and 8211 flights - Lufthansa Cargo flights from Frankfurt, Germany to Dallas, TX (EDDF-KDFW) and back. The route from KDFW to EDDF is not stored in vroute. I tried to enter it by myself based on the real route from Flightaware, but with no success (due to some errors). Could someone please try to enter this route to vroute so I can use it? I can´t do it by myself as I´m not so familiar with this advanced flight planning. Thank you in advance.

Wouldn't such a route change daily based on the North Atlantic Track system, or does Lufthansa Cargo has a fixed route they always use? Regards,David Vega

More than likely it would change daily due to the NATS.Here's was todays route:EDDF BIBTI1F.BIBTI UZ28 SUPUR UP1 GODOS UM981 NATEB UL602 GOW UN580 TIR UN572 GINGA UN572 GOMUP 5800N/02000W 5900N/03000W 5900N/04000W 5900N/05000W PRAWN YDP N356C ROUND TVC BAE J105 RZC FSM.BYP5 KDFWAnd the return:TRISS3 TXK J42 MEM J42 RBV J62 RIFLE CUTOX KANNI N37B BANCS NATU ELSOX EVRIN UL607 SPI UT180 DITEL Keep in mind the route may change closer to or even after departure.

Try this link:http://www.simroutes.com/fb2/showplans.aspxSimroute is a common flight sim route planner. Just be sure to check the route for errors. Almost any type of aircraft can be planned using their tool.Tom

Taken from here airac cycle 1011ID FREQ TRK DIST Coords Name/RemarksEDDF 0 0 N50°01'59.89" E008°34'13.64" FRANKFURT MAINANEKI 186 43 N49°19'02.18" E008°28'49.54" ANEKINEKLO 186 2 N49°17'10.00" E008°28'35.00" NEKLOBADLI 186 13 N49°03'49.00" E008°26'51.00" BADLIPABLA 194 17 N48°47'18.91" E008°21'07.09" PABLAHERBI 195 18 N48°29'27.00" E008°14'37.00" HERBIMOPAN 195 15 N48°14'46.95" E008°09'16.33" MOPANOLBEN 202 60 N47°18'15.92" E007°37'46.10" OLBENLUTIX 233 13 N47°09'54.37" E007°22'14.39" LUTIXBENOT 233 10 N47°03'28.00" E007°10'22.00" BENOTNEMOS 233 14 N46°54'43.00" E006°54'24.00" NEMOSVEROX 233 18 N46°43'39.00" E006°34'24.00" VEROXMILPA 230 38 N46°18'09.00" E005°52'47.00" MILPANINTU 238 16 N46°08'50.00" E005°33'11.00" NINTUMEBAK 237 46 N45°42'29.00" E004°38'56.00" MEBAKREPSI 237 19 N45°31'21.00" E004°16'31.00" REPSILERGA 237 27 N45°15'26.00" E003°45'01.00" LERGAMOKDI 237 31 N44°57'25.00" E003°10'01.00" MOKDIOLRAK 236 17 N44°47'04.00" E002°50'14.00" OLRAKROMAK 241 18 N44°37'48.00" E002°29'20.00" ROMAKNASEP 241 13 N44°30'54.00" E002°13'56.00" NASEPNARAK 241 25 N44°17'43.00" E001°44'56.00" NARAKAGN 114.8 241 45 N43°53'16.90" E000°52'22.30" AGEN-GAUDONVILLEPIPOR 243 101 N43°00'32.55" W001°06'29.16" PIPORPPN 112.3 242 31 N42°44'01.50" W001°42'07.20" PAMPLONAVASUM 210 31 N42°16'18.91" W002°00'39.59" VASUMBAN 112.8 210 63 N41°19'24.83" W002°37'47.25" BARAHONAMITUM 219 49 N40°38'44.27" W003°14'52.07" MITUMBOSIO 219 22 N40°20'27.10" W003°31'14.10" BOSIOGOTOR 219 17 N40°06'38.80" W003°43'28.20" GOTORKAMPO 218 27 N39°44'00.00" W004°03'19.40" KAMPOMONTO 218 37 N39°13'18.36" W004°29'48.58" MONTOMOLIN 218 16 N39°00'00.00" W004°41'08.72" MOLINHIJ 114.7 218 35 N38°30'29.28" W005°05'58.86" HINOJOSASVL 113.7 211 72 N37°25'39.30" W005°45'44.00" SEVILLACLANA 225 72 N36°30'32.00" W006°43'37.11" CLANAKORNO 225 53 N35°50'00.00" W007°25'00.00" KORNOABODA 225 32 N35°24'50.00" W007°50'00.00" ABODAIBALU 225 75 N34°26'40.00" W008°47'21.00" IBALUAMETA 224 110 N32°59'51.00" W010°08'54.00" AMETATURMA 224 94 N31°45'14.00" W011°16'39.00" TURMAVEDOD 224 94 N30°30'21.00" W012°22'24.00" VEDODTERTO 224 30 N30°06'15.00" W012°43'02.00" TERTOLZR 115.2 224 70 N29°09'57.61" W013°30'38.61" LANZAROTEGODIV 245 120 N28°04'37.75" W015°25'42.84" GODIVLIMAL 222 219 N25°00'00.00" W017°37'32.00" LIMALISOKA 222 206 N22°04'53.00" W019°35'24.00" ISOKAIPERA 222 120 N20°21'54.00" W020°42'00.00" IPERANEMDO 242 210 N18°05'57.00" W023°31'54.00" NEMDOSVT 333 242 116 N16°49'44.96" W025°03'52.65" ST VICENTEEDIPA 253 81 N16°07'55.00" W026°16'00.00" EDIPAKENOX 253 152 N14°46'48.00" W028°29'36.00" KENOXSAGRO 225 288 N10°35'00.00" W030°51'48.00" SAGRODIGUN 226 63 N09°39'39.00" W031°22'14.00" DIGUNPOKSI 325 221 N11°51'03.86" W034°23'02.03" POKSIIRELA 324 220 N14°00'00.00" W037°26'00.00" IRELAPAKER 317 169 N15°20'00.00" W040°00'00.00" PAKERBUTUX 316 348 N18°00'00.00" W045°22'48.00" BUTUXFIVZE 318 918 N25°00'00.00" W060°00'00.00" FIVZEKOZIK 314 230 N26°48'26.75" W063°45'01.63" KOZIKBRKZZ 310 72 N27°19'13.87" W064°57'44.45" BRKZZMEGGG 309 150 N28°21'40.08" W067°31'42.68" MEGGGDUNIG 307 70 N28°49'24.12" W068°44'26.85" DUNIGGALVN 306 210 N30°09'32.35" W072°26'51.34" GALVNFLUPS 298 82 N30°34'36.20" W073°57'24.48" FLUPSJAINS 297 163 N31°21'20.05" W077°00'00.13" JAINSOLDEY 329 70 N32°15'44.21" W077°51'13.81" OLDEYPANAL 4 21 N32°36'32.77" W077°52'32.87" PANALDIW 198 17 120 N34°34'06.72" W077°27'10.56" DIXONILM 117 246 25 N34°21'05.99" W077°52'27.76" WILMINGTONBARTL 274 39 N34°18'11.44" W078°39'05.38" BARTLMULLS 273 18 N34°16'43.61" W079°00'53.44" MULLSDWYTE 272 13 N34°15'40.28" W079°16'00.61" DWYTEFLO 115.2 271 19 N34°13'58.56" W079°39'25.61" FLORENCECAE 114.7 259 73 N33°51'26.10" W081°03'14.06" COLUMBIAIRQ 113.9 266 56 N33°42'26.47" W082°09'43.43" COLLIERSAJFEB 272 100 N33°38'25.26" W084°10'13.72" AJFEBATL 116.9 269 13 N33°37'44.65" W084°26'06.25" ATLANTAVUZ 114.4 274 123 N33°40'12.67" W086°53'59.27" VULCANSQS 114.7 267 169 N33°27'49.90" W090°16'38.40" SIDONKDFW 264 341 N32°53'48.60" W097°02'16.80" DALLAS FORT WORTH INTLvololiberista

Taken from the same as above using NAT's.EDDF (0.0nm) -SID-> ULKIG (34.3nm) -Y180-> RUDOT (66.7nm) -Y180->BITBU (79.9nm) -Y181-> MAKIK (95.2nm) -UY181-> GOPAS (98.9nm) -UY181->DEMUL (102.5nm) -UM624-> RITAX (112.0nm) -UM624-> REMBA (161.0nm) -UM624->BUB (181.3nm) -UL608-> DENUT (220.1nm) -UL610-> LUMEN (229.7nm) -UL610->BULAM (254.9nm) -UL610-> DIBLI (273.5nm) -UL610-> RAPIX (283.5nm) -UL610->TEBRA (298.3nm) -UL610-> KOPUL (316.3nm) -UL610-> GILDA (337.3nm) -UM14->FERIT (339.8nm) -UM14-> WESUL (342.8nm) -UM14-> STOAT (371.2nm) -UL613->MOGLI (390.5nm) -UP6-> LESTA (429.6nm) -UP6-> TUMTI (457.6nm) -UP6->RODOL (470.9nm) -UP6-> KOLID (508.8nm) -UP6-> BILVO (526.7nm) -UP6->TUPEM (539.1nm) -UP6-> REMSI (553.3nm) -UP6-> MASOP (575.3nm) -UP6->NELBO (614.1nm) -UP6-> GOTNA (626.1nm) -UP6-> DIMLI (667.2nm) -UN570->DONIB (726.5nm) -UN570-> GINGA (820.6nm) -UN572-> GOMUP (837.5nm) -NATD->59N020W (1177.2nm) -NATD-> 60N030W (1487.5nm) -NATD-> 59N040W (1797.7nm) -NATD->57N050W (2137.4nm) -NATD-> LOACH (2387.6nm) -NATD-> FOXXE (2487.4nm) -N276A->SPOTE (2788.1nm) -N282A-> MT (3112.6nm) -N312A-> YUY (3313.0nm) -N312A->SSM (3556.1nm) -J101-> GRB (3753.8nm) -J101-> BAE (3840.3nm) -J105->VORIN (3945.4nm) -J105-> BDF (3971.3nm) -J181-> NORIS (4013.2nm) -J105->MAGOO (4057.9nm) -J181-> BAYLI (4081.9nm) -J105-> WELTS (4135.0nm) -J105->ELSTO (4162.8nm) -J105-> ULMAN (4207.4nm) -J105-> SGF (4258.4nm) -J105->RZC (4335.1nm) -Q21-> JONEZ (4457.9nm) -STAR-> KDFW (4583.0nm)

If you're doing the flight on the same day as the real world operation, or any time if you dont care about using the correct track, just check the flightaware flightplan using the callsign.http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GEC8210

this one actually has the Flight Plan listed. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH439