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Help diagnosing a POST Issue

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Hey guys,I have an Asus P5E X38 chipset board and a EVGA GTX 8800 768mb card, along with a Core 2 E6850. Ancient stuff, I know, but fast enough for my FS9 setup.For no apparent reason, the system won't POST now. On power-up, the fans spin, I hear power from all the drives... but no beeps at all and my monitor stays in standby mode. The P5E manual says that a certain sequence of beeps will be heard if VGA is not detected. However, I'm not hearing anything when the card is seated or removed. I only hear beeps when I remove the memory. I haven't tried removing the CPU.Do you suspect the board or the card? It's all powered by PC Power&Cooling 750w.Is there anyway to test the card while the system is on to see if it's getting power. I have a pretty basic voltage tester but have never used it. And my 2nd pc is even more ancient than this one so I can't swap the parts.Thanks for any suggestions.Rob

Rob Simmons

 

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What I would do is to reset the bios - usually a jumper on the mobo - follow the instructions in the manual.Then, remove or disconnect everything, memory, video, drives and power up.You should get beeps - if you do then the board and CPU are probably ok - then start adding the memory and repeat and so on. See if you can determine what is the issue. Can you get another old video card to test?IIRC the 8800 has two connectors - try another one.Vic

 

RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti
40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160 

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Thanks for the reply, Vic. I did some searching on the Asus forums. The general consensus points towards a dead mobo. I never would have guessed because I thought 'dead' meant absolutely no power would go thru it. Luckily, it is a 3-year old board and I can pick one up for cheap on ebay probably.I've previously done everything you suggested, with the exception of removing the cpu. (only because the cooling setup is complicated lol) I only get beeps when the memory isn't installed. Oh well, I'll consider the matter closed here, and go further in on the asus forums. I plan to build a system for fsx, but am patiently waiting for the new intel chips to come out next year.Thanks again for your reply!Rob

Rob Simmons

 

Check suggestions here. Beep codes (once you get them) here. If you're MB is dead, wait for Sandy Bridge (Intel's nextgen microarchitecture) on Jan 9th!Cheers,- jahman.

This has happened to me before. Your board isn't getting enough power for some reason, probably because of overclocking -- it seems our old x38 chipsets get confused sometims. I've been able to solve the issue by resetting the bios, completely unplugging the power supply, remove the RAM, replug in the power, then reboot, then shut off again. I then replace ONE of my RAM sticks turn the power on and it should POST.It's not a dead board -- and your hardware looksjust fine to me for FS9. Batting%20Eyelashes.gif HTH

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

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Thanks again for the help guys. I went DEEP into the Asus forums and found the prob. Turns out one of my crucial ballistix was the cause. One stick will let me post in any of the 4 slots. But the other stick won't post in any of them. I wish those useless, colorful, flashing lights would go out as a sign that the stick was no longer working lol. Now I'm running on 2gb mem.Would you believe this problem happened back in May? I gave up on FS life right when it happened and I've been saving money for a new build ever since. I can't believe I haven't flown since May. I'm so excited that I will be back in the air sometime this evening.And Jahman, yes, come Jan 9th I will be building a sandy bridge!Thanks again guys!Rob

Rob Simmons

 

Glad to hear you're rolling! Let us know how it goes with Sandy Bridge when you get there.Cheers,- jahman.

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Well, I didn't go flying yesterday. Spent all night organizing the inside of my case and did some OC work. My CPU is stable at 3.6 but I'm thinking my sole remaining crucial mem stick is also on its way out. And silly me, I had a 2 x 1GB setup. I could have sworn it was a 2 x 2GB. They were DDR2-800 but the P5E manual says it can handle up to DDR2-1066. Any recommendations on a 2x2gb set? And don't say Crucial because in all my years of pc building, this is the first time I've had memory fail on me.Thanks!!

Rob Simmons

 

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Well, I didn't go flying yesterday. Spent all night organizing the inside of my case and did some OC work. My CPU is stable at 3.6 but I'm thinking my sole remaining crucial mem stick is also on its way out. And silly me, I had a 2 x 1GB setup. I could have sworn it was a 2 x 2GB. They were DDR2-800 but the P5E manual says it can handle up to DDR2-1066. Any recommendations on a 2x2gb set? And don't say Crucial because in all my years of pc building, this is the first time I've had memory fail on me.Thanks!!
I have never had a problem with mushkin.Vic

 

RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti
40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160 

I bought that Crucial "High Performance" memory when I did my first build and wasn't very happy with it's performance either. I have OCZ Dominator in my Flight Sim box that OCs nicely to 1089 and has been stable all along. It's coming up on 2 years old. Please let me know how you make out; where you end up finding some good DDR2 these days.

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

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Chuck, I usually make all my purchases at newegg and found a 2x2 set of corsairs for $95. Didn't see any OCZ but will look closer. I'm not making the purchase til Wed so I may keep an eye out for something else. Thanks for the Mushkin referral, Vic.Rob

Rob Simmons

 

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I found these at newegg for $80. The previous Corsairs I mentioned for $95 are in newegg's 'high performance gaming' category. But these have been reviewed over 1600 times and seems pretty solid. I don't wanna go overboard with costs as I'm planning to build a new rig in the near future. Any thoughts?Chuck, where did you get your Dominators? Couldn't find any on DDR2's on newegg. Maybe ebay when I get a moment to look.Thanks,Rob(working on a sig) lol

Rob Simmons

 

I found these at newegg for $80. The previous Corsairs I mentioned for $95 are in newegg's 'high performance gaming' category. But these have been reviewed over 1600 times and seems pretty solid. I don't wanna go overboard with costs as I'm planning to build a new rig in the near future. Any thoughts?Chuck, where did you get your Dominators? Couldn't find any on DDR2's on newegg. Maybe ebay when I get a moment to look.Thanks,Rob(working on a sig) lol
I got them at Newegg, too, but that was "back in the day". I just did a scan over at ebay and I couldn't find them in the first couple of pages of listings. Like I said, hard to find nowadays . . . EDIT: Rob: When I bought mine I wanted to be sure I bought PC8500 -- those you're looking at are PC6400. The difference in price was about 40 bucks (I think) but I didn't want to cheap out on something as vital as RAM. Just my two cents -- there are many here much more knowledgable than I who may chime in.

Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B.

 

MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS

MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5

MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander

I found these at newegg for $80. The previous Corsairs I mentioned for $95 are in newegg's 'high performance gaming' category. But these have been reviewed over 1600 times and seems pretty solid. I don't wanna go overboard with costs as I'm planning to build a new rig in the near future. Any thoughts?Chuck, where did you get your Dominators? Couldn't find any on DDR2's on newegg. Maybe ebay when I get a moment to look.Thanks,Rob(working on a sig) lol
too bad you werent close to Toronto I have a pair of those sitting here going to waste. I have more pc-6400 sticks around here than i can shake a stick at. All from upgrading, 4x1GB, then moved to 2x2 then wanted to try pc8500 e.t.c.

Regards,
Gary Andersen

HAF932 Advanced, ASUS Z690-P D4, i5-12600k @4.9,NH-C14S, 2x8GB DDR4 3600, RM850x PSU,Sata DVD, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB storage, W10-Pro on Intel 750 AIC 800GB PCI-Express,MSI RTX3070 LHR 8GB, AW2720HF, VS238, Card Reader, SMT750 UPS.

too bad you werent close to Toronto I have a pair of those sitting here going to waste. I have more pc-6400 sticks around here than i can shake a stick at. All from upgrading, 4x1GB, then moved to 2x2 then wanted to try pc8500 e.t.c.
No PayPal and Candian Mail/FedEx/UPS in Toronto? :-)

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