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Upgrading my Comp for FSX.

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Hello everyone. Last year I had a custom build my pc for my sim. I havent made the Jump to FSX like I intended to last year. Well, now with the NGX coming online soon I'm looking into spending a little bit of cash and purchase a new graphic card. With my rig now FS9 runs like a beauty. I get between 30 and 40 FPS with payware AC and payware scenery. I know it's gonna be tough but I would like something close to that on FSX. SO this is what i have now. Gigabyte GA-EX58 UD4P motherboard Intel i7 965 Quad core Processor. Antec True power 1000 power supply. Corsair 6Gig Memory 2 Terobytes of memory Creative Labs X-FI Titanium sound card 7.1 FSX- acceleration pack OEM Vista Home premium 64Bit Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 1024MB GDDR3 3 VIZIO 32" 10A LCDFHDTV(just purchased triple head2go) I'm looking into Buying a GTX 480, or maybe two. My question is what else would i need to get FSX running smoothly? and If I do get Two GTX 480 and run it together, would that work? Or just having one GTX 480 will get thee job done? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I attached a picture of what it looks like now. Thanks Jairo

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Well first off, don't get a 480 - it's been replaced by the new 570, which is cheaper, faster and uses a lot less power/heat. I just installed one yesterday... SLI doesn't have much benefit in FSX, I wouldn't get two cards unless you play other games that can benefit from that.I'm still putting it through its paces in FSX - I'm honestly not seeing a huge difference vs. what I had before in terms of framerate (GTX260) - the sim is just so CPU-bound...Are you overclocking your i7? That's the single biggest thing you can do to get performance up in FSX.

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Have to agree with Ryan. Go for the 5 series nvidia for sure. On the other hand get a decent cooler and overclock your cpu to around 4GHz. By the way this rig is cool.

Laszlo Meszaros

Ahhhh ok so glad i decided to ask you folks. I actually haven't touched it since it was built. I really don't know how to overclock it. Will do some research for it. I really don't play any other games than FS. Thank you guys. Jairo

Ryan, can the 570 handle thick clouds at 16xAA please?

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Ryan, can the 570 handle thick clouds at 16xAA please?
- The two 16X modes in the Nvidia Control panel are coverage sample (CSAA) modes, which are a different algorithm than normal 4X or 8X multisampling - I tried those last night and the shimmering is pretty apparent because CSAA is not a supersampling-based method. CSAA is very fast though - there was no discernible performance hit. - There's 16xS (needs Nvidia Inspector to enable), which is slightly less than twice the levels present in the normal 8xS mode (8xS is 2x1 supersampling with 2X multisample and 16xS is 2x2 supersample with 4X multisample). I tried 16xS for a while earlier and there is a definite hit from it.I think 8xSQ may be the sweet spot for the card - that's 2x2 supersample with 2X multisample. I'm still trying stuff though.

Ryan Maziarz
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- The two 16X modes in the Nvidia Control panel are coverage sample (CSAA) modes, which are a different algorithm than normal 4X or 8X multisampling - I tried those last night and the shimmering is pretty apparent because CSAA is not a supersampling-based method. CSAA is very fast though - there was no discernible performance hit. - There's 16xS (needs Nvidia Inspector to enable), which is slightly less than twice the levels present in the normal 8xS mode (8xS is 2x1 supersampling with 2X multisample and 16xS is 2x2 supersample with 4X multisample). I tried 16xS for a while earlier and there is a definite hit from it.I think 8xSQ may be the sweet spot for the card - that's 2x2 supersample with 2X multisample. I'm still trying stuff though.
Thanks Ryan. I really don't know much about these things, I've tried 16xS in inspector and it was a slide show, even in clear skies. The hit at 8xSQ with clouds is quite aparent, but it really doesn't look that much better to me. I wonder how others see such a big difference with video card upgrades
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I just tried the 32X CSAA mode with 8X transparency AA on. It looks pretty good - there's a slight shimmer still there in the distance, but it's much better than at 16X. The mode is very fast too, I see no real hit from it. It's very sharp as well since it's not using supersampling, which has a tendency to blur and soften the image.That's probably correct that you'd see really low performance at 16xS with a 460, the 570 is basically a slightly better 480 performance wise, and the 480 is already way ahead of the 460, especially at high resolutions.

Ryan Maziarz
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Hello everyone. Last year I had a custom build my pc for my sim. I havent made the Jump to FSX like I intended to last year. Well, now with the NGX coming online soon I'm looking into spending a little bit of cash and purchase a new graphic card. With my rig now FS9 runs like a beauty. I get between 30 and 40 FPS with payware AC and payware scenery. I know it's gonna be tough but I would like something close to that on FSX. SO this is what i have now. Gigabyte GA-EX58 UD4P motherboard Intel i7 965 Quad core Processor. Antec True power 1000 power supply. Corsair 6Gig Memory 2 Terobytes of memory Creative Labs X-FI Titanium sound card 7.1 FSX- acceleration pack OEM Vista Home premium 64Bit Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 1024MB GDDR3 3 VIZIO 32" 10A LCDFHDTV(just purchased triple head2go) I'm looking into Buying a GTX 480, or maybe two. My question is what else would i need to get FSX running smoothly? and If I do get Two GTX 480 and run it together, would that work? Or just having one GTX 480 will get thee job done? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I attached a picture of what it looks like now. Thanks Jairo
I have a question that I haven't been able to find answers to. Your desk looks like a glass-top desk. Is it? If it is, how were you able to mount the yoke? Did you just mount it on the glass? I'm asking because my desk is also a glass-top desk (see attached picture) and I'm considering a yoke and a driving wheel (for racing), but I don't know how it will mount on glass, and I have no intention of changing my desk.Also, I'm considering getting the GTX 580, and I was wondering if the improvement would be worth it upgrading from a GTX 295, which is what came with my computer. Can someone please advise? ThanksChidiebere Anyahara

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Hello everyone. Last year I had a custom build my pc for my sim. I havent made the Jump to FSX like I intended to last year. Well, now with the NGX coming online soon I'm looking into spending a little bit of cash and purchase a new graphic card. With my rig now FS9 runs like a beauty. I get between 30 and 40 FPS with payware AC and payware scenery. I know it's gonna be tough but I would like something close to that on FSX. SO this is what i have now.Gigabyte GA-EX58 UD4P motherboard Intel i7 965 Quad core Processor. Antec True power 1000 power supply. Corsair 6Gig Memory2 Terobytes of memoryCreative Labs X-FI Titanium sound card 7.1 FSX- acceleration pack OEM Vista Home premium 64Bit Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 1024MB GDDR3 3 VIZIO 32" 10A LCDFHDTV(just purchased triple head2go) I'm looking into Buying a GTX 480, or maybe two. My question is what else would i need to get FSX running smoothly? and If I do get Two GTX 480 and run it together, would that work? Or just having one GTX 480 will get thee job done? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I attached a picture of what it looks like now. Thanks Jairo
You are almost there ... in your case I would ... OC the i7, move to W7/64, get a 5xx not 4xx vid card, and add a dedicated for FSX fast HD with large cache. Read "480 GTX vs. 580 GTX A Preliminary Overview for FSX" on the "Monitors, Video Cards and Drivers" AvSim forum. It seems there is a huge gain in FSX with the 580 if (i.e. IF) it can be fed. Currently to feed it optimally, an OC'd i7-9xx (triple channel low latency etc. memory (min 4G) is the ticket.

Cheers, Scott Ball

I recently purchased a new macbook pro for college, previously I have been playing fsx on a low end dell xps 200 desktop, So i am eager to see what the fps are like on an i7 laptop with a 512mb graphics card. Hoping it can preform well enough that I will be able to run the ngx at about 25fps. We will see though.

I recently purchased a new macbook pro for college, previously I have been playing fsx on a low end dell xps 200 desktop, So i am eager to see what the fps are like on an i7 laptop with a 512mb graphics card. Hoping it can preform well enough that I will be able to run the ngx at about 25fps. We will see though.
I also would be interested in your findings. Not sure about the 25fps though.

Cheers, Scott Ball

Here is a video of my FSX PC built in July - so I would replace the 470 with maybe the 570 now.I get 40 frames solid using the external frame limiter and its slick as anything..Hope it helpshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymQKAM_2Vqg

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Here is a video of my FSX PC built in July - so I would replace the 470 with maybe the 570 now.I get 40 frames solid using the external frame limiter and its slick as anything..Hope it helps
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