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Does anyone know how the new FSGenesis 76.4m STRM terrain for Europe compares with Lago's TerraMesh? Is it better, or worse ....?Thanks for any info.David

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It's going to require a bit of testing before anyone can give you a sensible answer so quickly! I had Lago's mesh ... installed Nanucq's 76.4 freeware mesh for UK which is better ... now we have this third option, and another freeware one at that! Good old Justin .... reverting after flying a few familiar haunts ....Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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>Does anyone know how the new FSGenesis 76.4m STRM terrain for>Europe compares with Lago's TerraMesh? Is it better, or worseI'd be interested in this question. I've got Lago terramesh for the whole of Europe - in my opinion it was the best addon purchase I've made.It's brilliant all my favourite mountains are well represented.But there are some exceptions. For some reason, the hills of Ireland looked like Pyramids! The terramesh documentation did say that Ireland was based on less precise data.An awful lot of terrain was missed out (despite downloaded patches). For example, a huge swathe of North Norway east of Tromso, the western fringes of the Outer Hebrides, and the French hills between the Pyrenees and the Alps aren't there (French Rivera?). There's probably more places as well.I have to say though that fs2004's handling of terrammesh is briliant - better frame rates and the addon mesh detail shows up on the map as well.

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Far better for Southwest England for me using the new FSGenesis, really good.Anthony......

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I've had Lago's & Faitmain's free UK, and I like FsGenesis the best..no more dead-flat land anywhere.

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My test will be to see if Brighton Marina is still on the edge of a steep hill (in the sea!)Presumably one has to "add it" into the scenery database in FS2004 before it works (and disable Lago and Faitman?)RegardsAdam Moore

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Southwest England, eh? My sim is crashing to desktop when I try to position to Plymouth or Exeter in the airport selection menu ... ever since I loaded FS Genesis mesh. Other airports I've tried further north seem OK.Anybody else care to test this and report?Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Yipe, you're right! I pulled it all out, but it still does it. (grrr).

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My version of Lago's TerraMesh for England and Wales does include the whole of Wales. Don't know what you are running ????David

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HI Guys,I can't duplicate this problem. Maybe you guys can compare notes to see if there are any commonalities.Seems like it might be something other than the terrain, though, Lizardo, if you're still getting it after removing it.-------Justinhttp://www.fsgenesis.netHigh Quality Scenery for FS200x

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That's what I am starting to think too. Dark: do you have Ruud Faber's Europe FALL also?

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Aha: Solution = kill Fs9 CFG file and force it to make a new one.

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Now why would that be, I wonder?Previous post: no, no Faber textures, not my thang.Haven't done the FS9.CFG thing yet, but will do, I guess. In the meantime, deselected FSGenesis mesh ... all loaded up fine. Reselected FSGenesis mesh, restarted FS .... hung again at "Loading terrain 56% (always the same number) with this message that I have never seen before:http://www.paxship.com/justin.jpgDidn't realise I had to get the wife involved!Anyway, started FS again, crashed to desktop at 56%, no message this time. So I'll try your route, I guess. Justin, what might be causing this, d'ya reckon? Pleasure to meet you at MAAM, by the way.Mark "Dark Moment" BeaumontEDIT: Uh oh. Let it rebuild my FS9.CFG file and after gazing admiringly at the Kings once again for a moment or two (only because they actually get PAID by Microsoft, or at least get lots of free marketing) I selected Plymouth once more for the default Cessna .... 25% ... 35% .... 55% .... 59% (wow!) and then CRASH.So that didn't work for me, O reptilian one. Horses for courses, I guess. Justin, hope this isn't happening for everybody; I just don't have time for this right now, I fear, so will go back to another mesh for the moment. Much of my England flying is in the South West so if that doesn't work for me, I'll just have to wait to see whether others have a similar problem and you find a solution.http://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Same here, Mark ! :-)No idea why you might get that message. I know for certain that there isn't anyhting in terrain mesh files that might throw up that message. And nothing, of course, in my installer (since there isn't one, just a zip file.)There really isn't anything being installed, per se, just the extraction of two files to a folder within your FS9 folder. Certainly nothing that would require admin priveliges, no system files being written to, or anything that.Have you installed anything else recently that might be confusing your system?Maybe have a look in System Restore and see if there are any restore points created recently by an installer and if so, roll back to before that and try it again.I'm stumped . . .-------Justinhttp://www.fsgenesis.netHigh Quality Scenery for FS200x

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No, nothing weird installed recently that I know of, and anyway, everything works fine (including installing new sceneries) with your mesh deactivated.I don't use installers, and don't even trust SYSTEM RESTORE since it removed many of my aircraft folder contents at random once.I tried moving your two files about, too .... WORLD/SCENERY, own folder under SCENERY, open in the main SCENERY folder .... same result.So maybe we just wait to see whether others have a similar problem. It's early days, and it doesn't crash my system at all airports.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Odd. Well, try Lizardo's solution and see what happens. So far, you're the only one. Aside from Lizardo's initial report, since fixed, haven't had any other reports and it's been downloaded nearly 300 times since I posted it early last evening. -------Justinhttp://www.fsgenesis.netHigh Quality Scenery for FS200x

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Howdy:Just after the release of my Rockies' files I had a half day of repeated CTDs when trying to load any of my saved flights in FS9 (including the default Meigs Field flight) - sure made for some anxious moments; good thing I have a massage therapists in the house ;-) I let FS rebuild my fs9.cfg but that didn't work (BTW, always make a backup copy before doing this otherwise you'll lose all your custom tweaks in fs9.cfg!).I finally tracked it down to the new popular water reflections and/or bumpmap files. The problems completely disappeared when I disabled them. Do you have those files installed?I have since re-installed the Lyons' water reflections (calm water version) and haven't had a any problems but havn't tried the bump maps yet.I also had a quick look at the UK mesh in TMFViewer (probably something Justin has done already) and there's nothing that would suggest a problem with the mesh files itself.Cheers, Holger

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Ah well, just as well I'm the only one (you did TRY positioning to Plymouth EGHD yourself, did you, Justin?).I've allowed a rebuild of the FS9.CFG file ... no go.I've disabled the new bumpmapping and reverted .. no go.I've replaced Bill Lyon's stuff with default again ... no go.So that's enough fiddling. I fear I'll just have to revert to the Nanucq mesh which is very nice anyway (better than Lago in my own humble view, as said above). So there we are. No complaints, Justin, for sure, as it may just be the usual Dark Moment gremlins, and I NEVER complain about freeware, LOL!Let me know, though, if anybody else but Lizardo finds a problem. Thanks.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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HI mark,Yep. Sure did go to both Plymouth and Exeter, a couple of times back and forth, trying to force the issue. No problems.Do yo have any addon landclass installed? Landclass has been known to cause CTDs that didn't happen in FS2002.-------Justinhttp://www.fsgenesis.netHigh Quality Scenery for FS200x

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Hmmmm ... I do have Raymond Taburet's payware FS2002 LC for England installed. However, it hasn't crashed me before and does not with other (or no) mesh. Might try whipping it out just to see.Holger, tried replicating the SCENERY.CFG files in the two locations. That didn't work either.Mark "Dark Moment" Beaumonthttp://www.swiremariners.com/newlogo.jpg

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Mark, Justin, and all,I had even worse problems than Mark. That is, I got the Plymouth (EGHD) crash and then, subsequently, had my whole FS9 go to pot.... was able to get it to start up at all only about once in ten times, even in New Zealand!Even completely removing the Genesis UK bgls failed to restore functionality.Horror!However, a little quick troubleshooting revealed that, in my case, the culprit was a completely different file that I added in the wee hours last night -- "railroadsu.zip" -- alternative railroad textures that I and 382 others (including perhaps Mr. Beaumont?) have downloaded since yesterday. When I took it off the system, the problem disappeared, when I put it back on, the problem returned, when I re-removed it, FS9 returned to normal operations. Could this have something to do with what seems like an epidemic of crashes in the FS world today?Haven't yet tried putting the FS Genesis UK mesh back in....I am supposed to be "working" tonight. Wang

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