March 11, 201115 yr I've finally decided to take the plunge and upgrade from my GTX260 in an attempt to "further" my FSX experience. I've decided to go with the GTX560 because it suits my budget and seems a logical progression from the 260. Question is, should I go for an Overclocked edition (saving me a very simple but unwarrantied manual OC) or, should I go for a 2GB version with standard clock? I've read that "usually" the extra memory isn't required unless running more than the one monitor or with super high resolutions. Does this hold true for FSX as well or is FSX more dependant on the amount of RAM?
March 11, 201115 yr I,ve made the same decision. I have an XFX 260GTX Black Edition and have just plumped for an MSI o/clocked 560 Twin Frozer. Arriving on Monday so can't tell you more.See my thread about 6 topics down, "2 video cards." So I intend to get a second 560 to run multiple screens but it is difficult to get a definitive answer to what is possible.I think it's a case of experimenting. I'll set up the 560 and then see if I can run the 260 as well. When I get the second 560 I'll try it in SLI and non SLI modes. The NVidia website also suggests that when in SLI Surround mode a third "accessory video card" is possible, whatever that means, so I'll try the 260.The outcome is anyones guess.I'll reply again when I have the 560 running.
March 11, 201115 yr I've finally decided to take the plunge and upgrade from my GTX260 in an attempt to "further" my FSX experience. I've decided to go with the GTX560 because it suits my budget and seems a logical progression from the 260. Question is, should I go for an Overclocked edition (saving me a very simple but unwarrantied manual OC) or, should I go for a 2GB version with standard clock? I've read that "usually" the extra memory isn't required unless running more than the one monitor or with super high resolutions. Does this hold true for FSX as well or is FSX more dependant on the amount of RAM?You can monitor the amount of video memory is use by watching Nvidia Inspector.1 GB is plenty with one monitor. Bert
March 12, 201115 yr I,ve made the same decision. I have an XFX 260GTX Black Edition and have just plumped for an MSI o/clocked 560 Twin Frozer. Arriving on Monday so can't tell you more.See my thread about 6 topics down, "2 video cards." So I intend to get a second 560 to run multiple screens but it is difficult to get a definitive answer to what is possible.I think it's a case of experimenting. I'll set up the 560 and then see if I can run the 260 as well. When I get the second 560 I'll try it in SLI and non SLI modes. The NVidia website also suggests that when in SLI Surround mode a third "accessory video card" is possible, whatever that means, so I'll try the 260.The outcome is anyones guess.I'll reply again when I have the 560 running.Thanks,Would be most interested to hear how the single 260 compares to the single 560 Ti when it arrives
March 15, 201115 yr I was wondering what driver you are using with the 560 as im about to purchase? Have read on another hardware/driver forum that a lot of people are having trouble with the 266 drivers for this card? Thanks in advance, Jeff Blyth MD11 J41 747 NGX . . awaiting 777 !!!
March 15, 201115 yr The 266 drivers are the only non-beta drivers available for the gtx560ti (I don't bother with beta drivers). I got my MSI 560 the week they were released, and I've had zero problems with it using my 1680x1050 monitor. I've got it at a 966Mhz OC which lets me use BP=0 nearly all the time without any problems. The only downside is its cooler dumps heat into your case (all gtx 560 do this), which my gtx 275 didn't, so I had to upgrade (read 'make noisier') my case airflow. 1GB RAM is plenty; I've yet to see FSX use even 50% when using 8xS AA with100% density/autogen. CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
March 15, 201115 yr The 266 drivers are the only non-beta drivers available for the gtx560ti (I don't bother with beta drivers). I got my MSI 560 the week they were released, and I've had zero problems with it using my 1680x1050 monitor. I've got it at a 966Mhz OC which lets me use BP=0 nearly all the time without any problems. The only downside is its cooler dumps heat into your case (all gtx 560 do this), which my gtx 275 didn't, so I had to upgrade (read 'make noisier') my case airflow. 1GB RAM is plenty; I've yet to see FSX use even 50% when using 8xS AA with100% density/autogen.Hey Rod, have you tried 8xSQ? I'm interested in how that 560 likes it in bad weather. Also, how much AF are you running please?
March 15, 201115 yr Hey Rod, have you tried 8xSQ? I'm interested in how that 560 likes it in bad weather. Also, how much AF are you running please?I use 16x AF and I've tried 8xSQ AA; it chokes performance noticably but not drastically. I don't like how 8xSQ effects the virtual cockpit (blurs the instrument faces) so I would not use it anyways for it literally gives me a headache. The gtx560ti IQ/performance ratio for FSX is very good IMO considering its cost. It's better than my gtx 275 was for FSX but not substantially so (though for Rise of Flight it was a huge improvement). I lock fps at 35 and it's usually pegged there unless its a heavy autogen area where it'll hit into the mid-20s. The GPU is rarely at 100% and when it is the artifact side effects of BP=0 make it painfully obvious. The three factors which work together to (occasionally) kill BP=0: Heavy weather+heavy FTX PNW autogen+high 2x water CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
March 15, 201115 yr I use 16x AF and I've tried 8xSQ AA; it chokes performance noticably but not drastically. I don't like how 8xSQ effects the virtual cockpit (blurs the instrument faces) so I would not use it anyways for it literally gives me a headache. The gtx560ti IQ/performance ratio for FSX is very good IMO considering its cost. It's better than my gtx 275 was for FSX but not substantially so (though for Rise of Flight it was a huge improvement). I lock fps at 35 and it's usually pegged there unless its a heavy autogen area where it'll hit into the mid-20s. The GPU is rarely at 100% and when it is the artifact side effects of BP=0 make it painfully obvious. The three (occasional) BP=0 killers I experience: Heavy weather+heavy FTX PNW autogen+high 2x water.Oh, ok. Thanks for the info :smile:I was going to suggest you to try setting AF to application controlled in nVidia inspector instead of 16x. It works great for me coupled with 8xSQ and in the VC of the PMDG MD11 for example, displays look much better to me with the extra FSAA, but if you like 8xS better no need to bother with this. Anyway if you want to give it a try I would appreciate it if you could get back to me and tell me if it helped avoid the chokingHave you tried with a RejectThreshold instead of BP=0? I get the same performance boost and artifacts are almost non existant
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