March 18, 201115 yr Are you recommending that he needs SEVEN fans PLUS the H70? Do you think his PSU is up to that?Yeah lol. Note what Dario said above, AND if that wasn't enough, I believe he (OP) said on the last page that he was upgrading to an 850W PSU. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
March 21, 201115 yr So what you are saying is that you ARE recommending SEVEN fans plus a H70, and that if he upgrades to an 850w PSU, he will not have any problem? Sorry Ethan, but I would have expected that after your little faux pas over the memory, you might apply a little thought and care before making hardware suggestions. Paul Smith.
March 21, 201115 yr So what you are saying is that you ARE recommending SEVEN fans plus a H70, and that if he upgrades to an 850w PSU, he will not have any problem? Sorry Ethan, but I would have expected that after your little faux pas over the memory, you might apply a little thought and care before making hardware suggestions.Errrrm, excuse me but I thought that point was already clarified. All those fans and the H70 combined will draw a whooping... 10W at most. The thing is that the H70 works best with the radiator fans set as intake, so the hot air tends to remain inside the case and adding some fans blowing air outside (at the top for example) helps keeping things cooler. I'm not sure what's your point, there's nothing wrong with that recomendation and looks to me you just feel like arguing over the internet or something
March 21, 201115 yr Perhaps I am being a bit 'sensitive', but the OP was talking about a setup which already had 4 fans and H70 cooling. Our resident 'hardware expert' then suggested three more fans and while he was able to quote airflow, he completly failed to mention whether they should be setup as push or pull or even mention the benefits of running the case at positive or negative air pressure. And I am not convinced that he would have picked up on the negligable power requirements if you hadn't mentioned it. The OP was talking about an i5-2500k OC to no more then 4.4GHz and probably not even that. The H70 will manage his CPU cooling requirments with ease so all that is left is his northbridge and memory. They do not run espeacily hot in SB rigs, even when OC'd, so what was the justification for suggesting extra fans? Finally, given that I had called him out for his mistake before, why did he not take the time to think about his answer. This was his chance to show he had some real expertise and was not just a BS artiste. Paul Smith.
March 21, 201115 yr Finally, given that I had called him out for his mistake before, why did he not take the time to think about his answer. This was his chance to show he had some real expertise and was not just a BS artiste.What? ... Sir, I'm sorry, but this is stupid. I don't even know what you're arguing about.What did I have to think about? I recommended some more fans. And...? I suggested that he add some additional fans so that he can have a nice cool system. So what if he's using a 2500k with an h70. The system is still going to produce heat. Wouldn't several fans circuiting air over the components help to keep the internal case temp down? I don't really know what you're griping at. No, I didn't tell him which orientation to put them in. Why should I? Sometimes, the best way to go about it is to try a few configurations and see what works best. It is not always the same from one build to another. Somehow that means that I'm an idiot because I didn't tell him which orientation to put them in? ... Please. It seems like you are just griping to gripe. Whatever is bothering you, can you please just get over it or send it in a pm. There is really never a reason to publicly argue on the forum. There is just not a place for it. Paul I have sent you a PM. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
March 21, 201115 yr ...Wouldn't several fans circuiting air over the components help to keep the internal case temp down? ...Isn't four fans 'several' enough? How will seven fans, and a H70, be much better? PM sent. Paul Smith.
March 21, 201115 yr Isn't four fans 'several' enough? How will seven fans, and a H70, be much better? PM sent.That is what I would recommend for a high end system. It also gives him room to add or upgrade to hotter components in the future. That's my suggestion. He can take it or leave it. I'm not forcing him to do anything. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
March 21, 201115 yr Also, Paul mentioned positive and negative pressures. I wasn't going to get into this, because there is so much controversy between a positive and negative system. But, since it was brought up, I'll mention a few points. For those who don't know, a positive pressure system is where you have more intake airflow bringing cool air in. A negative pressure system is one where your exhaust airflow exceeds your intake airflow. First, just to clarify, when I said try different configurations with the fans, I didn't mean try random configurations and hope that one works better. I meant that you should try both positive and negative pressure configurations, and see which one you like personally. There are a lot of things to consider. Dust, hot pockets, noise, cooling effectiveness, etc are all examples of common concerns. If you open this up for discussion, you will get an endless debate between positive and negative, so that is why I recommend trying both configurations for yourself and see which one YOU like best. Personally I prefer a positive pressure system with filters on the intakes. I also look for top exhaust as I find this to be quite effective. Anyway, my advise would be to try it out, and see what you prefer. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
March 23, 201115 yr Hi, does anyone know where I can find an external FPS limiter, all the sites I try seem to say the file has been deleted.
March 23, 201115 yr Hi Andrew.Try this link: Click HereThis is compressed into a .rar file, so you'll need a program to unzip it. I use 7zip. It is free and can be found here.Hope this helps you out. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
March 24, 201115 yr Hi Andrew.Try this link: Click HereThis is compressed into a .rar file, so you'll need a program to unzip it. I use 7zip. It is free and can be found here.Hope this helps you out. Oh thanks, finally. Need to help this old machine as much as I can!
March 24, 201115 yr Oh thanks, finally. Need to help this old machine as much as I can!Just make sure you have java installed, and then run the java app. When the app comes up, leave all the settings the same, but browse for fsx.exe which should be in your root fsx folder. Then click on generate batch file. It should then put a batch file in the same directory that you put the FPS limiter in. Just remember to set your frames to unlimited in the sim, and click on the batch file every time you want to start the sim. If you click on the desktop or start menu icon, the limiter won't work. You HAVE to click on the batch file every time. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
March 25, 201115 yr Just make sure you have java installed, and then run the java app. When the app comes up, leave all the settings the same, but browse for fsx.exe which should be in your root fsx folder. Then click on generate batch file. It should then put a batch file in the same directory that you put the FPS limiter in. Just remember to set your frames to unlimited in the sim, and click on the batch file every time you want to start the sim. If you click on the desktop or start menu icon, the limiter won't work. You HAVE to click on the batch file every time.Yeah, works a charm, just moving my fsx to the alternate HDD. Don't know when I will build the machine.
March 25, 201115 yr Yeah, works a charm, just moving my fsx to the alternate HDD. Don't know when I will build the machine.Good! Glad to hear you got it working. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
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