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I took the MD out of the virtual hangar this weekend and flew a flight which resulted in a missed approach and a hold. I wanted to retry the approach, but I kept getting a "no destination" dialogue. Is there a short cut to trick the the CDU into knowing what my destination is when I've flown to the end of the route including the missed approach? I eventually got it to work, but it didn't seem very intuitive.

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Doug Orvis

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From Smart Cockpit,http://www.smartcockpit.com/pdf/plane/boeing/MD-11/diagrams/0006/ And PMDG FMC Chapter 60.15 missed approach section.

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From Smart Cockpit,http://www.smartcock.../diagrams/0006/ And PMDG FMC Chapter 60.15 missed approach section.
Thanks, but that's not really what I'm asking. I'm asking about the FMS/CDU not having a destination after I went missed and how to tell it to reshoot the approach without it screwing up the hold programmed in.

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Doug Orvis

PP-ASEL-IA (USA), Based at KHEF

 

Picture courtesy of Kyle Rodgers

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Without having looked back at the manuals, I'm not 100% on this, but why not program the route from your holding fix to the destination in the SEC FP, and activate it inbound to the fix? Like I said, though, I haven't looked at the manuals and haven't bothered with non-standard ops in the MD-11 lately, so my guidance may be off.

Kyle Rodgers

I am not sure about the actual operation of this FMS and what "screwing up hold" really means but typically, regardless of aircraft type you would have to load a new approach, pick IAF for this approach and leave the holding pattern to fly to this IAF (assuming it is self-navigation and not a controller assisted approach). At least in G1000 avionics it is a fairly straigtforward procedure and I can imagine it should be equally straightforward in MD-11.

Michael J.

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See, that's the issue. I couldn't load a new approach because it kept telling me I had no destination. Eventually I addedthe airport as a waypoint and then entered the approach again, but it strikes me that there should still be a destination if you're in the air. I'll see if I can replicate this when I fly again.

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Doug Orvis

PP-ASEL-IA (USA), Based at KHEF

 

Picture courtesy of Kyle Rodgers

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See, that's the issue. I couldn't load a new approach because it kept telling me I had no destination. Eventually I addedthe airport as a waypoint and then entered the approach again, but it strikes me that there should still be a destination if you're in the air. I'll see if I can replicate this when I fly again.
The MD11 MCDU is quite strange compared to Boeings during a missed approach, it will dump all the data leaving you with nothing at a critical phase. I spent a huge amount of time learning the systems but never spent to much time trying to find out if the loss of data was pilot error. Anyway my solution was to activate the Sec flightplan whilst in the hold and direct to the CF of the arrival runway.

Rob Prest

 

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Thanks, Rob. That's the clarification I was looking for. Very strange, as you, that it would dump your info at a crtical phase of the flight. I thought about doing the secondary flight plan, maybe I'll reload the flight from that point and try that.

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Doug Orvis

PP-ASEL-IA (USA), Based at KHEF

 

Picture courtesy of Kyle Rodgers

What I do is re enter the dep and arr and select an arrival, that's it!

Bryan Richards

 

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