Howdy, I have radar contact for FSX and I am currently using it with Active Sky Evolution Build642 in standard mode and the very latest FSUIPC4.0C or something like that. Well my problem is radar contact setting me up to land with 10knt tailwind gusts to 20 would someone happen to have any solutions for me please? Thanks, JoshP.S. UseASEweather=Yes I looked at this post and looked at my FSUIPC.INI file and the USEASEweather is no where to be found in the latest FSUIPC so does this need to be manually added to correct the problem?

Howdy, I have radar contact for FSX and I am currently using it with Active Sky Evolution Build642 in standard mode and the very latest FSUIPC4.0C or something like that. Well my problem is radar contact setting me up to land with 10knt tailwind gusts to 20 would someone happen to have any solutions for me please? Thanks, JoshP.S. UseASEweather=Yes I looked at this post and looked at my FSUIPC.INI file and the USEASEweather is no where to be found in the latest FSUIPC so does this need to be manually added to correct the problem?

Yes, you need to add UserASEWeather=Yes manually.DJ

Yes, you need to add UserASEWeather=Yes manually.DJ

DJ, Thank You Sir. I will give that a run and see what happens. Does this actually fix the AI traffic which would be ultimate traffic x so you don't have to see a 747 coming in opposite of the runway you are coming into also? Thanks Again, Josh

DJ, Thank You Sir. I will give that a run and see what happens. Does this actually fix the AI traffic which would be ultimate traffic x so you don't have to see a 747 coming in opposite of the runway you are coming into also? Thanks Again, Josh

Not always... but I rarely encounter that problem. Do make sure you refresh AI from ASE when you start up.DJ

Be sure you have UTX (UT2) set up to spawn AI at maximum distance so RC can monitor it in time for assigning departure and arrival runways. This also should give AI better stable responses to weather.The ASE statement in FSUIPC just affects how the current weather is reported to RC using ASE to get the predicted weather, not read from FS itself (in other words bypassing FS and getting it direct from ASE). It does not affect the FS weather nor AI patterns.Depending on the AI class of aircraft and runway properties (like only an ILS on one end) AI as directed by the FS AI engine can accept a tailwind of about seven to ten knots in choosing the preferred runway with the better approach gear. AI always behave in this manner as if conditions are IFR. That's why RC gives first priority to AI behavior over reported weather.

Be sure you have UTX (UT2) set up to spawn AI at maximum distance so RC can monitor it in time for assigning departure and arrival runways. This also should give AI better stable responses to weather.The ASE statement in FSUIPC just affects how the current weather is reported to RC using ASE to get the predicted weather, not read from FS itself (in other words bypassing FS and getting it direct from ASE). It does not affect the FS weather nor AI patterns.Depending on the AI class of aircraft and runway properties (like only an ILS on one end) AI as directed by the FS AI engine can accept a tailwind of about seven to ten knots in choosing the preferred runway with the better approach gear. AI always behave in this manner as if conditions are IFR. That's why RC gives first priority to AI behavior over reported weather.

I have Active Sky Evolution B642 in dwc mode with create additional weather stations unchecked, enhanced route coverage unchecked and prevent cloud redraws unchecked and the very latest fsuipc registered and the UserASEWeather=Yes in the fsuipc.ini under the general tab. The last couple of flights I have done were smaller fields with one ILS opposite of the winds and radar contact did try to vector me into the ILS which would have put 15kt tailwinds with almost 25kt gusts. One thing I have not tried yet is setting the UT2 traffic to distance to spawn ground aircraft to the max 50 which I will try after this post. Would you suggest me checking the add stations or any of the above I do not have checked? Thanks again for you help and suggestions I know this kinda has been a complicated issue and I am just trying to reach out to all the sources and exhaust my options before I give up. Sincerely, Josh

Check the Hi-Fi Systems forum for any release notes pending these service packs.If you can don't use DWC mode with FSX as it forces Global weather mode unless they have a work around. This means that your entire FS world follows the weather at your aircraft location causing possibly significant weather variation as your aircraft approaches destination. Some people suggest letting FSUIPC4 do the weather smoothing and letting ASE run in another mode. I don't know if ASE registers FSUIPC4 for that function or not. Check on the ASE forum.You can also try that starting a flight and then look at the FSUIPC.log in your modules folder to see if it was used. The initial ASE publications prior to service updates mentioned this.Search in this forum for ASE topics.

I have Active Sky Evolution B642 in DWC mode with create additional weather stations unchecked, enhanced route coverage unchecked and prevent cloud redraws unchecked and the very latest FSUIPC registered and the UserASEWeather=Yes in the FSUIPC.ini under the general tab. The last couple of flights I have done were smaller fields with one ILS opposite of the winds and radar contact did try to vector me into the ILS which would have put 15kt tailwinds with almost 25kt gusts. One thing I have not tried yet is setting the UT2 traffic to distance to spawn ground aircraft to the max 50 which I will try after this post. Would you suggest me checking the add stations or any of the above I do not have checked? Thanks again for you help and suggestions I know this kinda has been a complicated issue and I am just trying to reach out to all the sources and exhaust my options before I give up. Sincerely, Josh

Hi Josh,This has been an ongoing problem between ASE, FSUIPC and Radar Contact. Ron explained the problem with DWC mode and the global environment is the environment around your plane. So many of us have tried to resolve this issue. What is happening is that ASE in DWC mode provides the most stable weather during flight. However when Radar Contact call for the destination weather, ASE provides the weather environment at the destination but with conditions at the location of your plane. The alternative is to use the Smooth Cloud mode. Now there is a little more wind shifts, but I use FSUIPC to smooth those outs. However their is a caveat with the Smooth Cloud mode about destination FS winds being slightly more unpredictable. In this mode you will get accurate RC ATIS, and the AI's in general will be on the correct runway. There is still a lot of tweaking going on. All considered, I am going back to using Smooth Cloud mode.Bob

Hi Josh,This has been an ongoing problem between ASE, FSUIPC and Radar Contact. Ron explained the problem with DWC mode and the global environment is the environment around your plane. So many of us have tried to resolve this issue. What is happening is that ASE in DWC mode provides the most stable weather during flight. However when Radar Contact call for the destination weather, ASE provides the weather environment at the destination but with conditions at the location of your plane. The alternative is to use the Smooth Cloud mode. Now there is a little more wind shifts, but I use FSUIPC to smooth those outs. However their is a caveat with the Smooth Cloud mode about destination FS winds being slightly more unpredictable. In this mode you will get accurate RC ATIS, and the AI's in general will be on the correct runway. There is still a lot of tweaking going on. All considered, I am going back to using Smooth Cloud mode.Bob

Thank Your Sir for the info. I have noticed things just went hay wire with this last build 642 for Active Sky Evolution. I will give your way a try and see how that pans out and if I can't get in a comfort zone with that I just may revert back to build 586 with the DWC off and added weather stations not checked cause things seem alot better with the old way finding a happy medium. Thanks Again, JoshP.S. Where you ever on Kadena Airbase Bob?

Hi Josh,This has been an ongoing problem between ASE, FSUIPC and Radar Contact. Ron explained the problem with DWC mode and the global environment is the environment around your plane. So many of us have tried to resolve this issue. What is happening is that ASE in DWC mode provides the most stable weather during flight. However when Radar Contact call for the destination weather, ASE provides the weather environment at the destination but with conditions at the location of your plane. The alternative is to use the Smooth Cloud mode. Now there is a little more wind shifts, but I use FSUIPC to smooth those outs. However their is a caveat with the Smooth Cloud mode about destination FS winds being slightly more unpredictable. In this mode you will get accurate RC ATIS, and the AI's in general will be on the correct runway. There is still a lot of tweaking going on. All considered, I am going back to using Smooth Cloud mode.Bob

Bob,I just read this post and was very interested in your take on this subject as I also use RC4 with ASE (Build 644). I've been using Standard Mode since day 1 and, in general, I've been getting accurate ATIS info from RC4. However lately, for some reason, my usual "50 mile from the field" ATIS reports from RC4 have been off quite a bit from what the METAR is showing for the destination airport, and I can't fathom why as I haven't made any options changes in ASE. I've never used the Smooth Cloud Transitions mode but since your post and a few others I've read, have mentioned that this mode will result in the most accurate RC4 ATIS info, I'm going to try it on my next flight. Are you still flying with this mode, and are you getting good results? Also, other than wind shifts (which fsuipc4 can alleviate) are there any downsides to using this mode?Thanks much for any information.Bob

Bob,I just read this post and was very interested in your take on this subject as I also use RC4 with ASE (Build 644). I've been using Standard Mode since day 1 and, in general, I've been getting accurate ATIS info from RC4. However lately, for some reason, my usual "50 mile from the field" ATIS reports from RC4 have been off quite a bit from what the METAR is showing for the destination airport, and I can't fathom why as I haven't made any options changes in ASE. I've never used the Smooth Cloud mode but since your post and a few others I've read, have mentioned that this mode will result in the most accurate RC4 ATIS info, I'm going to try it on my next flight. Are you still flying with this mode, and are you getting good results? Also, are there any downsides to using this mode?One last question, I'm using FSUIPC4 (registered) with the wx options, wind smoothing etc. 'on". Would it be a plus to disable the FSUIPC wx options when using the ASE Smooth Clouds mode?Thanks much for any information.BobHi Bob,Well I am sure I am going to get "flak" with my response to your questions (LOL) I have worked so long with Pete Dowson (FSUIPC) and the ASE team on how to get the best results. NONE are satisfactory they all have problems. Instead of a long discussion on what is wrong with each of them, I am going to tell you what I do now and why.Today I use ASE build 446 in DWC mode. The reason for this I get the best enroute WX and it works with my LDS 767 the best. I don't use any of the enhance WX stations, and I have unchecked the Force Destination WX option also. I also have FSUIPC registered with WX options set to wind and pressure smoothing ON.I get perfect departure WX with the above setup and terrible destination WX via the RC ATIS call. Yesterday flying into KSFO, RC ATIS was wind 190/15, when I was on final, tower said winds calm, actual was 250/15. ASE is reporting winds via the RC ATIS call close to what is going on at my aircraft location. Its so bad I don't pay any attention to what the RC ATIS report says. I use the US National Weather Service site when planning my flights to get the METAR forecast for my expected landing time. In the example yesterday at KSFO, the METAR forecast was winds 250/15 gusting to 20. On final ASE had the winds 250/15 no gust. AI were landing on the same runway as me.I don't know if anyone knows how to fix this issue. If you read the tool tip for cloud smoothing in ASE it will tell you "may experience wind inconsistence at destination", now go figure. I never use ASE standard mode, since it causes terrible stutters on my rig. For the time being I rely on the METAR forecast at destination and thats it, not what I want but seems to work 90% of the time.Not a good answer Bob, but that just where I am today.Bob

OK thanks for that update.Just after I posted, I decided to make a flight and test out the Smooth Cloud Transitions Mode. And to my pleasant surprise, when I contacted RC4 ATIS at 50 miles out from the field, the info reported was in agreement with the METAR. To be specific, the cloud cover/elevation, temps, wind speed and wind direction from ATIS were in line with the METAR. The flight was in the Carenado Baron from KFRM to KGRI, cruising Alt. 8000'At 50 miles out from KGRI, ATIS reported the wind at the field as 335/14. The METAR listed the wind as 340/14. So accounting for the mag var at KGRI which is 4.8 deg., the wind direction reported by ATIS was essentially right on the money. ATC gave me RWY 35 to land.ATIS reported the sky condition as OVC@3400AGL and this agreed exactly with the METAR. The enroute wx, when I cross checked with the METARS, seemed to be OK too.At the time I received the ATIS info, I checked to see if it was simply reporting the wind direction at my current location, and it wasn't.So just based on this initial flight, it seems that the results I got with Smooth Cloud Transitions mode was very good.I have wind smoothing on in FSUIPC and Force Dest. Zone disabled in ASE.Bob