I have updated the Santiago, Chile airport (SCEL) with a newer version that include the new parallel runway. The new scenery and afcad are recognized properly by FS2004. but I updated the database of FlightSim Commander and It still displays the old default AFCAD.I opened Lee Swordy AFCAD program, and when I search by the ICAO name (SCEL) it only finds the default scenery. When If I go go the option Open airport from a specific location, it will find the MOD Afcad and it will open it correctly. So does somebody knows what is happening.I have placed the afcad both with the SCEL scenery files and at the K:/FS9/Addon Scenery/Scenery location and it does not show up automatically on AFCAD or Flightsim Commander.

Did you start FS and see it reindex scenery and then shut it down? It is also best only to have one add-on afcad type besides the default layer. Make sure that if you replaced an AFCAD in an add-on scenery folder, in this case your SCEL folder, that you renamed the extension of the old afcad in there if you saved it under a new name. Then insure that your SCEL scenery has high priority in the scenery library.AFCAD searchers the folders specified in scenery.cfg in order of their priority (lowest number 1 at the top of the scenery lib listing has the highest priority.). AFCAD will not find added scenery files until FS has reindexed the scenery with a restart.In addition, see if you have any afcad type files placed by traffic type applications that redo parking. If there is a conflict, the afcad within your SCEL add-on scenery folder should prevail. In AFCAD221 as you open each layer, do File\Properties and it will show you tthe path of each layer. If a layer doesn't show runways, etc, that is a special layer and does not count toward a conlicting layer.afd file types (commonly called afcads) by convention have in the file name AF2_, AFX_ or ADE_.

You should not have multiple non-default AFCAD files. While FS9 does have a priority system which should resolve multiple AFCAD files, it's likely to confuse you when looking at them with the AFCAD program. Watch carefully when you SAVE an AFCAD file in the program. It will not necessarily put it back in the same location that you opened the file from.Ronzie is right about the need to start FS9 and allow it to re-index the scenery files. Until you do that, the AFCAD files are not installed and may not be recognized by other programs.

Thanks for your reply's guys. I installed this new SCEL scenery months ago. I deleted the previous one including its AFCAD before installing the new one. And it is recognized perfect in FS2004, all parking spots are correct, the AI aircraft taxies correctly and the nav aids work perfectly for both runways.The two programs that do not recognize the new runways are Radar Contact 4.3 and Flightsim Commander 9.0The approach controller for Radar Contact 4.3 still gives me instructions to land on RWY 17 instead of 17L or 17R. I have rebuild the Scenery DB whithin Radar Contact and it still does not recognized the new runway.FS Commander 9.0 displays the default afcad, so I only see one runway in their rolling map.I have also rebuild the Scenery database in FSC several times, and still does not show the new runway, it only displays the default afcad.I don't understand the re index commentary, I thought that FS does it automatically after it gets restarted following a scenery addition. Is there anything manual that I have to do?Another clue of what is happening is the fact that if I open any airport using Lee Swordy's Afcad program, I will see the default afcad and the modified afcad in the case of add on airports which I have added to FS2004.In the case of SCEL I only see the default afcad. Now in the same program you have the option to open an airport by the location of the Afcad file. In that case SCEL add on afcad opens correctly.Ai aircraft land and take off in both 17L and 17R runways. So it looks like the issue is not whithin FS, but how the other two programs locate the afcads.

Thanks for your reply's guys. I installed this new SCEL scenery months ago. I deleted the previous one including its AFCAD before installing the new one. And it is recognized perfect in FS2004, all parking spots are correct, the AI aircraft taxies correctly and the nav aids work perfectly for both runways.The two programs that do not recognize the new runways are Radar Contact 4.3 and Flightsim Commander 9.0The approach controller for Radar Contact 4.3 still gives me instructions to land on RWY 17 instead of 17L or 17R. I have rebuild the Scenery DB whithin Radar Contact and it still does not recognized the new runway.FS Commander 9.0 displays the default afcad, so I only see one runway in their rolling map.I have also rebuild the Scenery database in FSC several times, and still does not show the new runway, it only displays the default afcad.I don't understand the re index commentary, I thought that FS does it automatically after it gets restarted following a scenery addition. Is there anything manual that I have to do?Another clue of what is happening is the fact that if I open any airport using Lee Swordy's Afcad program, I will see the default afcad and the modified afcad in the case of add on airports which I have added to FS2004.In the case of SCEL I only see the default afcad. Now in the same program you have the option to open an airport by the location of the Afcad file. In that case SCEL add on afcad opens correctly.Ai aircraft land and take off in both 17L and 17R runways. So it looks like the issue is not whithin FS, but how the other two programs locate the afcads.

I would double check the "location" of the SCEL afcad which you say you can open uisng the "by location" option.It sounds as if it is not in an "active" scenery subfolder. If that is the case, then the normal afacd search would not find it. Try putting it in an active scenery subfolder and see if that works.Note: If there is a scenery entry for SCEL (which has been added via the Scenery Library dialogue,, put it in the scenery subfolder of that entryKeep us posted.

Regarding RC please see this topic here on the RC forum:http://forum.avsim.net/topic/98375-current-release-of-fsuipc-and-makerwys-download-location/It is essential that your version of makerwys be current. It will probably be an old version if you are using one from an installation pack especially the CD. Makerwys version 4.41 and later fix scenery priority issues that occurred with certain add-ons. Today's version is Make Runways utility version 4.46 (for Radar Contact primarily) MakeRunways 4.46 from:http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/While there update FSUIPC to FSUIPC 3.997c. Follow the instructions on this page regarding first the full installation (does not necessarily mean paid version) then this interim update.http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/Regarding what makerwys is doing go into your FS folder. Open with wordpad (not notepad) MakeRwys ReadMe.txt. This is a log file of how makerwys has treated your installed scenery and can function as a diagnostic for other programs that extract scenery data.Except for the default SCEL from an APxxxx.bgl file, there should be two sections for each SCEL related scenery as a paired set. The first regards deletions and the second the added scenery elements. Search this file for SCEL. The last sections should be a paired set as explained of a deletion section followed by the additions section. The last paired set or single section in this log regarding SCEL has priority.Each section shows the path to the file it processes.Some RC user common mistakes are entering the incorrect path to FS (required each time you run the scenery rebuild mine is h:\program files\microsoft games\flight simulator 9, or running makerwys directly in your FS folder which is only done for networked situations where RC is not on your FS computer. Either way you must run the scenery rebuild from within RC.Each section shows has the path to the afd (afcad type) file it processed so you can tell in this case which one(s) had priority. Makerwys uses the scenery.cfg file managed by your library settings in FS.So, in summary, looking at the huge MakeRwys ReadMe.txt log file will show you if there is a problem with the scenery afcad or scenery folder of SCEL and if the correct scenery file took priority.I don't have FSC so can't help with that. There is one application, I do not recall, that requires scenery to be installed in the FS add-on scenery folder and doesn't recognize the paths from scenery.cfg.Also if you are a VISTA or Win 7 user, be sure your shortcut to RC is setup with the advanced property to run the program at admin level. This is different than logging in as an admin. I also suggest you check your registry FS9 path with this free flight1 utility which will need to run with admin privileges as well:http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=libraryFSX/FS9 Registry Repair Tool (36KB)If you had or have FSX installed this should be checked for each version you have installed. If you are a dual FS version user and have a separate RC folder as required for each version of FS, be sure on a scenery rebuild you put the right FS path in for the RC version you started.RC specific questions can be addressed on the AVSIM RC forum.BTW, if any user wishes to use makerwys.exe's log as a diagnostic it does not require FSUIPC and is freeware.

I would double check the "location" of the SCEL afcad which you say you can open uisng the "by location" option.It sounds as if it is not in an "active" scenery subfolder. If that is the case, then the normal afacd search would not find it. Try putting it in an active scenery subfolder and see if that works.Note: If there is a scenery entry for SCEL (which has been added via the Scenery Library dialogue,, put it in the scenery subfolder of that entryKeep us posted.

Hello David, thanks for your reply. I have tried both leaving in the Scenery folder of the SCEL scenery, which is active or else I would not see it in FS, and I also tried putting it into the FS9/Addon Scenery/Scenery folder which is also active. neither works.ThanksJuan

Regarding RC please see this topic here on the RC forum:http://forum.avsim.net/topic/98375-current-release-of-fsuipc-and-makerwys-download-location/It is essential that your version of makerwys be current. It will probably be an old version if you are using one from an installation pack especially the CD. Makerwys version 4.41 and later fix scenery priority issues that occurred with certain add-ons. Today's version is Make Runways utility version 4.46 (for Radar Contact primarily) MakeRunways 4.46 from:http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/While there update FSUIPC to FSUIPC 3.997c. Follow the instructions on this page regarding first the full installation (does not necessarily mean paid version) then this interim update.http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66139-updated-modules/Regarding what makerwys is doing go into your FS folder. Open with wordpad (not notepad) MakeRwys ReadMe.txt. This is a log file of how makerwys has treated your installed scenery and can function as a diagnostic for other programs that extract scenery data.Except for the default SCEL from an APxxxx.bgl file, there should be two sections for each SCEL related scenery as a paired set. The first regards deletions and the second the added scenery elements. Search this file for SCEL. The last sections should be a paired set as explained of a deletion section followed by the additions section. The last paired set or single section in this log regarding SCEL has priority.Each section shows the path to the file it processes.Some RC user common mistakes are entering the incorrect path to FS (required each time you run the scenery rebuild mine is h:\program files\microsoft games\flight simulator 9, or running makerwys directly in your FS folder which is only done for networked situations where RC is not on your FS computer. Either way you must run the scenery rebuild from within RC.Each section shows has the path to the afd (afcad type) file it processed so you can tell in this case which one(s) had priority. Makerwys uses the scenery.cfg file managed by your library settings in FS.So, in summary, looking at the huge MakeRwys ReadMe.txt log file will show you if there is a problem with the scenery afcad or scenery folder of SCEL and if the correct scenery file took priority.I don't have FSC so can't help with that. There is one application, I do not recall, that requires scenery to be installed in the FS add-on scenery folder and doesn't recognize the paths from scenery.cfg.Also if you are a VISTA or Win 7 user, be sure your shortcut to RC is setup with the advanced property to run the program at admin level. This is different than logging in as an admin. I also suggest you check your registry FS9 path with this free flight1 utility which will need to run with admin privileges as well:http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=libraryFSX/FS9 Registry Repair Tool (36KB)If you had or have FSX installed this should be checked for each version you have installed. If you are a dual FS version user and have a separate RC folder as required for each version of FS, be sure on a scenery rebuild you put the right FS path in for the RC version you started.RC specific questions can be addressed on the AVSIM RC forum.BTW, if any user wishes to use makerwys.exe's log as a diagnostic it does not require FSUIPC and is freeware.

Hi Ron, Thanks for your reply. I have the most current version of FSUIPC 3.99 but I have version 4.45 of Makerwys, I did not know that 4.46 existed. I will update it and also the latest FSUIPC. I will look into the MakeRwys ReadMe.txt.I have the correct path, is really simple I have a dedicated Velociraptor drive used solely by FS9, the path is really simple : K:\FS9. I have Winodws 7 pro 64 bit and I run the RC program as administrator.Since I have your attention, maybe you can also help me understand another problem that I am having with RC4.3. It is related to the AI Airline Callsign names that the ATC controller use.Most of them are referred correctly by their name or callsign like Airfrance, or Speedbird for BA.But some of the are called Lima, or Sierra, or Delta referring to the first letter of the airline name and then the flight number. Where does RC gets the data? I have Lan Argentina, Lan Ecuador, Lan Airlines, Lan Cargo. Only Lan Ecuador works the other are Lima. Other cases are Intersky, Clickjet, Oceanair Brasil, etc. is there a place where I can download this missing callsigns?Lots of good information, thanks again RonRegardsJuan

There are two points to your callsign query:RC gets the airline callsign for AI as returned by FSUIPC from this line in each flightsim[] section of aircraft.cfg such as this one:atc_airline=AIR BERLIN. FS adds the flight number via the AI flightplans compiled in the traffic.bgl type files. If an airline is not returned (that is not set in the aircraft.cfg) the tail number is.If it is not in RC's scripts and wav recordings I actually forgot what is returned for AI. It may be pronounced via phonetic spelling as you state the first letter of the airline name with the appended flight number. If a tail number is returned the letters are phonetically pronounced as are the numerics. Best to check in and ask on the RC forum here on AVSIM.If you wish to see the AI information RC gets you can run Pete Dowson's Traffic Look in a separate window. It is available from his support site on this page:http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/It is handy for viewing AI action such as phase of flight or parking and assigned runways for take-off and arrival. It will work with FSUIPC that you have already installed.The team member in charge of callsigns is Subs and he checks out the support forum.I'm just rusty on that part.Regarding the afcad, was it just an afd (afcad type file) or a whole scenery set. Please provide a link and I can check it out if it is not showing in the makerwys log file.

There are two points to your callsign query:RC gets the airline callsign for AI as returned by FSUIPC from this line in each flightsim[] section of aircraft.cfg such as this one:atc_airline=AIR BERLIN. FS adds the flight number via the AI flightplans compiled in the traffic.bgl type files. If an airline is not returned (that is not set in the aircraft.cfg) the tail number is.If it is not in RC's scripts and wav recordings I actually forgot what is returned for AI. It may be pronounced via phonetic spelling as you state the first letter of the airline name with the appended flight number. If a tail number is returned the letters are phonetically pronounced as are the numerics. Best to check in and ask on the RC forum here on AVSIM.If you wish to see the AI information RC gets you can run Pete Dowson's Traffic Look in a separate window. It is available from his support site on this page:http://forum.simflight.com/topic/66136-useful-additional-programs/It is handy for viewing AI action such as phase of flight or parking and assigned runways for take-off and arrival. It will work with FSUIPC that you have already installed.The team member in charge of callsigns is Subs and he checks out the support forum.I'm just rusty on that part.Regarding the afcad, was it just an afd (afcad type file) or a whole scenery set. Please provide a link and I can check it out if it is not showing in the makerwys log file.

Hi Ron, thanks for ypur reply, I have installed the new Makerwys, I have rebuild the databases both in RC and Flightsim Commander, I still don't get the second runway. I have run the rwys.txt file and the scenery that shows is the defult located in the SAME World scenery folder.However the scenery opens correctly in FS9 and both rwwys are operating.Juan

Is K: a networked drive? Is it open for access by all of these utilities? First provide the link to the scenery SCEL (if freeware) or afcad file and I'll download and check it out. Alternately tell me what library it is in and the file name. PM me and I'll give you an e-mail address to send a copy of your scenery.cfg to.So you never saw an entry in runways.txt for a second SCEL section pair for your add-on as I understand it. Three utilities have failed to recognize it per your description.

Hi Ron, thanks for ypur reply, I have installed the new Makerwys, I have rebuild the databases both in RC and Flightsim Commander, I still don't get the second runway. I have run the rwys.txt file and the scenery that shows is the defult located in the SAME World scenery folder.However the scenery opens correctly in FS9 and both rwwys are operating.Juan