How do you get a good GPS landing the with out over shooting the runway ?

There is no such thing as "GPS landing". And if you happen to mean "GPS approach" it has nothing to do with overshooting/undershooting the runway. Overshooting usually happens when your aircraft's energy is too high - a testimony to poor flying technique.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg

so you cannot land a plane with GPS like you can with ILS landingif you have very bad fog at the airport.

>so you cannot land a plane with GPS like you can with ILS>landing>if you have very bad fog at the airport.You asked about overshooting the runway. I answered it has nothing to do with GPS or whatever other approach. I said before and I will say again - there is no "GPS landing", and there is no "ILS landing" but there is "GPS approach" and there is an "ILS approach". I recommend you grab some aviation dictionary and tutorial and learn what some terms mean. I sense you are a young kid or someone with little aviation background - try to develop more precises language or things will get impossible to understand. "Landing" and "approach" are two very different phases of flight. If you formulate your question a bit clearer you will be better understood and chances of getting help increase dramatically.Cheers !Michael J.

Wow Michael J, was that reply really necessary? Its posts like you just made that really turn people off to this hobby. Perhaps you are right that this is a young kid that dosnt know the fine details and dosnt have the "aviation background" that you apparantly have. Dont forget where you are. You are in a forum for a $50 game (deny it all you want but thats what it is). MOST people that own MSFS have little or NO aviation experience. Perhaps thats why he is posting his question: To LEARN somthing. I sense you are an old guy who takes himself and his $50 game WAY too seriously. Cheers!Brew

Agree with you on everything except the "old".I don't believe he is an OLD guy. We old guys have algebra far behind us. If we were interested in math and old we would be far beyond algebra as indicated in his profile. I bet it is a young man.Anything less then 50 is a youngster to me. ;-)He needs to be a little more tolerant. That would have been easy here, all he had to do was be quite. He wasn't insulted, but he did insult a new user of this $50 pretend game.Regards,BobS

>Perhaps thats why he is posting his question: To>LEARN somthing. >Agreed. But unless I understand his question I can't answer it. I don't think I was rude in my answer - just straight to the point. Some people are just super sensitive and require plenty of sugar-coating. I admit I don't sugar-coat. I treat everyone as adults - not primadonnas. I write as if I were writing to myself.Michael J.

After some deliberation this is what may be happening to you (my guess only) ...You make GPS approach and then you break out of the clouds, say you are about 400 ft above runway at this point. But you find yourself too close to the runway threshold for a normal landing (otherwise you overshoot). Then you do so called "circle to land" which means that you circle the airport (ALWAYS in visual conditions!) until you loose enough altitude to land normally (on whatever runway suits you best).Circle-to-land has seperate minimum altitude specified on approach plates for this airport.Michael J.

Michael,I am not especially sensitive nor young. But the tone of your answer did surprise me.Roger

The GPS cannot fly the approach for you, it works in the horizontal plane only - it can change course and bring you back on course, but it cannot perform vertical (glideslope or altitiude change) manouevres.Have a good go at some of the tutorials and learn where to switch from GPS navigation to VOR/ILS for landing. Even then, FS2004 cannot operform the landing for you, you must do it yourself. FS can fly you down the glideslope most of the way, if your aircraft is set up right, speed is OK, weight isn't too great, but eventually you have to switch off the a/p and land the plane manually. There are several steps involved, so read the manuals, try the tutorials then come back with any specific questions.Allcott

SkykingAs has already been said you cannot do a GPS or an ILS landing. The GPS and the ILS are only aids - they are there to help you get ready for landing but not to do absolutely everything for you :-) Landing an a/c is something you have to learn to do yourself and only comes with a great deal of practice.If you have not done so already then I suggest that you have a look at the help files in FS2004 and go through the instructor lessons. You will learn a lot that way.Good luck.David

Thanks for the inputs, yes Iam a kid but, I have been hit harder playing football! so bring it on! so thanks agian for the input Men.

http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/index.htmI don't think it covers GPS, but it's a good place to start if you want to learn.

A GPS that has WAAS can provide vertical navigation, but the FS2004 GPS doesn't have this feature.

Don't forget that aviation itself has some very inconsistent words. You say we have an ILS approach, but no ILS landing. So why is it called an "Instrument Landing System". Also, why do we call the speedometer an "airspeed" gauge, while it doesn't measure air speed but dynamic pressure? And don't forget the cabine altitude that should really be cabine pressure.