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Alarm on Takeoff

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The doors are also linked to the TO config horn and occasionally when you advance the thrust levers, the auto-locking on the overwing exits take a few seconds to engage and you may get the horn for a few seconds as well. Has happened to me about 3 times. This is a real-life quirk on the NG. I just wait a moment for it to clear before selecting TOGA.

You'll get an amber master caution if a door is not locked, but not a takeoff config warning. At least, not according to the FCOM. Takeoff config warning is triggered by:

 

•trailing edge flaps are not in the flaps 1 through 25 takeoff range, or

•trailing edge flaps are in a skew or asymmetry condition, or have uncommanded motion, or

•leading edge devices are not configured for takeoff or have uncommanded motion, or

•speed brake lever is not in the DOWN position, or

•spoiler control valve is open providing pressurized hydraulic fluid to the ground spoiler interlock valve, or

•parking brake is set, or

•stabilizer trim not set in the takeoff range.

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Hi, this is weird though... in the "737 NG checklist/flow procedure for pmdg 737NGX for FSX" it says that you're supposed to arm the spoiler... but I also get the alarm if I arm them... it's on page 9..

 

While I'm at it: how come the aircraft always feels like it is braking whenever I switch the autobrakes to RTO prior to take-off? I can feel an enormous difference while taxiing if I switch to OFF...

Lyonel Aguilar

Hi, this is weird though... in the "737 NG checklist/flow procedure for pmdg 737NGX for FSX" it says that you're supposed to arm the spoiler... but I also get the alarm if I arm them... it's on page 9..

 

While I'm at it: how come the aircraft always feels like it is braking whenever I switch the autobrakes to RTO prior to take-off? I can feel an enormous difference while taxiing if I switch to OFF...

No on Boeing's you do not arm speedbrakes/spoilers for takeoff, like you do on Airbus. You do arm them for landing.

 

Tom Cain

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Hi, this is weird though... in the "737 NG checklist/flow procedure for pmdg 737NGX for FSX" it says that you're supposed to arm the spoiler... but I also get the alarm if I arm them... it's on page 9..

 

While I'm at it: how come the aircraft always feels like it is braking whenever I switch the autobrakes to RTO prior to take-off? I can feel an enormous difference while taxiing if I switch to OFF...

 

Whoever told you this is wrong.

 

As far as the brake thing goes, I'm assuming you have hardware brake pedals. Make sure they're calibrated properly or they'll drag.

Kyle Rodgers

You would get the same alarm but not until much later, when the cabin altitude exceeded 10,000 feet.

 

Correct, and nowadays many 737 are equipped with a cabin altitude warning light (not the NGX, though).

IIRC the Helios crew also got the horn but didn't enquire further. Even the best airplane can't compensate for the worst crew...

Whoever told you this is wrong.

 

As far as the brake thing goes, I'm assuming you have hardware brake pedals. Make sure they're calibrated properly or they'll drag.

Nobody told me anything, it's on the file that I quoted in the beginning of my post. Thats why I thought it was weird. The file came with the NGX :)

 

Yes I do use hardware pedals, I'll try calibrating them. Thanks for the tip :)!!

Lyonel Aguilar

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Nobody told me anything, it's on the file that I quoted in the beginning of my post. Thats why I thought it was weird. The file came with the NGX :)

 

Yes I do use hardware pedals, I'll try calibrating them. Thanks for the tip :)!!

 

I don't believe the "737 NG checklist/flow procedure for pmdg 737NGX for FSX" came from us.

Kyle Rodgers

I don't believe the "737 NG checklist/flow procedure for pmdg 737NGX for FSX" came from us.

Hmm.. yeah might have put it in the same folder where I have the other files that came with it, now that I think of it.. sorry, my bad!

Lyonel Aguilar

Hmm.. yeah might have put it in the same folder where I have the other files that came with it, now that I think of it.. sorry, my bad!

The PMDG NGX checklists are in the QRH, Procedures are in the FCOM1 PDF's

 

Tom Cain

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The PMDG NGX checklists are in the QRH, Procedures are in the FCOM1 PDF's

 

Tom Cain

Yeah I've seen those too. I made a misstake which resulted in me getting confused, thinking the list I mentioned was a simplified one. Terribly sorry everyone. Now I know :-)

Whoever told you this is wrong.

 

As far as the brake thing goes, I'm assuming you have hardware brake pedals. Make sure they're calibrated properly or they'll drag.

Tried calibrating, still have the same problem. If I don't turn the autobrake to the OFF position the plane drags. Sometimes it even drags when I don't have it in RTO, and I can only solve this by switching to autobrakes position 1 and then turn it off again. Really strange :(

Lyonel Aguilar

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Tried calibrating, still have the same problem. If I don't turn the autobrake to the OFF position the plane drags. Sometimes it even drags when I don't have it in RTO, and I can only solve this by switching to autobrakes position 1 and then turn it off again. Really strange

 

Using FSUIPC?

Kyle Rodgers

Using FSUIPC?

 

Yes, I am! Im using FSUIPC so I can use VAFS5. I also have AISmooth. My version of the simulator is the Steam Edition (thought I might as well mention all the software I'm using).

Lyonel Aguilar

Yes, I am! Im using FSUIPC so I can use VAFS5. I also have AISmooth. My version of the simulator is the Steam Edition (thought I might as well mention all the software I'm using).

Could it be that you were arming speedbrakes for takoff? The systems, may think you are in landing mode and engage auto braking? Try it without arming the speedbrakes.

 

Tom Cain

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Yes, I am! Im using FSUIPC so I can use VAFS5. I also have AISmooth. My version of the simulator is the Steam Edition (thought I might as well mention all the software I'm using).

 

Go into your Axis Calibration on FSUIPC and calibrate it there. The brake axis needs to be reversed with most hardware, but I believe FSX actually places the null zone on the same size, regardless of the reversed axis (i.e. it's at the "bottom," or where the brakes rest, of the axis normally, but when you click 'reverse' it places it at the "top," or fully depressed). I'd have to doublecheck when I get home, but I think I left the axis as "normal" in FSX, reversed it in FSUIPC, and set a null zone in the proper spot (the "bottom" of the axis) that way.

Kyle Rodgers

Could it be that you were arming speedbrakes for takoff? The systems, may think you are in landing mode and engage auto braking? Try it without arming the speedbrakes.

 

Tom Cain

 

No, I haven't armed speedbrake for takeoff =/

Go into your Axis Calibration on FSUIPC and calibrate it there. The brake axis needs to be reversed with most hardware, but I believe FSX actually places the null zone on the same size, regardless of the reversed axis (i.e. it's at the "bottom," or where the brakes rest, of the axis normally, but when you click 'reverse' it places it at the "top," or fully depressed). I'd have to doublecheck when I get home, but I think I left the axis as "normal" in FSX, reversed it in FSUIPC, and set a null zone in the proper spot (the "bottom" of the axis) that way.

 

Will try it when I get home tomorrow and get back to you! But if its the hardware calibration: shouldnt the plane brake regardless of how I move the autobrake switch? Cause the weird thing is that if I switch to RTO it starts braking and then lets go when I put it off.. and when it brakes in the OFF position it goes away as soon as I switch to 1 and then OFF again..

Lyonel Aguilar

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