Hi Everyone,I would like some opinions on the advantages of yokes v. joysticks. I am using a CH wireless joystick. It works OK, but due to some problems relating to the wireless feature, I need to replace it. I played around with a CH force feedback stick and found it wanting. I am now considering whether to shift entirely to a yoke.The vast majority of my use is for FS9, flying jetliners. I also have CFS3, but do not play it that much.I would also appreciate any product recommendations.Thanks for your opinions.

I have the gameport version of CHProducts yoke and rudder pedals. These are a definite leap of immersion over using a joystick, especially flying what you like to fly. I actually have both the yoke and joystick attached so that I can easily switch between them, depending on the aircraft or game. CHProducts are relatively inexpensive but constructed well. I've had no problems with them for almost three years now. If you want to spend more money, there are other yokes out there that I am sure are great. Be sure to get rudder pedals for the whole experience.Randall

I've had the CH yoke (gameport) for many years and now upgraded to a USB version. It never gave me any problems, except that you have to clean it after some time so it doesn't get "sticky".Go for it and don't forget pedals! I have them both (gameport) if you want: [email protected]

Thank you for your input. Looks like it is time to move up to the yoke.Craig

Depends on what you fly obviously.You don't want to fly an F16 with a yoke. Also many new sports planes come with sticks nowadays as well as the Airbus. There's really no reason why a plane should have a wheel, a stick seems more natural. Of course if the planes you fly in FS have yokes in real life, it will be more realistic with a yoke.

Get a Microsoft FF2 joystick and buy FS Force from Russell Dirks. You WON'T BE SORRY! Stan

Hi Craig,I have the CH products Yoke and Pedals, as well as the Logitech Wigman Extreme 3D Joystick.None are FF, but I really enjoy the Yoke and pedals. I use the Joystick to fly (or crash mostly) helicopters, but the Yoke and pedals work great.Ch is also developing a Throttle Quadrant, which is quite impressive thus far. (except their price point).Yoke gives you much better aileron, and elevator control, IMHO, than the Joystick.But if you get a Yoke, you may also want to consider pedals too. Combined I find them pretty good for flying.Regards,Joehttp://aboutpolitics.net/images/bannerav.gif.About Politics.net - FORUMShttp://pub162.ezboard.com/baboutpolitics.Contribute to the Richard Harvey Scholarship Fund.http://www.avsim.com/pages/scholarship.shtml

>Depends on what you fly obviously.>>You don't want to fly an F16 with a yoke. Also many new sports>planes come with sticks nowadays as well as the Airbus.>There's really no reason why a plane should have a wheel, a>stick seems more natural. Of course if the planes you fly in>FS have yokes in real life, it will be more realistic with a>yoke.Good thing I use Kirk Olsson's F-16 a lot!!! L.Adamson --- Saitek X45 joystick & left hand throttle combo

psst...Hey Larry, over here. Merry Christmas, and I hope you had a Good new Years Too.....we now return to your regularly scheduled thread...Regards,Joe

>Yoke gives you much better aileron, and elevator control,>IMHO, than the Joystick.>I guess that really is "opinion"... :)I myself, much prefer joysticks over yokes. Real planes or simulated ones. As to real (small GA size) aircraft, I again prefer an aluminum tube connecting the stick to the ailerons & elevator versus chains to connect a yoke. It's a solid feel with no slop. L.Adamson

>psst...>>Hey Larry, over here. Merry Christmas, and I hope you had a>Good new Years Too..>>...we now return to your regularly scheduled thread...>>Regards,And the same to you!!! :) Even if I prefer joysticks!!! :)L.Adamson

Yes, it is MHO, but I do try and fly planes that have a stick with the joystick.IE: F16, I also use the stick.I guess it is another Airbus Boeing issue. Buy both, and fly what is in each.With USB, it is quite easy to change them out.Regards,Joe

"Yoke gives you much better aileron, and elevator control, IMHO, than the Joystick."I can't agree with this at all. Simply not true.Like Larry, I prefer push-pull tubes over "chains" (LOL never heard of cables being described that way, but seems appropriate to me).I sim with a joystick config because that's what is most comfortable and familiar to me. Having logged more than a few hours in gliders and sailplanes I've yet to meet one with a yoke.Adding rudder pedals to a joystick config is very important IMHO. They add greatly to the experience.

>>Like Larry, I prefer push-pull tubes over "chains" (LOL never>heard of cables being described that way, but seems>appropriate to me).>For some reason, the "push-pull" wouldn't come to my mind for anything!! As to the "chain", it's an actual chain on sprockets to transfer aileron motion to either push/pull tubes or cables looping around a drum. slop,slop,slop!! :)edit again (third time) --- yes, rudder pedals are "all the difference"!!!! In addition to this CPU with stick & pedals, I use a lap top with joystick & only twist grip. Ones like flying an airplane, and the other one (lap top) is a "scenery viewer" as described by some....L.Adamson

My RV6A's push/pull tube arrangement for both aileron & elevator. Bearings at most joints. And a couple of bushings...