Hey all, Thanks for the help you've provided me with thus far. I have come from DCS A10 which is another highly complex flight simulator, however it only has a 760 page manual. My problem is, I'm not sure how to learn this jet. The manuals (other than tutorial one) seem to assume you've got some level of training already. Is there anything (other than the AOA training which isn't released yet ) Which can teach me things like... How to start the jet (including diagrams and an explanation of why youre doing things) or does that simply not exist? As it is, the manuals are absolutely great but there seems to be a "midway" point which is the point between knowing the basics of flight sims and diving into the deep stuff which the manual does not cater for. Is it simply that this is too early in the birds life? Thanks :)

Here is my approach to learning this and other aircraft: 1. Open the FCOM2 and read one system;2. Read all of the normal and supplemental procedures relating to that particular system in the FCOM1;3. Repeat until all systems complete;4. Read the Flight Crew Training Manual. The key, don't just try to memorize the normal procedures right off the bat. Until you understand the systems, it is nearly impossible to commit all of that stuff to memory. Once you have a good basis in the aircraft systems, you can start learning the flows. Things will come rather quickly. Edit: In the airlines, ratings courses always start with a systems course. You don't start bothering with procedures until that's over with. That's why the procedure guides seem to assume a certain level of knowledge, as you pointed out. They assume that you understand the systems. Trevor

I am definately looking forward to the AOA video training!

Hi (conure)...please sign your full name.There´s also a small video (17 min) starting up from "Cold and Dark" to taxi, that couldbe helpful for you.

(See it in fullscren + 720P HD)Other than that, the Tutorial is the best way to go, after Trevors suggestion above./ Leffe

Hey there, That video is excellent, thank you :) I always find it best to learn to do a full startup of a jet first as it lets you learn some system depencies! I have tried to add my name to signature, hopefully it's working now. What's the reason for it by the way?

Oh sorry, I also only have FCOM (presumably 1) how do I get 2?

Oh sorry, I also only have FCOM (presumably 1) how do I get 2?

All manuals come with the NGX. Is FCOM2 not in the manuals folder? Trevor

Cold and Dark start = Electrical Power Up Procedure on pg 209 of the FCOM1 followed by the Amplified Normal Procedures on page 77.

Ah found it, it was in the file yeah, I was looking at my start bar! Cheers :) omg.....I have no idea where to start! HUGE!

Hey there, That video is excellent, thank you :) I always find it best to learn to do a full startup of a jet first as it lets you learn some system depencies! I have tried to add my name to signature, hopefully it's working now. What's the reason for it by the way?

Luke, it´s according to forum rules.......see here http://forum.avsim.net/topic/245586-you-must-sign-your-full-real-name-to-posts-to-use-this-forum-posts-without-names-will-be-deleted/Btw, you can use an Alias in you member profile, but they also want your real name in your sign as you did already./ Leffe

Hey, everyone has their own method of leaning a new plane, especially a very complex one. I have always used a bottom-up approach which has always worked well for me. I first learn to fly the very basic aircraft, just like I would learn to fly a basic Beech or Cessna. This way, I have the feel of the plane BEFORE I learn the automation, control systems, etc. All the basic stuff from air work, pattern work, strange flight attitudes, etc. I then start adding a section at a time, learning it, then moving to the next feature. All the time flying the aircraft but with more features and automation. The end game is a full working knowledge of the plane and its systems. Being somewhat of a realist, and a licensed pilot, I know you must know how to fly that plane as if it were a Cessna 152, if need be. Just my philosophy, and the way I was trained. Works for me !!!

Thanks Apollo. It's quite a big undertaking because, I think, with a product the quality of PMDG you are quite literally teaching yourself to fly a modern day jetliner. I guess it's one of those questions asked a lot but do any of you think if you clocked up enough hours and a thorough understanding of every system you'd be (capable, not proficient) at using the jet in the real world? Provided you had suitably inherent ability and nerves didn't get to you.... What do you fly in real life by the way?

Cold and Dark start = Electrical Power Up Procedure on pg 209 of the FCOM1 followed by the Amplified Normal Procedures on page 77.

Just saw this, thanks :)

Damn cant change my other name. Using my real name now as I saw it was for a legit reason!

Okay I know this is a fourth post, but I cant seem to delete them. Only just noticed how many posts I've bumped myself up by! Sorry...Won't happen again *idiot*