Hello, Dudes!I usually fly CRJ-700 on FSX. I've seen many articles of landing and they only tell landing speed and flaps. Like Landing Speed should be 150 Knots and Flaps 45. But I want more to ask.What should be the Altitude? and Distance while landing? and when to make flaps 45.This is what I do.At 1200 Altitude, and 3nm away from Runway, I turn Autopilot off and then make flaps 45. So sometimes, CRJ lands well and sometimes not. So what do you recommend? 1- Landing Altitude 2- Landing Distance 3- Landing Speed 4- Landing Flaps?Regards,Happpy.

There is a guy named David22585 on the Aerosoft Forums. He's is a current typed rated CRJ F/O and flies for a Delta Connection carrier in the United States. Go to the Aerosoft forums, search his name and send me a PM, he'll certainly be able to give you some actaul, real world advice + he's a very nice guy.Cheers

There is a guy named David22585 on the Aerosoft Forums. He's is a current typed rated CRJ F/O and flies for a Delta Connection carrier in the United States. Go to the Aerosoft forums, search his name and send me a PM, he'll certainly be able to give you some actaul, real world advice + he's a very nice guy.Cheers

Thanks man! I do this.

Hey, was just referred here from aerosoft through Happy Man.What is going on with you're landings? The CRJ700, and especially the -900 is a verry slippery aircraft and with the swept back wings, wants to fly fast. 150 knots for a Vref at flaps 45 is VERY fast, even for a fully loaded -900. Typical Vref for a loaded -700 and -900 with a typical landing fuel weight of 4000-5000 lbs of fuel is between 125 and 132 knots.Typical profile depends if you are doing an ILS, non precision, visual backing it up with the ILS, or just strictly a visual approach. Each is different, and also tailored to the specific airspace in real life. For example, in Atlanta they always have you maintain 180 knots till the marker, so your profile goes out the window there, but in Detroit you are slowed much earlier. Newark is slowing you to 180 knots, and sometimes 170 40 miles from the airport.But a general answer to your questions.....1- Landing AltitudeI'm not to sure what you mean by this question. Typically, by 1000' AGL, you want to be configured and stabilized in the landing configuration.2- Landing DistanceFor a "pattern" type style approach all visual, keep a distance of 3nm from the runway. A -700/-900 only NEEDS 3000 ft of runway to land and stop with full brakes and reversers as long as you're on Vref, but requires 4k-5k of runway per regulations in the US.3- Landing SpeedTypical is a Flap 45 Vref is 125-133, and per our SOP's, we add +5. I've had empty -700's for a ferry flight with little fuel be as low as 122 before, so I maintain 127. I've had heads -900's for alternates due to weather with lots of fuel be as much as 135 (HIGH end), so I maintain 140. Even 2 knots fast, is significant for lift.4- Landing Flaps?45 every time unless of a failure.For landing, this is something you learn and feel with the real plane. When you pull power out, the nose wants to lift up so you need to hold it down. I start to easy power out at the 100' call out, and by 50', have it at idle. Start a shallow flare at 20 feet, and flared at 10 feet and easy it down. I have a few videos I'll post up later when movie maker works right.Any other questions, feel free to ask.

Hey, was just referred here from aerosoft through Happy Man.What is going on with you're landings? The CRJ700, and especially the -900 is a verry slippery aircraft and with the swept back wings, wants to fly fast. 150 knots for a Vref at flaps 45 is VERY fast, even for a fully loaded -900. Typical Vref for a loaded -700 and -900 with a typical landing fuel weight of 4000-5000 lbs of fuel is between 125 and 132 knots.Typical profile depends if you are doing an ILS, non precision, visual backing it up with the ILS, or just strictly a visual approach. Each is different, and also tailored to the specific airspace in real life. For example, in Atlanta they always have you maintain 180 knots till the marker, so your profile goes out the window there, but in Detroit you are slowed much earlier. Newark is slowing you to 180 knots, and sometimes 170 40 miles from the airport.But a general answer to your questions.....1- Landing AltitudeI'm not to sure what you mean by this question. Typically, by 1000' AGL, you want to be configured and stabilized in the landing configuration.2- Landing DistanceFor a "pattern" type style approach all visual, keep a distance of 3nm from the runway. A -700/-900 only NEEDS 3000 ft of runway to land and stop with full brakes and reversers as long as you're on Vref, but requires 4k-5k of runway per regulations in the US.3- Landing SpeedTypical is a Flap 45 Vref is 125-133, and per our SOP's, we add +5. I've had empty -700's for a ferry flight with little fuel be as low as 122 before, so I maintain 127. I've had heads -900's for alternates due to weather with lots of fuel be as much as 135 (HIGH end), so I maintain 140. Even 2 knots fast, is significant for lift.4- Landing Flaps?45 every time unless of a failure.For landing, this is something you learn and feel with the real plane. When you pull power out, the nose wants to lift up so you need to hold it down. I start to easy power out at the 100' call out, and by 50', have it at idle. Start a shallow flare at 20 feet, and flared at 10 feet and easy it down. I have a few videos I'll post up later when movie maker works right.Any other questions, feel free to ask.

First of all thanks man!About landing Altitude means, on what altitude we should prepare for landing. I mean suppose I'm 3nm away from Landing Runway (this is distance), so what should be my plane's altitude at that time (when I'm away from 3nm)? 1000ft above ground? 1500ft ? or 3000ft ???? Because I want a specific Altitude or height on which I when I turn Flaps to 45 and close Autopilot, then plane itself own should come on the right place of the Runway and land perfectly. I hope you'll have understand what I'm saying. English is little bad. Sorry for this.

Another thing is that on FSX I can land well at this specification:AGL or prepare for landing Altitude (I turn off Auto Pilot and down landing gear): 1200ft above ground. Plane goes into sea at 1000ft.Speed for Landing150 Knots for me. Distance 3nm.What do you think is it right? What do you recommend to me?

First of all thanks man!About landing Altitude means, on what altitude we should prepare for landing. I mean suppose I'm 3nm away from Landing Runway (this is distance), so what should be my plane's altitude at that time (when I'm away from 3nm)? 1000ft above ground? 1500ft ? or 3000ft ???? Because I want a specific Altitude or height on which I when I turn Flaps to 45 and close Autopilot, then plane itself own should come on the right place of the Runway and land perfectly. I hope you'll have understand what I'm saying. English is little bad. Sorry for this.

No problem at all. You want to try to maintain a 3 degree glideslope to the touchdown zone itself. For a 3 degree path, this will net you approximately 800 FPM descent rate at Vref in a landing configuration. At 1nm, you should be at approximately 300' AGL, which is where you should be configured and stabilized at. At 3nm, you should be at approximately 900 feet. These are just rough estimates, so using an ILS or you're eyes with a descent rate of 800 fpm while looking at where you will touch down is the biggest thing.This is how I would fly a complete visual approach (from base to final)......On base, 15nm from the airport at 200 kias, flaps 1, start to slow down to 180 then flaps 8. When I'm 10 miles out, flaps 20, slowing to 160 and then gear down, flaps 30 landing check to the line. 7-8nm out, starting my descent from an altitude of approximate 2500' agl and calling for flaps 45. By the time I descent to 1000' agl, I am stabilized on a descent.

Another thing is that on FSX I can land well at this specification: AGL or prepare for landing Altitude (I turn off Auto Pilot and down landing gear): 1200ft above ground. Plane goes into sea at 1000ft. Speed for Landing150 Knots for me. Distance 3nm. What do you think is it right? What do you recommend to me?

3nm and 1200 feet is good, slow to 135 knots, with a descent rate of 800-900 fpm. Power may be you're issue, what power setting do you have for N1? It should fall between 55% and 60% N1.

Recommend? Practice.

And thanks to crjpilot, he now knows what to practice

No problem at all. You want to try to maintain a 3 degree glideslope to the touchdown zone itself. For a 3 degree path, this will net you approximately 800 FPM descent rate at Vref in a landing configuration. At 1nm, you should be at approximately 300' AGL, which is where you should be configured and stabilized at. At 3nm, you should be at approximately 900 feet. These are just rough estimates, so using an ILS or you're eyes with a descent rate of 800 fpm while looking at where you will touch down is the biggest thing.This is how I would fly a complete visual approach (from base to final)......On base, 15nm from the airport at 200 kias, flaps 1, start to slow down to 180 then flaps 8. When I'm 10 miles out, flaps 20, slowing to 160 and then gear down, flaps 30 landing check to the line. 7-8nm out, starting my descent from an altitude of approximate 2500' agl and calling for flaps 45. By the time I descent to 1000' agl, I am stabilized on a descent.3nm and 1200 feet is good, slow to 135 knots, with a descent rate of 800-900 fpm. Power may be you're issue, what power setting do you have for N1? It should fall between 55% and 60% N1.

LOL. You will probably laugh at how I fly my air plane. :(1- First of all I set mouse as yoke and give full throttle, when speed reaches 120, the I raise the nose of the plane by mouse and it goes lightening fast towards sky.2- After this, I set Auto pilot and remove mouse as yoke. On autopilot, I set Flaps on 0, Speed to 150, Altitude 1200ft, click on fligt director and NAV buttons, switch to GPS from NAV. Plane itself drives it on the right route that I set at Flight Planner.3- Near Landing, Just at 3nm distance away from runway, I turn autopilot off and down the landing gear and make Mouse again as Yoke. Also make flaps 45. Then by my own mind using my own mouse, I touch down to runway. After touching down, I set Throttle to Zero and apply Brakes.I don't apply even TOD, Vref and Heading because I don't know how to apply these. Even I make my flight path very straight to the landing runway so because I don't know where and when to apply heading and also don't know the difference between Course and Heading. I don't know what's Vref and I don't apply TOD because I don't know how to use this.I don't set frequencies like COM1, COM2 and NAV1, NAV2 because I don't see any benefits of these.I don't contact ATC tower because they tell me nothing except "Runway is clear and so on..."Now what do you say, what I should do for applying all these things?Best Regards,Happpy.

crj pilot,The selection of available commuter/regional aircraft for FSX is dismal (even now, nearly 6 years later). For many reasons, I will entirely discount the Wilco/feetthere offerings. My question is, what do you think of the default CRJ-700? How does it perform compared to reality? etc.Do you have any particular add-on aircraft you favor?Thanks.

LOL. You will probably laugh at how I fly my air plane. :(1- First of all I set mouse as yoke and give full throttle, when speed reaches 120, the I raise the nose of the plane by mouse and it goes lightening fast towards sky.2- After this, I set Auto pilot and remove mouse as yoke. On autopilot, I set Flaps on 0, Speed to 150, Altitude 1200ft, click on fligt director and NAV buttons, switch to GPS from NAV. Plane itself drives it on the right route that I set at Flight Planner.3- Near Landing, Just at 3nm distance away from runway, I turn autopilot off and down the landing gear and make Mouse again as Yoke. Also make flaps 45. Then by my own mind using my own mouse, I touch down to runway. After touching down, I set Throttle to Zero and apply Brakes.I don't apply even TOD, Vref and Heading because I don't know how to apply these. Even I make my flight path very straight to the landing runway so because I don't know where and when to apply heading and also don't know the difference between Course and Heading. I don't know what's Vref and I don't apply TOD because I don't know how to use this.I don't set frequencies like COM1, COM2 and NAV1, NAV2 because I don't see any benefits of these.I don't contact ATC tower because they tell me nothing except "Runway is clear and so on..."Now what do you say, what I should do for applying all these things?Best Regards,Happpy.

Its very hard to explain all these things from a point of where you're at to be honest. The CRJ itself is a very simple aircraft in terms of a commercial airlines, but it is still a very advanced aircraft also. From my perspective, its very hard to explain how to operate the aircraft properly unless you have all the basics of flying down first. Another problem is the fact that the default CRJ is nowhere near as close to the real jet.Your best bet is to start on the default lesson plans and work your way through more advanced knowledge that will make things easier for you.

crj pilot,The selection of available commuter/regional aircraft for FSX is dismal (even now, nearly 6 years later). For many reasons, I will entirely discount the Wilco/feetthere offerings. My question is, what do you think of the default CRJ-700? How does it perform compared to reality? etc.Do you have any particular add-on aircraft you favor?Thanks.

I agree, its horrible. I hope that I can help with the Wilco CRJ to make it as real as possible. Or even help with the Aerosoft to make it a reality. The current Wilco is horrible and not even close to a real life CRJ is many aspects. As far as the default goes, its far from real also. Speed mode is way off, and just from that, I ignored the product from the start. I don't fly at the moment, but I am just getting back into FSX and VATSIM since I just built myself a new i7-2700k rig.Rest assure, as soon as the Aerosoft or Wilco CRJ's come out, I will be testing them and comparing them to the real life aircraft. But for now, a few shots from the last few days I've been working:Enjoy!

I agree, its horrible. I hope that I can help with the Wilco CRJ to make it as real as possible. Or even help with the Aerosoft to make it a reality. The current Wilco is horrible and not even close to a real life CRJ is many aspects. As far as the default goes, its far from real also. Speed mode is way off, and just from that, I ignored the product from the start. I don't fly at the moment, but I am just getting back into FSX and VATSIM since I just built myself a new i7-2700k rig.Rest assure, as soon as the Aerosoft or Wilco CRJ's come out, I will be testing them and comparing them to the real life aircraft. But for now, a few shots from the last few days I've been working:Enjoy!

Thanks for the feedback. Mach 0.81 at FL410... wow.We really need some good regionals in FSX. There is much to like about elements of the Wilco/FT stuff, but in the end, the whole packages will leave you VERY cold. I do realize that a few regionals are on deck and some of them should be good: Aerosoft/DA's CRJs and QualityWings' BAE 146 variants. Of course, I can't count out my beloved PMDG JS4100, I would just KILL if they would do it's little sister: the J31/32.

Its very hard to explain all these things from a point of where you're at to be honest. The CRJ itself is a very simple aircraft in terms of a commercial airlines, but it is still a very advanced aircraft also. From my perspective, its very hard to explain how to operate the aircraft properly unless you have all the basics of flying down first. Another problem is the fact that the default CRJ is nowhere near as close to the real jet.Your best bet is to start on the default lesson plans and work your way through more advanced knowledge that will make things easier for you.

OK I understand. Can you please tell me where to get the basics (default lesson plans) from? Can you please tell me any source to get right knowledge like any Tutorials or Book or Web Site or Animations or Videos etc......? What do you recommend?

OK I understand. Can you please tell me where to get the basics (default lesson plans) from? Can you please tell me any source to get right knowledge like any Tutorials or Book or Web Site or Animations or Videos etc......? What do you recommend?

FSX has a good start to all the basics in the lessons.

I just completed a flight with Posky's CRJ700 merged with Wilco and I have to say that the plane behaves like you described with the real plane. Even the nose up tendency when pulling out power. So I would recommend this merge and also use posky's latest air-files.Of course you should also merge the default VC and place Wilco's gauges in it. Great frame rates