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hi !i'm 'flying' my planes within fsx on a dual monitor pcmonitor 1 is 'main panel' and on monitor 2 there are severalinstruments (i.e. radio stack,...) arranged for quick accessi open this additional windows on the main panel, disconnct them andmove them to monitor 2 - saving it as a flight brings up this'2 monitor cockpit' agaien when the propriate flight is loadedthat works fine with all my planes in fsx - and also for pmdg's 737in my 'old' fs2004but ist dos not work for the 737 NGX in my FSXevery time i move a disconnected window/panel from monitor 1 tomonitor 2 it turns empty and blackis this the normal behavior in fsx for the 737 NGX ?unfortunately PMDG cannot answer that question - they told me, thatnobody in PMDG has an 2 monitor environment to check that.... (poor anwer)for me it is an fsx-standard (as it was in all ms-FS's) to disconnect windowsand move them around wherever i wantis there anybody with the same problem and maybe with an solution ?i feel it very uncomfortable to permanently clcik throug all the panels andinstruments and fill up the main-cockpit with all this stuff?thanks for feedbackKurt

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I use two monitors with the NGX. but I have to run FSX in windowed mode (alt-enter) or I have the same problem. Also if I open too many windows in the second monitor it drags the framerate down. Hope this helps.

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thanks for your feedbacks@ quadraspleenyes both - zooming into an instrument brings up that instrument but blanks it outat its original position in the cockpit - than disconnecting it and moving itto monitor 2 blnaks it out completely....@ luscombeguythanks for the hint with windowed mode -i'll try

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I'm running two different size screens (one 27 widescreen and one 24 square) and I have no probs. slight fr hit, but no issues. Can drag stuff all over, close windows, resize etc What graphics card, how much video ram? What O/S? Interestingly, fraps only seems to record the main screen---I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=50.727711,-1.945256

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I get way lower frame rates if I run I windowed mode. I can fully detach windows but I can already drag them onto the second screen in full screen mode anyway and gain 25-40fps

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What OS and video card are you running? I expect this is fixable with a little troubleshooting and patience. Happy to help :)

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thanks for your feedbacks@ quadraspleenyes both - zooming into an instrument brings up that instrument but blanks it outat its original position in the cockpit - than disconnecting it and moving itto monitor 2 blnaks it out completely....
Zooming into an instrument blanks out the original in the panel on mine but I can then move the zoomed window wherever without it blanking out. I think this is normal? I don't have any other PMDG planes so can't say. Surprised to hear no-one at PMDG has dual monitors!

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In window mode you can "undock" the DU or FMC and move it to the second window. In full screen you can just drag it over and re size. The spot of the original DU or FMC will remain blank.

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Dual monitors + FSX + PMDG = A load of pain and is disapointing. On my system anyway. I wish it worked.Multi displays. I've never got it to work. You get black screens, goofy mouse cursers. Difficulty exiting FSX to access your desktop. However I have to reserve judgment because I have only used this one system with FSX. It might be a different story on another system.I would of liked my set up to of developed in the multi-monitor direction, but PMDG, you feel, are more interested in getting us to fly in the 3D cockpit, which is fantastic when you start to get used to it.

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I run a 40inch main monitor and a 27inch secondary monitor with the ngx. No problems with undocking panels noted - they don't black out for me - except frames do drop, and more importantly for me enb stops working once you click on a panel on the second monitor. Because of the enb problems i don't really use indocked panels any more, but they do work. Using a gtx570 in windowed mode.

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thanks for your feedbacks@ quadraspleen i run fsx with win7 home premium 64bit, 8gb ram, nvidia gtx 580pc and graphicscard are powerful enough to 'fly' with a 3d cockpiton one monitor and an open outside view of the planeon monitor 2 without losing smooth flight on both monitors - even whenyou move around the flying aircraft...but my problem with the 737NGX still exists - also in windowed mode....:-(

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One way to possibly solve this problem is Digital Dual Head to Go. I fly the NGX with FSX spanned across two monitors using the virtual cockpit. No problems at all and the graphics are great.Don

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@ Kpetru: you have an almost identical setup to me bar I am using W7 Ultimate x64. What Windows dezsktop theme are you using? have you followed NickN's graphical setup tweaks over at simmforums (http://www.simforums.com/forums/topic29041.html)This will work. It works absolutely fine with me. At cruise level I get a steady 60FPS (30 around most airports) with MCDU and ND both on second screen but blanked on original panel - which is a bit annoying, but hey, I've got NGX so who cares! I can drag; resize; open and close etc etc. never misses a beat.My graphics are unlimited in FSX; no external limiter and with Vsync turned ON in FSX.cfg. I've also O/C my CPU to 4.9 (water cooled) and my GTX580 massively using Afterburner, and it still all works so it must be something specific to your particular setup.Try NickN's windows appearance settings if you haven't already..I'm happy to send any cfg's or settings of various bits and bobs if you need any help (I run an IT support company so this is kind of my bag anyway - I've had enough grief with my system getting it to where it is now!) I know how important it is to get it running on two screens!which Nvidia drivers are you using and did you install the 3d driver/ If you have no 3d kit uninstall the drivers using the custom-> clean install option with the setup and only install the drivers and PhysX. Also uninstall the update module as it creates a dummy user on your PC which can sometimes cause issuesGood luck

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hi quadraspleen !i have no performance issues on my pc and fsx runs perfect - the only issue is withthe 737ngx and multiple monitors/windows/panelsthe 'aircraft' itself flys perfect - high framrates - everthing is smoothso i have to go through all the hints i've got in this forumas soon as my problem is solved, i'll be back to share the solutionbut it will last at least two weeks because tomorrow i start anrealflight with an A380 to vacation :-) Kurt

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2 suggestions1: try resizing the window after undocking & moving it.2: go to your nvidia control panel & try changing the physx controller.Edit: another thing to check is how many video card entries you have in your fsx.cfg. Multiple sections for the same card (sometimes with different settings in each one) did that to me once. After cleaning up fsx.cfg of the extra card entries all my undocked panels work great.

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Dual monitors + FSX + PMDG = A load of pain and is disapointing. On my system anyway. I wish it worked.Multi displays. I've never got it to work. You get black screens, goofy mouse cursers. Difficulty exiting FSX to access your desktop. However I have to reserve judgment because I have only used this one system with FSX. It might be a different story on another system.I would of liked my set up to of developed in the multi-monitor direction, but PMDG, you feel, are more interested in getting us to fly in the 3D cockpit, which is fantastic when you start to get used to it.
Here: FSX + PMDG + 6 screens. Runs perfectly.Since I disabled the ATI Eyefinity and hooked up my 3 main screens on my old Matrox, all CTD's were gone. I have all major instruments as panel on my 2 bottom screens and the complete forward and aft overhead on my "overhead" screen".Bert Van Bulck

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hi everyone !returning from my vacation i startetd my 737ngx to go through all the hintsbut - surprise surprise - everything works fine with undocking windows and moving themto my second monitor.... - unless the original position in the cockpit stays blank... so i have no explanation what my problem was caused from......Kurt

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