February 26, 200422 yr Is there a freeware download out there that has very fluid flight instrument motion? I need a relatively non complex aircraft to practice IFR activities with. I upgraded to the FSD 2004 version of the AC115 hoping it would do the job. Flys great but the instrument motion is just the same jerky stuff in the MS stock aircraft. The best they had was the AC115 for FS2000. Any freeware out there that has focused on smooth IFR? Thanks...Roger
February 26, 200422 yr No freeware which I am aware of, but there are great gauges offered by RealityXP. They are payware, but they are well worth it in my opinion. ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
February 26, 200422 yr I've just wrote Reality-XP about this, it would be great if they can make smooth analog gages and offered them with an easy to use application that would allow you to install these gauges in any panel you want. I think it would be great to have a VOR indicator, HSI, VSI, Attitude indicator, ADF indicator, Heading indicator, even a standard altimeter would be great too.You can voice your suggestion emailing Reality-XP at [email protected] AND posting in this thread wouldn't hurt either http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_post...W=smooth+analogCarlos.
February 26, 200422 yr You *might* be able to fix this from within FS9. First set aircraft realism settings to maximun realism. Then go into display settings in FS9 and turn off antialiasing (you can still force AA using your graphics card settings). Finally start backing off the sliders substantially. The idea is to reduce the load on your system and hopefully your instruments will update faster. I'm not positive this will work because I don't know how FS9 priortizes a lot of its functions. If this helps but not too the extent you require just continue reducing your system load from FS and elsewhere, like not running programs in the background. You will lose a lot of "eye candy" but if your main desire is practicing IFR procedures you don't need it. Also there's lots of info to help you in the forums and a lot more you can do to cut back system load.David
February 26, 200422 yr To echo the other respondents so far, I'm not aware of a freeware, "smooth" gauge solution. The RealityXP JetLine 2 and Jetline 4 products will certainly provide much smoother gauge animation (I have JL4 and it's very nice in conjunction with the KingAir or Learjet), but ya gotta pay for them, and you won't find those type of instruments in most GA airplanes just yet.http://www.reality-xp.com/products/JL2/index.htmhttp://www.reality-xp.com/products/JL4/index.htmThere is another payware solution if you're looking for a basic GA-style panel to do instrument-centric practice with, and that's Project Magenta's GA IFR Panel. It's an OpenGL-based, standalone application, and as such is as smooth as glass (no pun intended) and can be run on a 2nd PC if desired for "load distribution".http://www.projectmagenta.com/products/ifrpanel.htmlOther airplanes that come to mind in terms of instrument smoothness, that I have personal experience with, are the RealAir Simulations SF.260 and the Flight 1 Piper Meridian (although the Meridian is a "glass cockpit" airplane which may not be optimal if you fly a "steam gauge" airplane in real life - the scan is at least a little different). Also, the recently-released FSD Piper Navajo (twin engine) has two panel displays that would be good for IFR work.I realize that you asked for freeware solutions - I appreciate that - but again, to my knowledge, no freeware provider has come up with instruments that have the smoothness that I (and probably you) want. Reality XP has some magic under their belts that make their FS2004 gauges (e.g. JL2/JL4) much more fluid than stock ones, and the Project Magenta-style "big iron" instruments take advantage of OpenGL to provide a similar (or superior) level of smoothness.IOW, ya gotta pay for it 8^) .Dave Blevins System: Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3 mobo *** i7 2700K @ 5gHz w/ Corsair H80 cooler NVidia GTX 570 OC *** 8 GB 1600 Corsair Vengeance DRAM *** CoolerMaster HAF X case System overclocked and tuned for FSX by fs-gs.com Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog stick/throttle & CH Products Pro Pedals Various GoFlight panels *** PFC avionics stack
February 26, 200422 yr You will find this Reality XP 737 style ADI here in the AVSIM library. I use it by myself and it is by far the smoothest gauge I have. I only can recommend it. Here is the link to the download:http://library.avsim.net/search.php?Search...04gau&Go=SearchWolfgang
February 26, 200422 yr Or, you can ditch Microsoft entirely and get X-Plane... which under proper conditions is actually certified. On a halfway decent system, it is very very fluid; my (year old, cheap-ish) machine gets 30-odd fps. The instruments update at the same rate as the view in X-Plane, and they're antialiased as well. Also for many common GA aircraft there are very good models available; certainly the handling differences between the Cherokee model I have and the real thing are down to stick vs yoke and pedals more than anything missing from the simulation.I have to say, X-Plane's instruments are actually smoother than the instruments in some real aircraft I have flown... not that those are IFR certified planes, as I'm still working on my PPL.
February 26, 200422 yr Wow....what a great gauge. I did download it into the default 737. What a difference. Totally smooth. If only there were others for some of the GA type aircraft. I don't mind paying but really am looking for complex single or light twin type to practice with, something like I fly in the real airplane world. Thanks for the tip....Roger
February 26, 200422 yr Hi, the same "quality of smoothness" has been achieved in the Flight1 Meridian EFIS. Probably not the type of GA aircraft one would take lessons in, but great to learn nevertheless. The only other GA training aid I
February 27, 200422 yr you should keep in mind that when the gage is designed, the programer can provide for low to high 'fluidity'. This is done via settings in the gage software that determine how many CPU cycles it passes before an update. CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
February 27, 200422 yr collins_eadi.zip by Harald Scheidl is really nice! It is much smoother than the default, but not as nice as the Reality XP gauges. EADI only unfortunately, but excellent none the less!Available in the AVSIM library.Good luck!http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/1900driver.jpg
February 27, 200422 yr Roger,For serious IFR training I would definitly go with X-Plane anf forget M$FS which is toy compared too. As I am building a cockpit I am like an hostage and have to use that soft (in the while). Magenta Old Efis GC helps a lot and gives you the feeling you fly in a real plane but PMGC is slaved to MSFS and stutters are directly bounced to PMGC via the network. M$FS is definitly a toy for people who love to see thousand moving parts, thousand details on the outside of the plane, fantastic landscapes with almost every details, but from a pilot point of view it is pure junk, and X-Plane with all its weak points in matter scenery and controls possibility is much closer to what you feel when flying a plane. Your plane moves in a fluid? It is like in the reality. With M$FS you can design a Gmax Peterbilt Truck put them on the basic air file of the B 737 and its aircraft.cfg file and the truck will fly. Non-Sense.When designing a plane with plane-maker, if you add a little bump somewhere on the airframe you will immediatly get the consequent drag. You fly what you see. That's not the case with M$FS, and that why together with a serious hardware X-Plane got an FAA approval for CP and ATP on a full motion simulator. Even ELITE did not get that yet.I can just wait to see X-Plane getting compatible to Magenta and having as much connection possibilities as the ones given by FSUIPC.Then I will switch in a glimpse to it.Anyway, I am IR rated and making training just on one screen gives you very habits. You need at least two screen, one simulating the instruments and placed as they are in a plane, and the outside view also in an adequate position. So you must move you head and not just your eyes. With a cockpit you keep sharp on basic instrument scanningwhile sitting in front of a screen you just get bad habits. Believe I am in the simulation since the 80th, after I got my licenses.Roger Wielgus
February 27, 200422 yr Bumping this up so people can vote for a package of Analog GA Gauges made by Reality-XP.Please vote here http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_post...W=smooth+analog AND writting here too [email protected] we are talking about General Aviation gauges, no glass cockpits.Carlos.
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