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SSD / Windows or FSX

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I mean, on the 60GB is that JUST windows, and thats it? Or have you got other things

 

First of all, I do not have a 60 GB SSD. I only have one storage drive as I said, which is my Crucial M4 128 GB SATA3. I've got my Windows on there + FSX + add-ons + F1 2011 + Battlefield 3 + some other crap.

 

If you get a 60GB SSD and install Windows on it, you'll probably have another 30-40 GB left on it. So you can install for example REX, GEX, UTX and AS2012 on that drive to keep it seperate from your second 128 GB SSD for FSX.

 

Hope this helps.

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You should buy two SSD's. 1 60GB for Windows, 1 120GB for FSX. It of course depends on how much add-on stuff you have. But for me, 120 GB for FSX would be more than enough. I've currently used around 60 GB of FSX space and I got quite a lot of scenery.

 

What I recommend, DO NOT buy an SSD with the Sandforce controller. They are very unreliable. Many people will probably try to recommend OCZ Vertex 2 or Vertex 3, but no, I've heard many horror stories about them suddenly ceasing to operate after only several weeks. The OCZ Vertex 4 seems to be good though. As long as it's an SSD with a controller other than a Sandforce controller (like Crucial), you'll have no problems. My Crucial SSD is great, very reliable, and very fast.

 

After I upgraded to an SSD, I did not notice any performance increase. However, I do not have any stutters anymore related to HDD access. However, it won't do anything to microstuttering or hitching, you'll always have a little bit of that.

 

I've been running my 480Gb OCZ Agility 3 SSD for the last 4 months without any issues. If you keep the firmware up to date, you should be good to go.

 

As far as the main topic of this thread, I would highly recommend an SSD for both OS and FSX. I run both on my 480Gb. Buy the largest you can.

 

It's about the access time rather than the throughput when dealing with 100's to 1000's of small files in FSX. Going from milliseconds to nanoseconds is a huge jump and definitely helps when flying and constantly having to find and load new scenery and textures real time.

 

Definitely SSD(s) for both (and do not be deterred from Sandforce controllers! They are great when properly maintained.)

 

Cheers!

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Todd

 

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What do you mean? "Got" in terms of what? If I have to give advice on a ~60 GB Windows SSD, get the Crucial M4 64 GB SATA3. And I recommend getting a Crucial M4 128 GB for FSX. However, you can also get an OCZ Vertex 4 128 GB/256GB, they seem to be good so far, cuz they don't have that horrible and unreliable Sandforce controller. So DO NOT get a Vertex 2 or 3, or any other Sandforce SSDs.

 

If you mean what programms I got on my Windows SSD. Well, I only got on storage drive, which is my Crucial M4 128 GB. I got Windows on there obviously, and FSX with all it's add-ons, and games like F1 2011 and BF3. Only got around 10GB left lol. I'm gonna buy another one soon. :)

 

I love (not) how stuff like this gets said and then everyone is running around saying OCZ is a horrible SSD....a failure waiting to happen.....RUN AWAY! With firmware version 2.15 and higher there have been none of the mentioned problems. My 120gig Vertex 3 has been running flawlessly for some time now.

Clay

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I love (not) how stuff like this gets said and then everyone is running around saying OCZ is a horrible SSD....a failure waiting to happen.....RUN AWAY! With firmware version 2.15 and higher there have been none of the mentioned problems. My 120gig Vertex 3 has been running flawlessly for some time now.

 

It's not OCZ, is the Sandforce controllers. Some people are luckier than others. Yes, the new firmware will probably improve things, but would still not be as reliable as for example Crucial.

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Hi gents!

 

I got two SSD's both Corsair.

 

One is 60GB - Just for windows 7.

Question: I will install windows 7 onto the drive, and then what do you do? Do you move Program files etc etc onto another disc?

 

One is 120GB Just for FSX. I want it to just be clean and to be used soley for FSX.

 

I am going to say goodbye to my old samsung HDD and keep the WD BLACK 640GB. And put my music, others games, etc on that.

 

Here is the links to the two I currently have ordered.

http://www.ebuyer.com/268693-corsair-120gb-force-3-ssd-cssd-f120gb3-bk-cssd-f120gb3-bk

http://www.ebuyer.com/273567-corsair-60gb-force-gt-ssd-2-5-sata-iii-6gb-s-read-555mb-s-cssd-f60gbgt-bk

 

Does that sound good to you guys?

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Hi gents!

 

I got two SSD's both Corsair.

 

One is 60GB - Just for windows 7.

Question: I will install windows 7 onto the drive, and then what do you do? Do you move Program files etc etc onto another disc?

 

One is 120GB Just for FSX. I want it to just be clean and to be used soley for FSX.

 

I am going to say goodbye to my old samsung HDD and keep the WD BLACK 640GB. And put my music, others games, etc on that.

 

Here is the links to the two I currently have ordered.

http://www.ebuyer.co...cssd-f120gb3-bk

http://www.ebuyer.co...cssd-f60gbgt-bk

 

Does that sound good to you guys?

 

To be very honest: NO! You'll probably not have problems with it in the beginning, and you might be lucky that you'll never have problems, but SSD's with the Sandforce controller as I said, are pretty unreliable. The following SSD's have that controller: OCZ, Corsair, GSkill, Mushkin and Intel. I do not recommend those, although they are probably lightning fast, they might be a little unreliable. I highly recommend a Crucial m4 64GB or 128GB, or OCZ Vertex 4 (Vertex 4 does not have the Sandforce controller). But of course it's up to you. I know many horror stories about OCZ and Intel SSDs...

Arjen Vandervelde

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To be very honest: NO! You'll probably not have problems with it in the beginning, and you might be lucky that you'll never have problems, but SSD's with the Sandforce controller as I said, are pretty unreliable. The following SSD's have that controller: OCZ, Corsair, GSkill, Mushkin and Intel. I do not recommend those, although they are probably lightning fast, they might be a little unreliable. I highly recommend a Crucial m4 64GB or 128GB, or OCZ Vertex 4 (Vertex 4 does not have the Sandforce controller). But of course it's up to you. I know many horror stories about OCZ and Intel SSDs...

 

Thanks for the adivice, I would like to hear others opinion about Corsair SSD'S.

In terms of the set up as I listed above, what do you think?!

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Thanks for the adivice, I would like to hear others opinion about Corsair SSD'S.

In terms of the set up as I listed above, what do you think?!

 

If you mean the setup in your previous post then yes, that setup is very good!

 

60GB SSD for OS. You can also put other stuff on it like UTX, GEX, REX and AS2012 to keep your FSX SSD clean. OS is around 30-35 GB so you will have half of it left after OS install. And yes you should just leave your Program Files folder on your OS SSD (C:/ drive)

 

120GB SSD for FSX.

 

640 GB WD Caviar Black for other stuff.

 

 

If I remember correctly, there is a mode in BIOS called RAID. I might be wrong about this, but as far as I've heard, if you enable RAID, the SSD(s) can function as cache for your HDD, and thus your HDD will become faster too.

Arjen Vandervelde

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If you mean the setup in your previous post then yes, that setup is very good!

 

60GB SSD for OS. You can also put other stuff on it like UTX, GEX, REX and AS2012 to keep your FSX SSD clean. OS is around 30-35 GB so you will have half of it left after OS install. And yes you should just leave your Program Files folder on your OS SSD (C:/ drive)

 

120GB SSD for FSX.

 

640 GB WD Caviar Black for other stuff.

 

 

If I remember correctly, there is a mode in BIOS called RAID. I might be wrong about this, but as far as I've heard, if you enable RAID, the SSD(s) can function as cache for your HDD, and thus your HDD will become faster too.

 

Hey dude, thank you for your replies, sincerely.

 

What I will think I will do, because the program files can get pretty full, is I will leave the OS on the SSD and use the HDD as a storage for rex as2012 etc etc.

 

BTW> when installing software, photo real sceneries, with a SSD do things get installed faster? [due to read files]

 

Alex

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Thanks for the adivice, I would like to hear others opinion about Corsair SSD'S.

In terms of the set up as I listed above, what do you think?!

 

You'll be fine Alex. Sandforce issues were fixed a couple of firmware releases ago.

Also ignore the Caviar Black 640GB advice, and the "RAID" thing. Sure Arjen has good intentions but very little idea of what he's talking about

Hey dude, thank you for your replies, sincerely.

 

What I will think I will do, because the program files can get pretty full, is I will leave the OS on the SSD and use the HDD as a storage for rex as2012 etc etc.

 

BTW> when installing software, photo real sceneries, with a SSD do things get installed faster? [due to read files]

 

Alex

 

Yes, basically everything will go faster, except for your framerate. Your pc will boot up faster, programmes will open faster. And yes, programmes will install faster, but not due to read speed, but due to write speed. : )

Arjen Vandervelde

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Hey guys,

 

Today is the day for the windows install, and I am not going to copy over the FSX folder, I am just going to do it clean.

 

Now I have a 60gb SSD for windows, and 120GB for FSX. I have been told this morning that putting FSX on a SSD is a bad idea?? Its much better to put it on a fast HDD.. Whats peoples thoughts on this#?

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You have been told from whom?

 

And for what reason is an SSD worse than an HDD???

 

Bravo Sierra in sight...

George Golas

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You have been told from whom?

 

And for what reason is an SSD worse than an HDD???

 

Bravo Sierra in sight...

 

I know, I think its because its a 120gb and it could fill up quickly? I don't use GEX or UTX and my current size of FSX+addons is 60gb

 

Alex

 

Alex

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Hi,

I have had the same set up as you for just over a year now. 60GB for Windows and 120GB for FSX.

Originally I had a few other things on the FSX drive as well, like DCS A-10, but lately I've had to remove that and everything FSX related that can be run from a different drive. My FSX drive is now at about 110GB mainly due to sceneries (all ORBX regions for example).

I am seriously now having to consider either going back to HDD or getting a larger SSD as I will definitely want to get ORBX NorCal and, UK and New Zealand NI when they come out.

 

So I do have certain amount of sympathy to the issue. However, FSX on SSD has been a pleasure otherwise as it has cut down the annoying loading times a lot.

 

Marko

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