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I have run into a problem when loading FSX and getting an “unhandled exception error” after the crash with a lot of detail associated with the message. It appears that it has something to do with Net.Framework. FSX started crashing after loading scenery on start up, which the scenery never appeared on the screen. I decided to allow windows to restore the system back a few days before this problem occurred. After system restore I now receive “sorttbls.net or one of its dependencies not found”. FSX is now unable to reach the startup screen. I then used the repair feature in windows for the Net.framework4.0, which didn't help. I also notice when I try to use the catalyst control center it gives me the same message concerning the sorttbls.net. I am at a lost on how to get FSX up and running again. I sure hope I do not have to re-install W7 or FSX.

 

Any help is more than appreciated,

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Never heard of sorrttbls.net but I too have been getting Net.framework errors and when I try to re-install a fresh copy from Microsoft, it tells me that a newer version is already installed. I find this so, so aggravating. Typical Microsoft screw-up. Find every which way it can to make life difficult. So, now I just ignore that Net.framework error message. I'm looking out for a clean-up tool that will get rid of all Net.framework files and the let me re-install a clean version again.

 

Will keep an eye on this particular thread.

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Well I have fixed the "sorttbls.nip" problem with the CCC. I was able to reinstall net.framework from the site below.

 

http://www.microsoft...s.aspx?id=17851

 

However, now when I start FSX within less than a minute I get a CTD which appears to be when REX starts loading. Not sure if REX has anything to do with the start up.(how do you disable REX). I also tried a new fsx.cfg and I still can't get more than 30-60 seconds into start up and CTD.

Still looking for a solution.

 

Rick I understand your frustration.

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In CCC, Tools,Startup, look in there to see if REX starts up when you fire up your OS. If it does, then disable it.

 

Additionally, look in Event Vwr, and see what the Faulting Module is. Make a note of the time and date in there and see if it ties up exactly when FSX goes belly-up.That will give you a clue as to what is causing the issue.

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Rick,

REX does start up every time but not sure how to find how to disable it. I am not sure where the Event Vwr is. Something really must be "hay wire" if I can't even use a fresh fsx.cfg. FSX has been running with no problems for over a year.

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You are running Windows 7 just like me. So, Start-search Programs and Files, just type in Event and immediately you will see EventVwr come up. Look under Administrative Alerts and you will see a red mark which points to the time, the error. Expand it and it should give you the Faulting Module

 

As for REX, have you looked where I advised you to in CCleaner? I'm assuming that was what you were referring to?

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Thanks for your continued help. Yes went to CCC and found no REX. I went into REX config and disabled everything there so it did not try to execute at start up; however, within 15 seconds after pressing the icon CTD. I also tried a registry check usinig flight one software but no go. Will look into the "event\vrr

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Just refer to the attached screengrab.

 

Is that where you were looking in to see if REX is in your start-up? If not there, then before you fire up FSX, do a Ctrl-Alt-Del and see if it is in one of your Processes. If it is, then it is being initiated from somewhere else.

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Jim, I take my hat off to you. That was absolutely brilliant research.

 

I'm sure Carl will find this very useful and helpful too.

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Hi Jim,

 

You can't imagine how much I appreciate everyone's help. It has been a busy day here. Although I think I have REX disabled, I did enable REX and tried the suggestion you mentioned. Unfortunately it didn't help. I tried once again with a clean boot with FSX and I got to free flight but I couldn't get any textures or partial textures on the planes. During the fsx loading there was a message to accept or reject "that third party "bglmanx.dll" (2.9.01) dynamic Link Library software maybe bad so I rejected it and FSX loaded for "free flight". I rebooted again this time accepted the "bglmanx file" thinking that was the problem. Now I am back to square one. CTD within 15 -30 seconds. There has got to be a solution somewhere. I have also tried using adminstrator and no administrator. Will keep researching.

 

 

 

Rick thanks for the cleaner tip, Yep I have tried the ctrl alt del--no REX.

 

I have also checked the Event err but nothing that stood out that might cause the problem. All I can say I am learning a lot of troubleshooti techniques during the trail in FSX.

 

By the way this is the start up of creating a new fsx.cfg file. It crashes during this start up. Not sure it this would help.

 

GRAPHICS]

SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500672

[sOUND]

AmbientUIMusicVolume=-6.000000

[Display]

ChangeTime=4.000000

TransitionTime=4.000000

[Main]

User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter

SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes

SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft

SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles

SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats

SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals

SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc

ProcSpeed=5102

PerfBucket=7

[PANELS]

IMAGE_QUALITY=1

[Weather]

WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1

MinGustTime=10

MaxGustTime=500

MinGustRampSpeed=1

MaxGustRampSpeed=200

MinVarTime=5

MaxVarTime=50

MinVarRampSpeed=10

MaxVarRampSpeed=75

TurbulenceScale=1.000000

WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com

WeatherServerPort=80

WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0

AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1

DynamicWeather=2

DownloadWindsAloft=0

DisableTurbulence=0

[DISPLAY.Device.ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series.0]

Mode=1024x768x32

[AccelerationPack]

ControlsFirstRun=0

[CONTROLS]

Controls_Default=Standard

Controls_Current=Standard

[TextInfo.1]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

[TextInfo.2]

FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

GForce=1,3

FuelPercentage=1,4

[TextInfo.3]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

WindDirectionAndSpeed=1,6

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

GForce=2,3

FuelPercentage=2,4

[slewTextInfo.1]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

[slewTextInfo.2]

FrameRate=1,1

LockedFrameRate=1,2

[slewTextInfo.3]

Latitude=1,1

Longitude=1,2

Altitude=1,3

Heading=1,4

AirSpeed=1,5

FrameRate=2,1

LockedFrameRate=2,2

[Trusted]

C:\Flight Simulator X\fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe.lqkuwlzqnzbbhbtanlwczeaiurhboktlrwnboina=1

C:\Flight Simulator X\bglmanx.dll.zcuhbkqznwkltiuqeorunoenkehectobhwcubuwz=1

 

Thanks again

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Just a wild shot in the dark,Carl.

 

Are you any any chance running Cloud9 sceneries? Reason I ask is that bglmanx.dll I think, off my memory, which is grey and old these days. may point to Cloud9 as you also have FSDT scenery. And from past experiences, I have known a faulty Cloud9 dll bring FSX down.

 

Think nothing at all of the help you have received. Part and parcel of being in a Forum community.

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During the fsx loading there was a message to accept or reject "that third party "bglmanx.dll" (2.9.01) dynamic Link Library software maybe bad so I rejected it and FSX loaded for "free flight".

 

Whenever you install new addons into FSX, you will be asked if you trust a .dll or a gauge or something else. Rest assured they are safe to accept. The bglmanx.dll belongs to FSDT products like GSX, Las Vegas Airport, Chicago airport, etc., etc. If you do not trust the addon, then the product will not function properly. You can fix this easily by deleting or renaming your fsx.cfg, restarting fsx and letting the config rebuild. Remember, when you start fsx for the first time after deleting or renaming it, you will be asked to trust a lot of products depending on what all you have installed. You can also open up your fsx.cfg and go down to the trusted section and deleted everything under [Trusted]. This is probably your problem overall. Please say yes when you start up FSX and are asked if you trust something.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Even though you show that the bglmanx.dll has been trusted, I would still go in and delete the Trusted section and restart fsx and trust everything again. If the fsx.cfg above is all that you have as a config, it is corrupted and missing most of the lines (about half of the config). Delete it again, restart fsx, and try rebuilding it again.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Jim,

 

Yep I had done that several times on a rebuild. It was just that I was not familiar with that file. After my last post I did rmember that was a fsdt file. I did uninstall my last update on GSX since it was the latest addition I had changed before all of this stuff started. Still unable to get going. Will keep working at it sinceI I would guess i I have over $1K of scenry, etc added over the years so I dread having to thing of a reinstall of FSX.

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Hi Carl

 

Just a wild shot. Why don't you uninstall everything related to FSDT and see how you go from there? Then one by one re-install those FSDT sceneries. There cannot be that many FSDT sceneries so you'd not have to go through a complete FSX re-install which you dread.

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Good Morning Jim and Rick ,

 

I tried setting up a new start, when it came to the fsdt addon manager and one other FSDT files I did not allow them to be "trusted". This allowed to get to the actual screen before starting free fly, missions, etc. I was able to check the scenery library, which all appeared to be set properly. Also set up display for scenery, resolution etc. When I set to free flight the default plane lacked textures and also looked completely out of place meaning the wings were not aligned. Check other planes and same problem. Really wierd almost like a problem with the video card. Loaded to KTYS and all the plane and scenery lacked any definition or resolution (all washed out), wheels in the runway. Really weird. I tried changing out the plane and CTD. Is there a repair mechanism putting in the FSX disk and accel disk to see if they could do a repair job. If that is possible will I have to reinstall all my payware. GEX, UTX, etc.? Finally would it be feasible to set my computer back a few days when everything was running with no problems?

 

Any other suggestions are alwarys welcome

 

Thanks guys,

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Maybe try reinstalling your graphics card driver,and see if that helps?

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If that is possible will I have to reinstall all my payware. GEX, UTX, etc.? Finally would it be feasible to set my computer back a few days when everything was running with no problems?

 

There is a repair option with FSX. Just insert the FSX disk and select the repair option. You'll have to do it with the Acceleration disk too. Restoring your computer back to before the problem occurred is really for adding new software. I don't think the restore program saves your FSX.cfg, your scenery.cfg, your dll.xml, or your exe.dll which could be causing the problem. VC10Man had an idea but, instead of reinstalling the FSDT scenery, try disabling all your FSDT scenery in the Scenery Library. If that fixes the problem, then start enabling each one until you find a problem. You can also download and install the latest AddonManager on the FSDT site and it will check for problems and update your FSDT stuff. I'm not sure what is entered in the computer system if you say you do not trust something. If an entry is made in the registry, then the item in the registry could be telling FSX not to initiate a module or dll. Just thinking and maybe something to consider.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Hi Carl, sorry to hear you are experiencing CTD. I'm not as technical as some of the troubleshooting genius here. I know most of us dreaded the experience of re-install everything. Especially you talking about $1K worth of add-ons. I recently had to reinstall everything due to CTD, because the amount of time looking for a solutions trying to rescue the program is just frustrated.

If you really treasure the program, is best to start from fresh and do it right. For me, I learn a lot from my research on how to create a better and stable fsx. :)

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Maybe try reinstalling your graphics card driver,and see if that helps?

 

Good point for some reason that slipped my mind. It sure appears something is wrong with the graphics; however, I have no problems with any of my other programs.

 

I don't think the restore program saves your FSX.cfg, your scenery.cfg, your dll.xml, or your exe.dll which could be causing the problem. VC10Man had an idea but, instead of reinstalling the FSDT scenery, try disabling all your FSDT scenery in the Scenery Library

 

Jim, Yoou may be correct since I did do a restore when all of this really came to a head. Will try the lastest suggestions before having to probably donate a week or more having to go ballestic on a total new install.

 

I recently had to reinstall everything due to CTD, because the amount of time looking for a solutions trying to rescue the program is just frustrated.

 

You sure do have a good point, I am not a technician as well but thankful we have some good ones on the forums. I can't image me taking my comouter to a shop and asking them to fix it when they probably don't even know what a FSX is.

 

Thanks to all for hanging in there with me.

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Hello

Why not reinstall a fresh copy of FSDT addon manager this should fix any issues with BGLman.dll

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/products_addonmanager.html

 

Then get a copy of FSX DLL.XML Viewer and Repair Utility from Flight1 and check out your dll.xml file and also your exe.xml file remove all but the standard entries

http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library

 

Also cut out all of the entries in your Scenery.cfg leaving only the basic FSX entries and then before starting FSX delete all the entries in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\FSX\SceneryIndexes\

 

Delete FLTSIM.FLT and FLTSIM.WX then copy and rename DEFAULT_enu.FLT and DEFAULT_enu.Wx to

FLTSIM.FLT and FLTSIM.WX

 

Remove all of the trusted entries in FSX.cfg or just delete the FSX.cfg completely.

 

All this will put you back to square one as far as FSX default setup is concerned.

 

Then restart FSX let it all rebuild and reindex and see how you get on from there.

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Best thing I ever invested in Carl was a seagate external hard drive with a facility to burn an image of my computer.It took me a long time to install FSX properly but just took my time doing everything by the letter with all the guides out there knowing that I only need to do it once. I have images of just a basic window 7 install with drivers, next one with FSX, GEX, REX and PMDG installed which I know is 100% stable, and a couple of other images with other add ons installed which I know will never crash. If ever I get a problem with another addon which causes CTD, I just burn my latest image which I know will be fine. This has saved me unknown time having to reinstall everything. Definitely worth considering. I reckon it would take me around 6 hours to start from scratch again..............

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Why not reinstall a fresh copy of FSDT addon manager this should fix any issues with BGLman.dll

 

I have uninstalled FSDT addon manager and assosicated files. Also unchecked all sceneries related to FSDT. I have no CTD getting to the free flight; however, I still experience only an outline of each plane with offesets of parts of the plane such as the propellar in the air, no landing gear, etc. All the planes I choose to fly have similar problems. I can get to an airport but the only thing that is clear is the 2d cockpit and gauges all other i.e VC, outside view etc is reallly messed up. I have downloaded the most recent video driver but it did not help. The scenery appears to have a lot of shimmerring and poor clouds, lights are black squares. To me it would appear something with the graphics or installation of the planes are screwed up. I have never saw a floating propellar in the air before now. The sound is fine.

 

Delete FLTSIM.FLT and FLTSIM.WX then copy and rename DEFAULT_enu.FLT and DEFAULT_enu.Wx to

FLTSIM.FLT and FLTSIM.WX

 

Mad dog, Could I try the above before the FSX DLL viewer and deleting the scenery files since with my limited knowledge I keep thinking it still has something to do with texture and putting parts of a plane together in the correct sequence, if that make sense.

 

I did a complete back up on external drive, which has not been kept up to date but was wondering if some particular file could replace an exiisting file such as an old fsg or scenery cfg. or FSX.exe

 

thanks all,

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