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mikethe6th

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Good afternoon,

 

I hope you don't mind me posting this here but I tend to find a more serious level of simmer lurking in these forums compared to elsewhere on the site.

 

I'm looking for an ATC addon and I think there's only two for FSX. ProFlight Emulator or Radar Contact 4. As far as I can see they're both 5 years old and both have quite a few flaws. Do you use either of these products and if so which one would you recommend? Realism is key for me.

 

I usually fly with VATSIM but you obviously can't guarantee coverage.

 

Many thanks,

 

Mike Parker

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There are other online networks, such as IVAO if you fly in Europe and PilotEdge if you fly in the Los Angeles ARTCC area.

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VoxATC is the most realistic ATC you can get. You're talking to it via your microphone. It knows of SID and STARS.

 

You can download from their website and try it out for free in seven days.

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PilotEdge requires a monthly subscription which is totally bogus since you can fly with ATC on VATSIM/IVAO for free.

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PilotEdge requires a monthly subscription which is totally bogus since you can fly with ATC on VATSIM/IVAO for free.

 

 

Okay, but in VATSIM or IVAO you don't always get a high-quality ATC experience that is fully staffed from delivery to center.

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Okay, but in VATSIM or IVAO you don't always get a high-quality ATC experience that is fully staffed from delivery to center.

 

No but then again in this economy its hard to argue against free and for many of the younger pilots $180 is very steep. Plus there are some that want some ATC but not every single position staffed, I love it when approach helps me into an unfamiliar airport but at the same time I love it when he gives me taxi instructions that are basically pilot's discretion which means I can take my favorite route to my usual terminal.

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Okay, but in VATSIM or IVAO you don't always get a high-quality ATC experience that is fully staffed from delivery to center.

 

Check out the events that are posted on the vatsim calendar, a lot of them have almost full coverage at the departing and arrival airports.

Plus, I'm not paying a monthly fee for just one ARTCC to have ATC, that's absurd.

 

For $180 per year I would expect to have full US coverage. Their prices are too high.

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Yeah I know, I wish there would be more events where I live and like to fly, KIAH and KHOU. Hopefully I will be able to participate in Cross the Pond next year with the 777!!

 

I see what you're saying. They said that they will do more ARTCCs; I think Oakland ARTCC is next in line.

 

Did you get a NOTAM (email) from VATSIM asking for you to vote for the platform for the new pilot client?!? :yahoo: Goodbye $h!tbox and FScrapINN!

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I just hope the new client will be just as light as SB, I don't want too many bells and whistles.

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I hope the new client will also be able to be networked on a separate computer, and also support dynamic lighting like FSINN does.

Lastly....PLEASE let us set the transponder to C mode with a keypress/joystick button! Please!!! (wrong forum but I still want to say it out loud for the FS gods to hear).

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Lastly....PLEASE let us set the transponder to C mode with a keypress/joystick button! Please!!! (wrong forum but I still want to say it out loud for the FS gods to hear).

 

You can with FSInn. FSFDT Control panel, Key Management. You can set pretty much any function to a keypress.

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You can with FSInn. FSFDT Control panel, Key Management. You can set pretty much any function to a keypress.

 

I meant the actual C mode on FSINN itself, not in the FSX plane I'm flying.

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I meant the actual C mode on FSINN itself, not in the FSX plane I'm flying.

 

Yes, that's what I meant as well! I have a keypress set to toggle between C, I and S in FSInn itself, not the a/c.

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I meant the actual C mode on FSINN itself, not in the FSX plane I'm flying.

 

Sorry mate, I pointed you to the wrong screen to set this up! Go to the Addons drop down in FSX, then to the FSCopilot dropdown menu and select Settings. There's a screen there which lists all the FSInn functions and allows you to assign a hotkey to them. Apologies for the misdirection!

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Sorry mate, I pointed you to the wrong screen to set this up! Go to the Addons drop down in FSX, then to the FSCopilot dropdown menu and select Settings. There's a screen there which lists all the FSInn functions and allows you to assign a hotkey to them. Apologies for the misdirection!

 

 

If this actually works for me I would hug you in real life.

I've been trying to get this to work for years.

 

Thanks for the tip! I'll have a look today.

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If this actually works for me I would hug you in real life.

 

No hugs required, Her Majesty encourages us to be nice to Canucks and then she gives us knighthoods and castles and stuff. Btw, yes it DOES work! Any problems just yell (and I'll probably get another castle).

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No hugs required, Her Majesty encourages us to be nice to Canucks and then she gives us knighthoods and castles and stuff. Btw, yes it DOES work! Any problems just yell (and I'll probably get another castle).

 

lol

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Mikethe6th,

 

Did you get your question answered? I came here to this formum to ask the same questions you had. It's tuff knowing where to begin with so many options out there. Is it correct that vatsim doesn't work with fs9?

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Is it correct that vatsim doesn't work with fs9?

 

No that's not correct. It works perfectly well.

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My answer also will be slightly off..., but you can use a programm, called Vroute (vroute.net) to book the flight in VATSIM. And if you do so - chances to get ATCs there is much higher.

If you plan some longer flight or you do the planning few days before, you can drop some line to the corresponding vACC staff and they might want to help you in this need. ;)

Yes, not every ATC in these networks are pro, but dont expect them to be!

 

To be honest - I find ANY "ATC software" million miles away from realism..., just my own thoughts.

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Yeah I know, I wish there would be more events where I live and like to fly, KIAH and KHOU. Hopefully I will be able to participate in Cross the Pond next year with the 777!!

 

I see what you're saying. They said that they will do more ARTCCs; I think Oakland ARTCC is next in line.

 

Did you get a NOTAM (email) from VATSIM asking for you to vote for the platform for the new pilot client?!? :yahoo: Goodbye $h!tbox and FScrapINN!

 

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with FSInn. The GUI takes some getting used to and it is a bit of a quirky application, but overall it's done very well. For a start, I get next to no FPS hit with FSInn, compared to a rather hefty hit when using SB4 (and no I'm not running it in FSX, but externally). FSInn also handles AI aircraft very well provided you know how to set it up to take advantage of AI packages (which if they're already installed, is a 15 minute job). FSInn does a much better job at presenting the AI and the algorithms used for turning on the strobes, extending flaps and gear is clever enough to add immersion over Squawkbox. I used to use FSInn back when it came out, my only issue with it being I could never get it configured for AI properly - so went back to SB3/SB4. However, more recently, there are guides and additional applications which optimise how FSInn picks AI and, the way I've got it set-up, it runs as perfectly as SB4. By that I mean when someone is flying an odd combination, like a British Airways MD-11, FSInn will display an MD-11 in a random paint - much like SB4 shows the VIP MD-11. In normal situations it displays aircraft flawlessly for me.

 

For what it's worth, don't expect VATSIM's client to blow either SB4 or FSInn out of the water, much as I'd love a new client to do so.

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You need to remember about time zones. Not sure why you would expect Heathrow to be online at 0300! Although someone might be if they can't sleep which I doubt.

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