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Car traffic causing graphic glitches

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Only in DX10 and, similar to the light issue, only at certain angles, usually at ground level in airports. Turning off car traffic gets rid of this or run in DX9 of course.

 

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It does, doesn't it!! Don't worry - it's fixable.

 

What are your 1). BufferPool, 2). Water, and 3). TBM, (and road traffic) settings, Bumpy?


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This is what I've been playing with.

 

[bufferPools]

Poolsize=0

//PoolSize=20971520

//RejectThreshold=131072

 

[TERRAIN]

AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5

DETAIL_TEXTURE=1

LOD_RADIUS=4.500000

MESH_COMPLEXITY=100

MESH_RESOLUTION=25

SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2

TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29

WATER_EFFECTS=6

 

[sCENERY]

ShowMissingTextureAlert=1

DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1

IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5

LENSFLARE=1

MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3

//SmallPartRejectRadius=4.0

 

 

[JOBSCHEDULER]

AffinityMask=14

 

[DISPLAY]

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=78

TextureMaxLoad=12

TransitionTime=4.000000

UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0

WideViewAspect=True

 

[TrafficManager]

AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=5

AirlineDensity=100

FreewayDensity=100

GADensity=100

IFROnly=0

LeisureBoatsDensity=100

ShipsAndFerriesDensity=100

Hi Bumpy; You have some wicked settings there!!! Holy Jumpin'!!

 

Cars.. All day today, on all sizes of BufferPools and TBM's. When you push maximum on almost everything (compred to DX9) - and you can - you cannot include too much in the way of road traffic.. cars are a killer..... I haven't had time to look at water traffic.

 

The latest "How-To" has been modified to reflect Jim's suggestions, based on his own separate tests.


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MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3 That's the first time I've ever seen that tweak. According to Google, you should have it if you're seeing spikes on the ground and/or black screens. It may or may not get rid of them. A setting of 4 is the max.

 

I've always said cars are a FR killer. That setting should be no higher than 10 as it will provide enough vehicles to give you the feeling of traffic on the ground. Microsoft Aces Team said leisure boats, ships and ferries are FR killers too. Those settings are definitely way too high. You should realize that FSX loads every leisure boat, ship and ferry worldwide so, when you have it at 100%, like Yikes! I have mine turned off but the concensus I've seen is nothing higher than 10.

 

I don't see any Graphics settings. I suspect the TML is 4096 which is okay for powerful systems.

 

Like Paul told me back a week or two ago when I was trying to get rid of this little black blobs in the water, I changed that setting from 6 to 5 and the black thingys over the water are gone. As I recall when FSX was first released, the ACES team told us to set that setting to 6 and not the max as the max was a FR killer as well as lower settings. As I recall they said it was a bug. I guess I can spend some time and find that but don't have time right now.

 

That's my observations. I finally had a chance to run FSX this evening and did a flight from FSDT KORD to KSTL. As I have mentioned before I had reset my fsx.cfg to basically the default with no tweaks. I was flying the PMDG737NGX in real weather (the skies were clear). FPS are limited to 25 as that worked well around payware Vancouver (which is a known FR killer). At Chicago I was getting I was getting between 6.5 - 14 fps. Not good, not good at all. But, after takeoff, fps went back up to a steady 24.9, even upon landing at KSTL where I have some real photo scenery plus a freeware airport addon (I opted not to get the payware). So I don't know what I'm going to do but whatever it is, it will be slow. I think my problem now is the Nvidia Inspector settings, especially the Vsync. I can easily test different settings on the ground while changing settings on my other monitor. If I find the holy grail, you will be advised.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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Here's my current settings - quite a difference from the hours and hours of trying, testing BufferePools, TBM, and all the other fiddly bits.

 

This one is default, made by the sim, with the AA and AF ticked, fps still at 30, FFTF at 0.1, HIGHMEMFIX, Bloom ON, GA at 43, road at 10, everything else is stock. Still get 29.9 - 30 most areas of PNW, and it's still acceptable - above 24 - at Vancouver and Seattle.

 

MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3 That's the first time I've ever seen that tweak. According to Google, you should have it if you're seeing spikes on the ground and/or black screens. It may or may not get rid of them. A setting of 4 is the max.
Jim - I'd forgotten this one: it's in most of my other configs, but not in the last half-dozen.....more testing...


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This one is default, made by the sim

 

Thanks Paul. I will try that config (after I save my current one). I'm going to try a lower resolution on my monitor instead of the native. When I rebuilt my fsx.cfg, Microsoft gave me the same screen resolution as yours. Not liking to be inferior (LOL), I changed it to the 2560x1600 (for 30 inch monitors). Thanks Paul for your help! I just hope I have enough time to test this. Trying to help others with their issues in several different forums.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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You two guys are a hoot. I assume you are both messing with settings to see how to rid of this car traffic graphic glitching? You guys must really like tweaking this stuff, which is very kind. I've been avoiding the certain cameras and angles for now cause my real life stuff doesn't afford much time to search for a fix.

Yaah: - That Jim-guy's quite crazy, Bump!... He lives and breathes to tweak! He's even rigged up his coffee machine with a BufferPool setting! He has a specially made, giant-sized toaster that produces mega-bytes.....


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He's even rigged up his coffee machine with a BufferPool setting!

 

Paul, I can't believe you're telling everyone my secrets for life! I told you to keep that hush-hush! In any case, I have not seen the issues Bumpy has the cars (but my DX10 FSX time has really been limited). It looks like a lot of textures are missing. It could be a FS9 airport vehicle from a FS9 program. Perhaps if we knew where this occurs we could try to duplicate? I think the Addon Converter should fix it during the flight. I'm still lacking time to test anything. Golf every morning then grocery shopping, laundry, cleaning house, then pm nap, then trying to Amend my 2011 tax return, then watching forums and researching problems, leaves me little time to git er done!

 

Best regards,

Jim

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If you crank up the cars she will artifact, Jim. I have to test whether it will do the same with ships, etc, but to tell the truth - after I had fsx running on the "minimalist" DX10 yesterday, I piled on the bufferpools again, and it does become smoother, and will accept a greater load. with 20 cars, AI, and GA, I can move the fps to 40 and it will artifact. I can load it so that it will artifact at 32. .

I've left it alone for half of the day - domestic stuff - but will be back at it tomorrow. I've posted new (new??) and changed (more like it) info in the how-to.

Y'know - I think one can get a pretty good DX10 experience on an almost basic FSX+DX10 preview!

 

Cheers,

 

pj


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If you crank up the cars she will artifact, Jim.

 

I have set my cars to 100% and have gone all around the vehicles several times and I cannot duplicate this. My fsx.cfg has no tweaks whatsoever. FR hangs around 23-24 when limited at 25. Strange indeed! On another note, I have never had my cars at 100% and I saw no frame rate hit. Saw lots of cars on the San Francisco freeways though! I will continue to look.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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I have set my cars to 100% and have gone all around the vehicles several times and I cannot duplicate this. My fsx.cfg has no tweaks whatsoever. FR hangs around 23-24 when limited at 25. Strange indeed! On another note, I have never had my cars at 100% and I saw no frame rate hit. Saw lots of cars on the San Francisco freeways though! I will continue to look.

 

Best regards,

Jim

 

Did you try views similar to my above 2 pics? Flying around I get no artifacts, its pretty much when I'm on the ground and top down view at certain zoom out settings.

Did you try views similar to my above 2 pics?

 

Okay, yes I got out on the LA Freeway and definitely saw it. In some views the sky turned black with white clouds. Don't know why I didn't see that earlier as it is easy to create in the mist of vehicles. I don't think that can be fixed but it's not going to keep me away from DX10. Maybe PJ can find a tweak though.

 

Best regards,

Jim

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