I'm a current Traffic X user and was "thinking" moving to a "next" version but not necessarily Traffic X folks ... I gotta admit, I was stuck with Traffic X for a few months until they patched the product that fixed A LOT of issues ... as I recall, getting the patch was not easy.

 

I like the idea of AirNav 3 with "live" traffic, but at $106 for 6 month subscription ... hmmm ... it will need to be really good. I'm guessing Ultimate Traffic 2 is about due an update to Ultimate Traffic 3??

 

Anyway, would like to hear from you folks what you think of these 4 titles and/or any others.

 

Thanks, Rob.

Just search the forum for the word traffic and you will probably find that the majority of the posts on this forum discuss all the available traffic products for flight simulator, the subject comes up on a weekly basis if not more often.

I have used JF Traffic X, and Ultimate Traffic 2 ..

 

As far as I am concerned .. AI traffic is AI traffic... If you fly to mostly airports with GA, they buy the one with better GA traffic .. otherwise just go for the best bang for the buck..

Hi,

 

for what it is worth - I own Ultimate Traffic II.

Not too happy with it and i returned to my old AI solution.

 

Problems I had:

The list of Airlines is not complete - and after buying a schedule update - no new airlines are added. E.g. Ryanair is missing. Or FedEx and UPS. I understand that the developers have no access to all of the schedules - but there are a lot of Airlines missing.

Also - a lot of liveries are missing and replaced with a generic one. Could understand it for some fancy airlines, but also some regional traffic from big US airlines has generic liveries. Adding new liveries usually means also to add new models of the planes, since there are not that many liveries for download for the native UT2 models.

Another problem i had was that traffic injection system in use. I want dense traffic at Airports. EDDF is always full. But when a plane is about to take of - its gate is taking immediately by a new plane popping out of thin air. I actually had problems finding empty gates. One could decrease the amount of traffic, but i was not happy with that.

I spend a lot of time adding/replacing liveries and airlines, but i had problems with damaging the database all the time and getting a back-up to work... well it did not work for me.

Also - the Airline ICAO code is sometimes not correct. E.g. Lufthansa Gargo (ICAO GEC) is designated DLH. So on your airports with gate assignments, you end up with some mess, especially airlines with a cargo subsidiary. You can fix that, but it needs tweaking.

I regularly experienced the traffic disappearing on long-haul flights. I was wondering why i stopped seeing other planes, but then i land on empty airports (LAX!). That happened like 8 out of 10 flights on different airports.

When you add your own airlines - that is some work. An awful lot of Info is needed, like airline, operator, country, Airline codes,...., one has to assing liveries/planes, a lot of airports are missing in the database and they have to be assigned too when importing flight schedules...

 

What i liked:

Regular updates (once a year?)

Flight schedules include airways! That is a really cool feature!

Nice export feature of the database - showing installed airlines, aircraft, liveries... (but is also kind of scary - one actually sees how many liveries are missing...)

 

Now - I understand that a lot of people are very happy with the product and this here is just my personal experience. I just want to point out the problems i had with the product.

 

Nico

Jim/Nico,

 

Thanks for the input, appreciate it. I remember many years ago (before FSX) there was a product that would do "live" (actually a 15 minute delay) Traffic but it was not a subscription and wasn't as expensive as AirNav 3.

 

Anyone know much about AirNav 3?

ohhh, watching with interest, as I was getting the impression a lot of VATSim users are using UT2?

I have it on my radar for later purchase when I get everything else how I want it...